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XL 09-28-2010 05:44 AM

Very classy of you TSO. As it stands there isn't too much interest in booking (but I haven't sought out interest beyond this thread yet) so you may get a slot by default.

I'd like to give preference to those that have supported the game through S1 if possible. There were a lot of people that showed interest but then drifted away after they weren't picked to participate directly. Judges that failed to turn in rankings might also fall victim to unpreferential treatment. But that's all pretty moot until we see how much interest there is.

I am looking to have S1 finished off by the end of the week. So we need those rankings in from the judges. :y:

XL 09-28-2010 05:51 AM

Vito, my thoughts were along the lines of option 2. TNA & WWE rosters plus the handful of talents that people may want to use (Batista, Haas, Daniels, etc).

Paul Heyman 09-28-2010 06:32 AM

Option two is probably best then. Gives the most scope for having good wide rosters and using people that may not be a part of TNA/WWE but, should be!

Looking forward to season 2!

I'll be involved in any way, but would love to book :)

BizarroKing 09-28-2010 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Vito 22 (Post 3261430)
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So I'd say one of these (NOT both):

Idea 1: The entire WWE, TNA, and ROH rosters as of the day of the draft are eligible.

Idea 2: The entire WWE and TNA rosters as of the day of the draft are eligible, as are anybody who was future endeavor'd by either company during 2010. This will allow some extra flexibility and guys could utilize Batista, Haas, Benjamin, Carlito, Hurricane, Knox, and whoever the fuck else.</font>

So for option 2, only TNA and WWE people that were employed in 2010. No ROH people except for Homicide or Daniels?

Evil Vito 09-28-2010 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BizarroKing (Post 3261944)
So for option 2, only TNA and WWE people that were employed in 2010. No ROH people except for Homicide or Daniels?

<font color=goldenrod>Precisely. It gives extra people for use without completely overcrowding the pool.</font>

screech 09-28-2010 11:36 AM

Definitely regret not being able to post in these threads, but I was much busier than I thought I'd be when this started. Loved being a judge, though and reading all of these shows.

Bookers should be commended for jobs very well done :y:

XL 09-28-2010 12:15 PM

Just thought, what do we do with the guys from NXT that are now no longer "on the roster"? I'd like to include them again personally but would they get picked up?

XL 09-28-2010 04:17 PM

One thing I won't be doing is making the drafted rosters public.

Aside from the Mystery Man reveal that was "ruined" I think the first shows will read better if you don't know who's about to appear. I think my opening segment to Show 1 would have had more impact if you read it and didn't know Hogan was in there (OK, you didn't know that he was) and then HHH came out, then Orton, then Anderson. I think that could have evoked a "Holy shit, VCW has some top guys on their roster" response and given that opening more "oompf".

BizarroKing 09-28-2010 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XL (Post 3262042)
Just thought, what do we do with the guys from NXT that are now no longer "on the roster"? I'd like to include them again personally but would they get picked up?

I would say make them ok, but that's just me.

XL 09-29-2010 11:50 AM

In what could be considered quite the coup for Armchair Warfare, TPWW's "Unofficial Best Booker" Noid has thrown his name into the hat for Season 2.

Looks like this shit just got serious :shifty:

VSG 09-29-2010 11:54 AM

Oh shit!

Swiss Ultimate 09-29-2010 12:45 PM

So I can't judge?

Also, where are the judges?

Lock Jaw 09-29-2010 01:40 PM

We have received 5 judgments.

Swiss Ultimate 09-29-2010 02:44 PM

Really????

BizarroKing 09-29-2010 02:51 PM

Where do we sign up anyway? Did we put in a new section for it?

Swiss Ultimate 09-29-2010 02:57 PM

I only noticed two show reviews.

Lock Jaw 09-29-2010 03:07 PM

I mean we have received five of the rankings from the judges in the social group.

XL 09-29-2010 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BizarroKing (Post 3263713)
Where do we sign up anyway? Did we put in a new section for it?

Preliminary sign-ups are in this thread but I will start an 'Official Season 2 Sign Up' thread once we are done here.

The poll closes Friday I think. I'll send another PM to the S1 judges tonight to see if we can get those last 5 rankings in. Then I'll post the results here and we can focus on Season 2.

XL 09-29-2010 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeathtotheSwiss (Post 3263588)
So I can't judge?

Also, where are the judges?

Why not? I asked if S1 bookers wanted to be S2 judges about 8 posts ago...

Swiss Ultimate 09-29-2010 07:18 PM

I do.

XL 09-30-2010 06:50 PM

Few updates:

- I PM'd Jeritron to see if we could get a 'Spoilers Style' version of the LAW PPV but I haven't had a response. He must have done one as AbT offered it up to be "fleshed out". *shrugs*

- We are up to 7 interested bookers (Noid, Jabba, Kapoutman, Lock Jaw, BizarroKing, The Show Off, Paul Heyman).

- Poll closes tomorrow!!

The Show Off 09-30-2010 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XL (Post 3265412)
Few updates:

- I PM'd Jeritron to see if we could get a 'Spoilers Style' version of the LAW PPV but I haven't had a response. He must have done one as AbT offered it up to be "fleshed out". *shrugs*

- We are up to 7 interested bookers (Noid, Jabba, Kapoutman, Lock Jaw, BizarroKing, The Show Off, Paul Heyman).

- Poll closes tomorrow!!

Anyone of those posters would make for some stiff compitition.

XL 09-30-2010 08:17 PM

Figured I'd talk you through the genesis of VCW...

This was the first 20 guys I tried to draft: Triple H, Chris Jericho, Kurt Angle, Randy Orton, Mr. Anderson, CM Punk, Cody Rhodes, Goldust, Christian, Jack Swagger, Kaval, Ted Dibiase, Michael McGillicutty, Husky Harris, Robert Roode, John Morrison, AJ Styles , Jay Lethal, D’Angelo Dinero, Kane, Sting, Alex Shelley & Chris Sabin, Jeff Hardy, Rob Van Dam, Matt Morgan, Eric Young, Mick Foley.

I like wrestling when the lines between fiction and reality are blurred (think Matt Hardy/Edge) and that's the feel I was looking to go for. When drafting my roster I tried to pick up people who had ready made angles to work: HHH/Orton/Anderson, Cody/Goldust, Angle/Swagger, etc.

I was looking to book it as a continuation of WWE but that idea was nixed.

My original title picture would have been Chritian going over Jericho. Whilst there would be a 3 way fued with HHH, Orton and Anderson, who - on his return to "WWE" would target HHH and Orton for costing him his job. I'd have also continued the Taker/Kane storyline with Kane being targeted my the "Mind Games" (lights going out) only to reveal Sting at the PPV (who would have exposed Kane as the culprit for the attack on Taker).

But I didn't get Chrisitan, Jericho or Kane. Leaving the title to Anderson v Orton and Sting at a lose end. That was until Lock Jaw suggested that Sting could face off against a WWE stalwart - and HHH v Sting was born from that concept.

In terms of ideas that title fued was the one I put least thought into. Whilst I had other fueds planned week-to-week, my World Title fued was booked on the fly. Somehow it came off pretty well.

Once again the Championship Chase was an idea that I hung people on to. I had a section of my draft board just dedicated to good inring workers (Morrison, Styles, Hardy, RVD, Lethal, etc) it didn't really matter who I got as long as they were decent. As it happens, I got Kaval, R-Truth, Young, Suicide and I then picked up Moore and Henry from the Free Agents to complete the 6 (Matt Morgan was my first choice to be the big man amongst the little guys). Kaval got the nod for the win. I would have booked Kaval v Punk if I had got him.

The storyline for the Tag Titles was something I had planned from the beginning but the teams I got were pretty lackluster. Dunno how it would have come off with say MCMG in place of The Usos and whichever guys weren't in the Championship Chase.

I originally had an idea for McGillicutty with Ted DiBiasem, Robert Roode and Husky Harris based around names. Ted would say that McG/Harris couldn't use their fathers' names cos he didn't deserve to, where as Roode had to steal his (from Rick Rude). Roode would align with DiBiase (Money Inc. 2.0) and the 2 pairs would face off.

I much prefer McG becoming Joe Perfect and targetting the broken Hogan and going over in such conclusive fashion.

Cody v Goldust went down as planned.

So, VCW #1 would have seen:

World Title - Christian v Jericho
Triple Threat - HHH v Orton v Anderson
Submission Match - Swagger v Angle
Kaval v Punk
Tag Titles - MCMG v Pope/Truth
Tag Match - McGillicutty/Harris v DiBiase/Roode
Morrison v Styles
IN Title - RVD v Hardy


I was also gonna have a women's fued, but outside of having them get naked/do a full on sex scene (cheap tactics basically) I couldn't think of a stroyline for them. I traded Mayrse and Kelly Kelly (who I brought back as a backstage interviewer).

Most of what I have ended it up with just seemed to fall into place. I wanted a figure head that hadn't already been in the role, that ruled out Foley, Flair, etc. I ended up opting for Michael Cole. That gave me a name and some strong strands (The "fairness" line playing into The Usos/Dudleys fued and the Cole turn when Danielson was revealed). Then I picked up Hogan as a commentator and the idea of the McGillicutty/Perfect fued came to me.

All in all, I think I did pretty well out of a "weak" roster.

Paul Heyman 10-01-2010 06:56 AM

Sounds like season 2 could be fantastic!

I'm looking forward to getting involved hopefully! Been planning some storylines/angles/talent all ready, in the hope that I get to book this time around.

You might be pleasantly surprised :D Especially with the great variety of potential bookers, the scope for some great stories/different perspectives is huge!

XL 10-01-2010 07:19 AM

I'd like to see someone book an interesting women's fued as it wasn't done in S1 and I couldn't come up with anything.

The Show Off 10-01-2010 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XL (Post 3266060)
I'd like to see someone book an interesting women's fued as it wasn't done in S1 and I couldn't come up with anything.

I was building a Nattie Neidhart/Michelle McCool program but alas that would have taken place at the second PPV.

BizarroKing 10-01-2010 02:06 PM

At my count we have 7 judges voted so far. Dunno if you want to wait for the rest or not since all the judges didn't vote in the 4th week so it's unknown if they will here...

Lock Jaw 10-01-2010 02:41 PM

Schlomey voted in the public poll and didn't turn in his judgements for the past few weeks.

So we're missing CSL (who didn't do it for week four) and James Steele I think.

XL 10-01-2010 02:44 PM

Steele pm'd me his, so we have 8 (same as last week).

If one of you guys sends me all the rankings from the group, I'll do the math and get this thing finished off tonight.

VSG 10-01-2010 03:08 PM

PM'ed you the rankings of the 7 judges in there.

Lock Jaw 10-01-2010 03:09 PM

I did it first. :mad:

(maybe)

(probably not)

VSG 10-01-2010 03:12 PM

The Locked Jaw was probably earlier than my open jaw (I was eating grapes while sending the PM).

XL 10-01-2010 05:23 PM

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08:08 PM VSG

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LOL. Same time fellas. Thank you.

One of you said something about the Star Power Rankings, they didn't need to be done this time around. From what I gather, Week 4's vote was the only important one. The Top 5 there would gain extra points if used on the PPV (why wouldn't they be?).

The question in brackets made me put the "Double Points If They Win" Rule in.

Just totalling it all up now....

Lock Jaw 10-01-2010 05:31 PM

Well played, VSG. Well played.

VSG 10-01-2010 06:03 PM

You beat me by mere seconds. Enjoy this victory, Lock Jaw, while it lasts. :shifty:

VSG 10-01-2010 06:03 PM

Also, where are you from, XL? That's an interesting time difference.

XL 10-01-2010 06:15 PM

So, it's (finally) all said and done. The Public Poll is closed and the votes from the 8 Judges that bothered to see it through to the end have been calculated.

Remember, PPV scores count double and the Star Power Ranking bonuses come into effect. So, here it is...


FINAL RANKINGS


4TH

http://www.tpww.net/forums/picture.p...pictureid=1416

TIW Back To Basics received 5 Third Place votes, a Second Place and a 4th which is pretty good going considering how awkward it must have been for The Show Off to jump in at Week 3 (TIW's highest scoring week) and redirect the booking. Samoa Joe came in at 4th in the Star Power Rankings and picked up the victory to double the bonus points.

POINTS BREAKDOWN

*Week One Score = 22 PTS
*Week Two Score = 15 PTS
*Week Three Score = 26 PTS
*Week Four Score = 17 PTS
*PPV Round Score = 46 PTS

+ #4 Star Rank (2 pts) + Win Bonus (2 pts) =

130 POINTS



3RD

http://www.tpww.net/forums/picture.p...pictureid=1415
Dead Wrong Wrestling's SummerBANG '10 received 2 Second Place rankings and 6 Fourth Places, which proved to be DWW's worst week of the competition points wise. Rhino was ranked 3rd in the Star Power Rankings but walked away from the PPV without the win.

POINTS BREAKDOWN

*Week One Score = 27 PTS
*Week Two Score = 29 PTS
*Week Three Score = 31 PTS
*Week Four Score = 28 PTS
*PPV Round Score = 40 PTS

+ #3 Star Rank (3 pts) =

158 POINTS



2ND

http://www.tpww.net/forums/picture.p...pictureid=1417

SCW has been ranked 2nd throughout the entire competition and once again picked up the Runners-Up spot in the PPV Round with 1 ranking of First, 5 Second Places and a couple of Third Places. CM Punk was ranked 5th in the Star Power Rankings and - although not winning it - he did walk away with the World Title.

POINTS BREAKDOWN

*Week One Score = 40 PTS
*Week Two Score = 35 PTS
*Week Three Score = 27 PTS
*Week Four Score = 23 PTS
*PPV Round Score = 62 PTS

+ #5 Star Rank (1 pts) + "Win" Bonus (1 pts) =

189 POINTS



1ST

http://www.tpww.net/forums/picture.p...pictureid=1419

Once again VCW came out on top to take a clean sweep of the competition with all but 1 of the Judge's First Place rankings and 1 Third Place. VCW also romped home in the Public Poll to complete a clean sweep there and take the bonus points. On top of that Mr Anderson was ranked 1st in the Star Power Rankings and picked up the win, whilst HHH was ranked 2nd but wasn't booked to take the victory at the PPV.

POINTS BREAKDOWN

*Week One Score = 46 PTS (Public Poll Bonus)
*Week Two Score = 52 PTS (Public Poll Bonus)
*Week Three Score = 45 PTS (Public Poll Bonus)
*Week Four Score = 41 PTS (Public Poll Bonus)
*PPV Round Score = 81 PTS (Public Poll Bonus)

+ #1 Star Rank (5 pts) + Win Bonus (5 pts) + #2 Star Rank (4 pts) =

284 POINTS

XL 10-01-2010 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VSG (Post 3266710)
Also, where are you from, XL? That's an interesting time difference.

England.

VSG 10-01-2010 06:26 PM

I had my time difference a little off. I had you in the Irish sea :shifty:

Lock Jaw 10-01-2010 06:27 PM

I think next round can do without this whole Star Power thing. Not really feeling it as it is. It makes a pretty negligible difference. Plus not to mention the bookers can easily just book themselves in to get the extra points from their stars winning, even if that is not what they intended. Like I said, though, the points are negligible so doesn't really matter.

XL 10-01-2010 06:32 PM

Yeah, I wasn't sure how AbT was gonna run the points for SPR but that's what I came up with. I wouldn't do "Win Bonuses" on S2 for that very reason - it might restrict what the booker wants to do cos they choose to favour getting the points.

Paul Heyman 10-02-2010 05:56 AM

I don't think there should be win bonuses, or other bonuses for using certain people. The competition is about effective booking, regardless of who is involved. The inclusion of bonuses makes bookers consider booking winners/loser they might have used better.

XL 10-02-2010 07:30 AM

Ah, but the Star Power Rankings themselves are all about "effective booking". And let's face it, if you have a guy that's in the Top 5, you're not likely to hold him off the PPV are you?

The "Win Bonus" was something I added after I knew the PPVs had been written and so wouldn't effect the results. And I've already said I'm gonna drop the "Win Bonus" aspect. Might keep the Star Power Rankings though but make them a weekly bonus thing rather than just at the PPV.

BizarroKing 10-02-2010 10:01 AM

congrats to VCW! So now do we set the stage for S2?

XL 10-02-2010 10:46 AM

Well, first I wanna know what I win!?

VSG 10-02-2010 10:52 AM

Bragging Rights, right in time for the WWE PPV too. But I also remember the promise of 5k rep, let me look it up.

XL 10-02-2010 11:07 AM

Yeah, TPWW's "Offical Best Booker". Eat that Noid :p

VSG 10-02-2010 11:08 AM

Defend your title against the best of TPWW next season, and then come back.

XL 10-02-2010 11:11 AM

A "Book Off". Interesting.

XL 10-02-2010 11:11 AM

Anyway, I'll start a "S2 Sign Up" thread soon.


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