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Triple Naitch 01-13-2012 02:47 AM

I don't really see the draw of Savage for the HOF posthumously. Edge is going to be the guy this year because they can work with him. He will have his speech, wwe.com interviews, show up on Raw, etc. They can't do that with Macho. I can still see him getting inducted this year.

Autobahn 01-13-2012 08:18 AM

I really want to see Paul Bearer inducted.

whiteyford 01-13-2012 08:24 AM

He'll go in with the Undertaker,makes sense that way at least.

erickman 01-13-2012 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smelly Meatball (Post 3731351)
Well obviously not in terms of making a speech considering he's passed away but in terms of naming power, he would probably be the headliner unless the WWE would have decided to use up 2 big names like The Rock or if they manage to get Flair to speak again for the Four Horsemen.

Then again, a long tribute video about the Macho Man could be as good as a speech to close out the show.

yep flair and rock will be the big ones this year, macho maby next year after vince sets the story streight, with a dvd. the flair drama should be made into a good story line i want abyss to show up.

#1-norm-fan 01-13-2012 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by erickman (Post 3731747)
yep flair and rock will be the big ones this year, macho maby next year after vince sets the story streight, with a dvd. the flair drama should be made into a good story line i want abyss to show up.

I doubt Rock is going in now that they've announced Edge.

erickman 01-13-2012 12:26 PM

i thought rock going in this year was a giving thats why the year long fued with cena. edge was a good wrestler but he was 2nd rate to the likes of rock

#1-norm-fan 01-13-2012 12:40 PM

Which is why I think it's a good idea to get him in now. Like someone else said, there's only so many top tier guys right now that you can headline a Hall of Fame ceremony with. You gotta stretch it out. Edge going in while he's still fresh in people's minds gives you one this year, you can save Rock for next year, Taker the year after, maybe Vince after that...

Edge as a headliner next year, or even worse, two years from now, wouldn't have the same effect. Rock can go in any year and be a huge deal.

St. Jimmy 01-13-2012 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSL (Post 3731357)
of course, not like Edge is fresh off retirement/beloved/still fresh in people's minds/over/worthy of the spot or anything like that, if he goes in before a guy who clearly had something "getting in the way" of a relationship with WWE and is now dead to boot, it's fucking stupid

Prove to me that Edge is a bigger draw than Savage. GFL.

Lock Jaw 01-13-2012 04:50 PM

Don't know how that is even in question. Of course Edge is a bigger draw than Savage.

Nicky Fives 01-13-2012 05:00 PM

I'd love to see Yokozuna inducted......Would be awesome for one of his closest friends (Undertaker) to induct him, but I doubt we would see that.....

#1-norm-fan 01-13-2012 05:10 PM

He'll get inducted by Yoshi Tatsu on account of the slant-eye brotherhood.

Triple Naitch 01-13-2012 05:21 PM

Dunno. If you said Edge and Savage would each be wrestling, I'm sure more people would show up to see a zombie Macho Man.

Corndad 01-13-2012 05:28 PM

Be a cool moment for Yoko's family to be involved. Isn't he involved with the Rock's family somehow?

Triple Naitch 01-13-2012 10:21 PM

They're cousins.

Rammsteinmad 01-14-2012 02:19 PM

Christian needs to induct Edge and do his 'one more match' thing during his speech. :D

Xero 01-14-2012 02:21 PM

Christian is obviously going to induct Edge.

Wonder who will induct the Horsemen? Dusty?

CSL 01-14-2012 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by St. Jimmy (Post 3732137)
Prove to me that Edge is a bigger draw than Savage. GFL.

I don't recall claiming he was sweetheart. By that brilliant logic, every induction before Hogan and Austin was "fucking stupid" and everybody else that goes in before Rock and Bruno are also probably quite "fucking stupid".

CSL 01-15-2012 03:13 PM

The greatest unit in the modern era of professional wrestling is being inducted into the WWE Hall of Fame.
And one of its members, arguably the greatest performer of our time, is returning for an encore.
While last week’s announcement of Ric Flair and The Four Horsemen’s impending induction into the WWE Hall of Fame didn’t exactly come out of the blue, it did come as a big surprise to the 16-time world heavyweight champion.
After all, it was less than four years ago when Flair was enshrined in an emotional and memorable ceremony in Orlando, one night before his final WWE match with Shawn Michaels. On March 31, the Nature Boy will walk the aisle once more, but this time in Miami, becoming the first wrestler in WWE history to be honored twice.
http://postandcourier.media.clients....30eb3e6a451be5

Thirteen-time world champion Triple H (Paul Levesque) broke the news to his longtime friend prior to the announcement on Monday Night Raw. Flair was at TNA tapings in Orlando when he received the call.
“It’s amazing. It’s very cool. The whole TNA crew was watching the vignette. I started crying when they aired it,” said Flair.
The longtime Charlotte resident, who “retired” from WWE in 2008, has worked for TNA since January 2010. His selection marks the first time a performer under contract with a rival promotion has been inducted into the WWE Hall.
All four members of The Horsemen — Flair, Arn Anderson, Tully Blanchard and Barry Windham, along with manager J.J. Dillon — are expected to attend the ceremony.
Windham’s appearance will be a special one, as he survived a close call several months ago after suffering a heart attack and a seizure. But the eldest son of WWE Hall of Famer Blackjack Mulligan (Bob Windham) is making slow but marked progress, and is expected to be released from a Florida rehabilitation center within the next couple of weeks.
Flair, who turns 63 in February, joked that his Hall of Fame speech will be limited this time around.
“They told me I could only talk seven minutes,” said Flair, whose impassioned acceptance speech in 2008 lasted well over an hour, with Triple H making several trips to the podium to rush Flair due to network time constraints.
Flair, who attended last year’s WWE ceremony in Atlanta to see Michaels’ induction, says he is eagerly looking forward to the event and reuniting with his former stablemates.
“We’re going to blow the roof off,” he said.
Edge (Adam Copeland), who was forced to retire last year due to a neck injury, also was announced last week as a Hall of Fame selection, becoming the youngest inductee in history at age 39. The selection of Mexican superstar Mil Mascaras was announced last year. It has been reported that the late Yokozuna (Rodney Anoa’i), who passed away in 2000 at the age of 34, will be the next inductee.
The WWE Hall has been criticized in the past for a number of questionable selections as well as notable omissions. There’s little question, however, that stars such as Bruno Sammartino, representing the company’s early days and title lineage, and the late “Macho Man” Randy Savage, representing WWE’s more current past, are bona fide first-ballot candidates. But neither is in the hall, nor do chances appear favorable for their future inclusion.
Sammartino, a former two-time WWWF champion who held the title more than 11 years, thus far has refused to accept an induction.
“I guess one should never say never, but I would have to see an awful lot of change before I would even think about it. A lot more than what I’m seeing now,” the 76-year-old Sammartino said last year.
Savage, who left WWE on bad terms in 1994, passed away in 2011 at the age of 58.
http://postandcourier.media.clients....30eb3e6a451be5

Some also are questioning the exclusion of Ole Anderson (Al “Rock” Rogowski), a member of the original Horsemen, from the soon-to-be-honored group.
Anderson, however, has stated in the past that he had no interest in taking part in anything related to WWE and company owner Vince McMahon.
He said Friday that his stance hasn’t changed.
“Vince McMahon hates my guts, and I don’t like him. So that’s all there is to it,” said Anderson, who was part of one of wrestling’s most famous tag teams, The Minnesota Wrecking Crew, with the late Gene Anderson.
“To be a part of that, anyone with a brain knows who the first Four Horsemen were. It was me and Arn and Ric and Tully Blanchard, and J.J. Dillon was the manager. So if they don’t know that, they don’t know anything about wrestling anyway. So what’s the difference?”
“Vince McMahon is never going to call me,” added Anderson. “I hate his guts just like he hates mine. It’s no big deal.”
Even if he wanted to, he wouldn’t be able to attend due to health problems, said Anderson, 69, who has battled multiple sclerosis in recent years.
“I can’t go anywhere anyway. I’m so screwed up from the multiple sclerosis. I’m in a wheelchair right now, and that thing kills me after a little while and then I have to lay down. That’s my routine. How would I get there? By car? I couldn’t do that. By airplane? I just couldn’t get there.”
Furthermore, said Anderson, he has difficulty assigning any type of value to the induction.
“They’ve inducted me in some halls already. Years ago I was down there with Verne Gagne and Lou Thesz. Who the hell is better than Verne Gagne and Lou Thesz? I wrestled both of them, and I know exactly what they could do. Verne asked me what I thought back then about our induction, and I said, ‘Who’s going to care? Twenty years from now nobody will even know who you are. And there’s probably not too many people who know who you are right now.’ Lou Thesz and Verne Gagne were certainly two guys who should have been in any kind of hall of fame. But what did it mean? Nothing.”
And, he adds, it wouldn’t mean anything now.
“I told Vince McMahon to go (expletive deleted), and I wouldn’t change my mind now.”
Mulligan, one of Anderson’s old ring foes, called it a “travesty” that Ole wasn’t included.
“Ole was the mastermind of the whole deal. It’s always been Ole’s deal. It makes Vince’s Hall of Fame cheapened,” Mulligan told the Fight Sports Examiner. “Ole is so hard-headed, he’s not gonna listen. Ole and I have the unique ability to put our foot in our mouths. We just can’t shut up at times. We think we are too smart sometimes. But Ole had one of the greatest minds this business has ever seen. And he should be in the Hall of Fame with the Horsemen.”
Another former Horseman who didn’t make the cut, Lex Luger, told the Busted Open satellite radio show last week that he didn’t feel snubbed and that Windham, if not Ole, deserved to be among the group inducted.
“I think Barry Windham would be a splendid choice for getting inducted. What a great honor for him. I think it would be a great time in Barry’s life right now, from what I hear, for him to receive that. I’m going to be down in South Beach for Wrestlemania. I wouldn’t miss it. I will be in the audience cheering on the guys who gets selected as The Four Horsemen. I’m just thrilled that I was a part of it at all. I think Barry is a great pick.”
Luger certainly can relate to Windham’s health problems. In 2007 he suffered a spinal stroke that led to temporary paralysis.
His change in attitude reflects a sharp departure from the days Luger was known as “The Total Package,” an egotistical, narcissistic heel that mirrored his real-life persona. The current version of Lex Luger (Larry Pfohl), however, is a born-again Christian who eagerly shares what he calls “the confessions of a drug abuser” and rails against the dangers of drug abuse.
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Another WWE Hall of Famer, Jerry “The King” Lawler, told the Miami Herald last week that there might be some who are a little jealous of Flair’s second induction.
“Ric Flair having two rings is going to make a lot of people a little bit jealous,” said the WWE commentator. “Though there is no way you can say the Four Horsemen are not worthy of being inducted in the Hall of Fame because, as a group, industry-wide, they were as formidable a group of talent that there ever has been.”
Wrestlemania 28 will be held April 1 at Sun Life Stadium in Miami Gardens. Miami has already established on-sale records for number of tickets sold and gross amount.
But for many, the highlight of the weekend will take place the night before Mania and the highly anticipated Rock-John Cena showdown.
The Horsemen, the greatest legacy in pro wrestling, will share the spotlight one more time. And with them, front and center, will be Ric Flair, styling and profiling in front of thousands of fans, some of whom fell in love with him more nearly four decades ago, others learning in later years “what all the excitement was about.”
And you can bet that the “dirtiest player in the game” will be flashing the Horsemen’s signature four-finger symbol of excellence, with two of those fingers proof positive of that fact.

Theo Dious 01-15-2012 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicky Fives (Post 3732151)
I'd love to see Yokozuna inducted......Would be awesome for one of his closest friends (Undertaker) to induct him, but I doubt we would see that.....

Is Fuji in any condition to do it? Seems reasonable.

CSL 01-15-2012 04:40 PM

Fuji was in a wheelchair a few years ago, dunno if that was a permanent thing. Rock maybe given he'll be there, Rikishi, the Samoans etc

Triple Naitch 01-15-2012 04:56 PM

It would be nice to see the whole extended Anoa'i family come out to induct him. Kinda like how all of Mr. Perfect's family came out to induct him.

CSL 01-30-2012 12:16 PM

next inductee

SPOILER: show
was reported on TMZ earlier and now on .com, Twitter etc that Tyson's going in

Innovator 01-30-2012 12:16 PM

I hope Cold Stone inducts him.

whiteyford 01-30-2012 12:19 PM

Think that was a cert eventually,for publicity if nothing else.

MoFo 01-30-2012 12:20 PM

Thats fucking awesome

:love:

erickman 01-30-2012 01:14 PM

another year andy kaufman gets snubed

Jordan 01-30-2012 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by erickman (Post 3749992)
another year andy kaufman gets snubed

:roll:

The time is ticking on that one huh?

Blue Demon 01-30-2012 02:25 PM

Mike Tyson to be Inducted to HoF
 
So I guess he'll be this years celebrity inductee:

http://www.wrestleview.com/viewnews.php?id=1327944080

Courtesy of WWE.com:

Boxing legend and pop culture icon "Iron" Mike Tyson will be inducted into the WWE's 2012 Hall of Fame class on March 31 in Miami, WWE announced to major media markets throughout the nation Monday. Among the most decorated pugilists in history, Tyson established his place in WWE lore in 1998 when he served as a special "outside enforcer" for the WWE Championship main event of WrestleMania XIV between Shawn Michaels and "Stone Cold" Steve Austin.

Blue Demon 01-30-2012 02:26 PM

Crap....forgot about the HoF thread...deleate please.

Corndad 01-30-2012 02:29 PM

If any Celebrity should go in it should be Tyson. Maybe Mr. T but Tyson is a perfect choice.

Xero 01-30-2012 02:32 PM

Mr. T deserves it before anybody else. But Tyson is easily top three, along with Cyndi Lauper.

Mr. T and Lauper were huge components in why Mania took off as well as it did.

MisterLee 01-30-2012 02:34 PM

http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2010/0112...ysonts_576.jpg

erickman 01-30-2012 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xero (Post 3750086)
Mr. T deserves it before anybody else. But Tyson is easily top three, along with Cyndi Lauper.

Mr. T and Lauper were huge components in why Mania took off as well as it did.

yeah let piper put him in

ZosoMetalManiac 01-30-2012 04:38 PM

Fuck yeah Mike Tyson! Tyson at least deserves it. That moment with Austin alone was huge. It was all over the media and it made Wrestlemania XIV and Austin even bigger. Good stuff.

Emperor Smeat 01-30-2012 05:12 PM

:D Tyson is a good choice and agree that Mr T needs to get put in as an eventual choice for the celebrity section.

Xero 01-30-2012 11:24 PM

http://www.tumblr.com/photo/1280/cor...qda9AHj1rnymj4

Skippord 01-30-2012 11:41 PM

God I hope he sings One Night In Bankok at the induction ceremony

Xero 02-08-2012 06:18 PM

This does contain spoilers in who will be inducting who and includes one inductee who has not been discussed yet.

SPOILER: show
From PWInsider:

As we reported Monday in the PWInsider Elite section, the current internal plan for WWE Hall of Fame inductions are:

-Steve Austin inducting Mike Tyson

-Triple H & Shawn Michaels inducting The Four Horsemen

-Christian inducting Edge

-Alberto Del Rio inducting Mil Mascaras

-JBL inducting Ron Simmons

-The Rock inducting the late Yokozuna

Emperor Smeat 02-08-2012 06:25 PM

The ones inducting the Four Horsemen appears to be the oddest ones out of the list.

SPOILER: show
Also thought the same with Yokozuna at first but then remembered he is related in a way to The Rock.

#1-norm-fan 02-08-2012 07:27 PM

They need to induct Andy Kaufman before Jerry Lawler dies of old age. Jeez.

Nicky Fives 02-09-2012 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 3760871)
They need to induct Andy Kaufman before Jerry Lawler dies of old age. Jeez.

Without his contributions, there wouldn't be any Tyson, Pete Rose of NFL linebackers in the Mania 2 battle royal.....

#1-norm-fan 02-09-2012 09:35 AM

Not to mention he was genuinely an all time great wrestling heel, celebrity or not.

erickman 02-09-2012 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicky Fives (Post 3761358)
Without his contributions, there wouldn't be any Tyson, Pete Rose of NFL linebackers in the Mania 2 battle royal.....

yeah i don't know why he was'nt put in the same time as lawler, maby vince could not get the rights to the lawler andy matches.

whiteyford 02-09-2012 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smelly Meatball (Post 3760803)
The ones inducting the Four Horsemen appears to be the oddest ones out of the list.

SPOILER: show
Also thought the same with Yokozuna at first but then remembered he is related in a way to The Rock.

Yeah i think its solely the Flair connection but still seems like a weird choice.


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