What if John Cena did vignettes of digging up High Chief Maivia and skull-fucking him? Would The Rock be allowed to cry then?

I'm pretty sure I remember him mentioning Cena's movies before. Cena kinda already talked about them anyway so any more mentions from Rock would lose their oomph anyway.

Xero brings up a good point. And these are the types of questions that should be asked heading into Wrestlemania XXVIII.

"'I'll show your grandpa how to smokem real peace pipe."

The Rock would kill him before he had the chance to shed a tear.

What if Cena had raunchy white man sex with Rockys mother?

The Rock is the only one who can get this sort of reaction for Cena

If John Cena tries to steal High Chief Maivia's casket by driving away with the casket chained to his car and The Rock jumps on top of the casket to try and stop him, do you think The Rock could stay on for the full 8 seconds or do you think he'd fall off?

You're telling us HHH was never "over-exposed"? Did you forget about that run he had on Raw where he had 20 minutes promo time per week? It's refered to as the "Reign of Terror".

Wait. I thought Rock "controlled a crowd like nobody else"?

Pretty sure I told you to be quiet.

He hasn't said anything like 'if you'd had the oppotunity to leave for Hollywood, you would have taken it', like saying that he only stayed in the WWE because Hollywood didn't want him.

Shit, the only time I really recall him hitting Cena in his acting-nuts was that thing about The Marine at the HoF.

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Dick Hannah

Was he shaken... BY THE ROCK!?

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Goes with the feud. Rock is there to entertain the people, Cena's there for the boys in the back. What's the point of Rock burying Cena?

So... he went out there, had fun, the audience had fun and it wasn't good enough?

I means it's all about taste, and it's fine if you didn't enjoy it. But he's pretty much doing what he does and getting the (positive) reaction he's pretty much always gotten.

Cena would be signing his own death warrant since every Samoan in the world is somehow related and if Rikishi did it for the Rock, imagine what the Usos would do for him.

It's usually stuff you could enjoy from home coming from him though. There's only so much playing to a live crowd someone can do before it's just like "Can you guys do this after the show and actually say something of note?" I'm sure the live crowd was having a blast chanting kung pao bitch and such. All I could think was how lame the "kung pao" stuff was. I wasn't caught up in it... I wasn't in the crowd. I was at home. Watching lame attempts at comedy.

I can see how it served a purpose in that it was kinda "Rock being Rock". He's been able to do it in the past without just engaging the live crowd though. And once Cena came out, he definitely had an odd "defeated" vibe about him and got awkward for a bit. He wasn't typical Rock to me.

And yes, I've seen a ton of lame attempts at comedy from Cena over the years. I'm just speaking on the current situation though. Cena's definitely been guilty of some cringe-worthy kung pao-esque lines.

i'm loving every second of this storyline. and i'm so fucking sick of reading "cena shud turn heel n talk about [insert stupid shit], n then rock shud say [other stupid shit]. " there's a reason you people don't write the show.

this is an opportunity to go outside the whole bad guy vs good guy mentality and they are using it. and it's great. like who you want to like, and take the ride.

i saw the rock's face after the writing on the wrist jab. i've also seen part of one of his movies. if the look on his face monday was acting, it must be the best acting he's ever done.

I dunno, it kinda seems like Cena is trying to hard to appease the IWC to me, since he knows most of us hate his guts (that doesn't include me).

Cena on his BEST day cannot get an arena full of people to chant both lady parts and kung pao bitch in the same promo.

pretty thankful for that

JBL is poopy.

End of story.

To put my $.02 in, I'm one of the many people on here that were skeptical at last years WM when they , i suppose, "officially" began the storyline with Rock and Cena, wondering how it would work with a year before the match. Now, a mere 5 or so weeks to go, I'm quite pleased with how its gone so far (I was expecting a complete train wreck like some of the recent story lines). Last night I was impressed on how well it went on. For me Rock was up on the insult/momentum meter between the two leading to last night, and Cena made it more even then.

I suspect they'll get more personal between now and WM, and I hope they can keep the flow interesting till then.

That said, I'm NOT expecting anything great from either one in the match, but I DO HOPE that the finish to this storyline is worthwhile.

Vince ask Rock not to completely murder Cena til Mania

If you think the best mic worker in history cant "hang" with Cena you're a fucking idiot

Do you think Vince specifically asked the Rock to look like a punk bitch, or was that just an accident?

It is kind of awesome how personal people are taking this, but also kind of awesome. Both of them were great, just like the great Supreme Olajuwon.

I will be surprised if Dwayne even returns to RAW after getting emberrased. He might no show Wrestlemania you guys

Maybe

This.

shit is getting real son

Ps;

The Rock's promo was actually pretty good. He left out most of the catchphrases, and aside from the kind of lame Twitter references, it was good.

But that kind of lame Twitter references that the Rock is doing, is a point he is trying to make. When he does the Twitter/Trending bit, it's just to show Cena, that whether I'm here 24/7 or not, I still have their respect and their attention. I mean seriously, how often Cena's "Hustle Loyalty Respect" or "Rise Above Hate" trends worldwide in a matter of minutes?

I totally understand that. I get why the references are there. I just think the Twitter thing is over the top as a whole in the WWE which seems to be the consensus for most people. I also am just waiting for The Rock to get real and tear Cena apart.

The problem for The Rock is that he's meant to be putting the match and WWE over, but his absolute Cena-destroyer would be to point out that during HIS era, the wrestling business was many times more popular and vibrant than now. He surely won't be allowed to point that out...

But then again Cena made him look like a fool. Calling him a Son of a Bitch with such venom, and then the wrist notes thing. Out of order. As JR put it, Cena crossed the line from professional to personal. I was actually angry after Raw. Can't imagine how The Rock must have felt.

One thing's for sure: these two boys are gonna draw some ratings in coming weeks.

Feel like SammyG needs to come in here pretty soon with a "wowwwwwwwwwwwww" moment.

I believe that "wrist-gate" was planned by Vince. If not, it would be a desperate and pretty unprofessional attempt by Cena to be edgy Punk-esque.

I also don't think we'll see Rock get real and really go in on Cena in a personal way. Rock has to tiptoe a fine line because after Rock leaves again, Cena is going to be there for years to come and has carried the WWE on his back for many years now. The fruity pebbles, Cena's appropriation of black culture in his gimmick and use of lame catch phrases are the extent of Rock's ammo and he's used it. Vince isn't going to let his top commodity get truly buried.

If it would bump him 5 ratings points Vince would let Rock literally piss on Cena.

WWE isn't about Cena, its a business making money, if it helps draw an audience and cash Vince will allow anything.

It wouldn't surprise me if we find out one day that Rock got backstage after that segment and celebrated with Cena about how well they just stepped up their fued going into 'mania.

How is Cena being desperate and unprofessional with the stuff he's saying but Punk is treated like God for doing it? People can say Cena's ripping off Punk but maybe it's just the way the business has developed slightly since the summer. Seems a bit daft to call him desperate.

The Rock, at some point over the next 5 weeks is going to have open up and rip right back into Cena. The fued will not pick up enough heat if Cena's the only ine dishing out the fire. Rock needs to step up and deliver a serious, gimmick free, catcphrase free promo tearing Cena apart. No jokes, no puns, just Rocky ripping Cena a new one.

I've said on numerous occasions that Punk overdid it too. He absolutely buried Nash in their encounter and it wasn't necessary.

If (and that's a big if in my opinion), but if Cena did shoot on the Rock writing certain lines on his wrist so he could memorize them, it would be unprofessional because there's no reason to reveal that other than to bury/embarrass the Rock. Don't you think that would be a secret best left in the locker room? It would also be a desperate attempt at being provocative at the expense of Rock in hopes for a cheap pop from the crowd. Again, I don't think the Rock would have trouble memorizing a 15 minute monologue, so I'm not saying that's the case, but if it was, there would be anything "daft" about saying it would be a bullshit move by Cena.

I don't think the business has developed that way either and if it did, it's not a good thing that should continue. Guys exposing each others flaws and pissing on their accomplishments makes the whole product look weak. There's a reason why JBL chewed Miz and Morrison's ass for burying Punk on commentary. It doesn't matter whether it's Punk on Nash, Cena calling Del Rio the third wheel when has was champion, Ziggler on Swagger, etc... There's no reason to go outside the gimmick or storyline in that manner.

Note to Cena:

The guy in the crowd with a "Put me to sleep" sign was a CM Punk fan, he wasn't requesting a Cena promo. :D

not knowing your promo is more unproffesional than calling someone out for not being prepared

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OMG. Rock was totally flustered and couldn't recover.

NoDQ.com > WWE > Backstage News on The Rock vs. John Cena, Buggy
Posted by Marc Middleton on 02/29/2012 at 10:16 AM

"The verbal battle between The Rock and John Cena on Monday's RAW Supershow from Portland was designed for Cena to get the upper-hand this time around. This was achieved by having Cena point out that Rock had notes for his promo written on his wrist. Some in WWE claim that Cena pointing this out was unscripted.

WWE officials are determined to get a 50/50 reaction for both men at WrestleMania 28 in Miami."

Fucking knew it. Fuck a goddamn 50/50 reaction. Why do they try so damn hard to get Cena cheered!?

If someone gets a virus because they clicked on your link to NoDQ.com, that is your fault.

PS, you probably have a virus on your computer from going to NoDQ.com.

I'm not sure the Rock can ever win me back after he said something untrue during a wrestling promo.

I only posted the header to cite the source. I have a blocker on my computer because the pop-ups and shit are horrendous at nodq.com, I agree.

Seems to me like The Rock was "sticking to the script" and Cena did not do that which made it look like he got the best of The Rock. When WWE lets them both play ball, we'll see what happens.

Totally love the fact that we can bitch about our pro wrestlers writing stuff on their arms but not our major political candidates. That it's bad in the scripted world, but defensible in the ostensibly "real" world.

debate is over. noDQ has chimed in.

The debate isn't really over so much as it's got a virus and was forced to close unexpectedly.

Just seeing a NoDQ link gives me a virus warning.

Yeah I'm not buying this note gate thing. Since when does The Rock have notes on his wrist?

Total work... It was well done acting by The Rock.

PREDICTION

Cena get's several "legs" up on The Rock, he get's heat on him big time in the coming weeks to to Mania. However, at Mania The Rock does something dastardly to end the match and beat John Cena, something so dastardly even his own Samoan cousins couldn't "Smell What he is Cooking".

Then the next night Cena challenges Rocky to Rasslemania 29 in New Jersey.

From what I thought was going on this past Monday night, and from what I have read from new sites about giving Cena the upper hand to atttempt to split 50/50 on the crowd, I don't see WWE giving Rock the greenlight to get real and tear apart their Golden Boy.

Prediction: The Rock enters the ring. Cena lays down.

I wonder who Triple H is rooting for in this match.

They stole the news from F4Wonline.com

Why is The Fraze getting so bent out of shape here?

Well I'm no psychiatrist, but I would wager it has something to do with his favorite wrestler being made to look like a punk bitch. Perhaps you missed the segment on this week's WWE Monday Night Raw.

Cena is awesome. Rock sucks.

It irks me that people want to shit on Cena's mic skills. He was the Doctor of Thuganomics after all.

Pro wrestling is serious business, of course.

His doctorate required minimal English prerequisites and didn't even require him to defend his dissertation.

He is however officially qualified to teach thuganomics so... ya know... NOT EXACTLY CHOPPED LIVER.

So, definitely have been following this feud, I don't know if it's just me, but it really appears Cena is shitting on Rock every time. Definitely hope Cena goes over at Mania.

Don't let certain people hear you say that.

... but yeah, pretty much.

I hear his background in Thuganomics may actually be a myth perpetuated by WWE.

More lies in pro wrestling.

Source: The Wrestling Observer

It was the WWE’s intention for John Cena to get the upper-hand in his feud with The Rock on RAW. What Cena said, how long he spoke and The Rock’s reaction were all part of the plan.

Many in WWE still believe, however, that Cena pointing out The Rock’s crib notes on his wrist was not scripted and something The Rock didn’t expect.

WWE officials want the crowd to be split 50/50 at Wrestlemania 28 in Miami, which will require Cena to look stronger leading up to it in order to get the crowd on his side.

I saw that too, but I don't know how much I buy into it

o wait I do

because Rock > Cena

You wanna call The Rock a punk bitch?

You're a Supreme Asshole

by the way, trending worldwide, Supreme Asshole

Rock bet his hollywood pals that he could make a crowd chant "kung pow bitch" and he won it

Cena should bet his friends that he can make a crowd chant "cena sucks"

that way he'd have a really lot of money

Meh. I don't think he's struggling financially.

I don't completely believe you... but I'm too lazy to check, so I pretty much have to. :o

I'm skeptical. BRB lemme check.

It's trending, but it's only 7th on the list. So not really that impressive. It's just below #classicAfricanMovies.

And #UglyBabyNames

Dwayne #UglyBabyNames

Oops. Meant to post that on twitter. My bad.

For the record, I never said I believe the Rock is a punk bitch. I was just saying the Rock resembled a punk bitch on WWE Monday Night Raw.

Rock is a punk bitch

And as people repping the Rock have clearly pointed out, Cena making the Rock look like a punk bitch was just for pretends. It wasn't real.

For reals.

btw if WWE wanted a 50/50 reaction for this match, proooooooobably shouldn't hold it in Miami

#justsayin

I hear Creative is already at work getting a 50/50 crowd reaction for that Bret/Shawn rematch in Montreal next month.

DISCUSSION TOPIC #4 or 5

Do you think Creative intentionally made the Rock write on his arm so that Cena could make him look like a punk bitch over something ridiculous because they were afraid Cena might use one of the things from the Rock's real life that actually makes him a punk bitch?

I too would like people's thoughts on this.

Does he look like a bitch, #1-wwf-fan?

Rock's going to kick Cena's candy ass, plain and simple.

An interesting question. If we go back to the video on Raw, there are clear instances where you see definite punk bitch tendencies. Notice the eyes after Cena has left. Thanks to a great shot by the camera man there clearly seems to be a lot of "I'm a punk bitch" radiating from his face at that moment.

I'd be interested to see an extensive family tree. Maybe find out if punk bitch runs in his family.

Yeah, sounds good.

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RISE ABOVE THAT YOU FUCKING BITCH!

oh hai geyes. ive got somes news infos to troll you with:

rantings for raw were down this week.

what does this tell us?

nothing you souldnt already know... the rock doesnt bring in a new audience. why?

because hes not an outside influance. his audience is already watching the damn show.

want some more obvious observations? movies that arent kids movies that have the rock as a lead tank these days because the wrestling audience (i.e. his entire fanbase) couldnt give a shit less. so what does this tell us? he needs to endear himself to the only fanbase thats every cared about him to keep his career afloat. spoiler: its not gonna work they arent even tuning in for his return after a 7 year layoff...but he can still squeeze a few years out of muscular villains once his deal with disney expires.

good chance we will get a few more desperation returns tho so hooray for catchphases...seriously hoped that trend was gone forever...

Are you threatening terrorist activities on Rock's behalf?

PRETTY BANWORTHY! JUST SAYIN'!

I've mentioned this once before, but ratings are down in general over the last couple months. This is the one time of the year when WWE can normally count on a ratings rise, no matter how little or temporary.