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Bully Ray did, James.

Hell yeah! Reverend D-Von returns to SmackDown! I think WWE seriously missed the boat with that gimmick. They went the corny route instead of really using its full potential.

Bray Wyatt is the proper way to do a preacher gimmick.

There are many ways to skin a cat.

A machete is the best way though.

chainsaw begs to differ.

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Originally Posted by itsmeJD (Post 3978710)

chainsaw begs to differ.

We're skinning a cat not mutilating it, you sick fuck.

because James Steele is an awkward Greenwich-sympathizing bastard and I can't quote his response:

1. I'm not sure if you're hinting at anything here but if you are, I don't see why it matters. It didn't affect his work beforehand.

2. But there is no real "relapse" to speak of yet. He was a frequent recreational drug user who went too far one night. Since his initial burn out, he got "ahold" of himself and quite successfully did the drugs he wanted to do around his career. This isn't somebody that has made apologies or promises to get clean and so forth and consistently let people down. And then once he really fucked up and let people down, he addressed the problem and went to rehab. And hasn't relapsed since. It's not like addicts have a better chance of not doing something the longer they stay away from alcohol or drugs, that's not how addiction works. That's if the guy is even addicted.

3. I'd say working 3-4 matches a week for 52 weeks, not to mention however long he was clean for before they took the chance to bring him back is a pretty decent amount of time to "gain back the trust" of everybody. And comparing him to a guy that would immediately hit the beers as soon as he arrived at a building to top up on whatever he'd drank and taken on the way there is a bit of an extreme comparison. If he was anything like Scott Hall/deserved that treatment, it definitely would have shown by now. This is Scott Hall who's 2 last TNA runs combined were shorter than the amount of time Jeff has been on TV without incident since return.

Yes, I'm hinting that there might be some correlation between Jeff Hardy leaving WWE due to getting "burnt out" and getting arrested with a shitload of drugs (more than a recreational amount) shortly after. I can't prove it, but to act like it is highly unlikely is just being willfully ignorant.

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Originally Posted by James Steele (Post 3978712)

We're skinning a cat not mutilating it, you sick fuck.

I was gonna be gentle....just a little off the top and sides. You'd still have a skinless cat. It's art.

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Originally Posted by James Steele (Post 3978734)

Yes, I'm hinting that there might be some correlation between Jeff Hardy leaving WWE due to getting "burnt out" and getting arrested with a shitload of drugs (more jut bethan a recreational amount) shortly after. I can't prove it, but to act like it is highly unlikely is just being willfully ignorant.

but what sense does that really make? He was involved in a public protracted "will he, won't he?" schtick all summer long/for like half of 2009 in terms of him re-signing. It was quite publicly known that he wanted/needed time off for months and months beforehand. Do you think that he somehow got word that he was going to get raided and somehow fixed it so that his contract signed 3 years ago to the day expired just weeks beforehand? That the police are wrestling fans and thought it'd be a good idea not to raid whilst his profile was at it's highest? Did WWE wait until he was gone and then tip them off? I don't understand your point here. Seems like a clear case of good luck for WWE and bad luck for Jeff Hardy in terms of the timing.

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Originally Posted by CSL (Post 3978751)

Point being he was still obviously heavily involved in drugs besides a wake & bake here and there. You just don't wake up one day and go "I know I haven't done drugs in awhile, but damn it I feel like getting a shitload of it today." I also think getting back into drugs are what led to him getting "burnt out". Is that really all that crazy of a conclusion to draw?

and the point still stands that it didn't affect his work. That was the most prosperous period of his career. I doubt there was any "getting back into it" to speak of, everything he was busted for he could do without real repercussion in moderation. Pain pills are a part of the job, getting done for gear is "avoidable" given how the tests work in terms of your testosterone levels and you can pass a piss test in 2-3 days after coke. Which was half of my point to begin with in terms of doing this stuff and it not affecting his work/having anything to do with other people. And no, it wouldn't be a crazy conclusion to draw but I'm a lot more inclined to believe a guy like Jeff Hardy, who already has that "carefree, I'm an artsy free spirit" schtick going, is going to burn out a lot quicker than most given his style, all of the bumps he's ever taken, his wrecked body, the restless leg syndrome etc on top of the fact he's always been one of these guys that doesn't "need" wrestling.

I've heard that above Jeff Hardy song several times and I had no idea it actually had words

If you were running a company wouldn't you do what makes you money.

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Originally Posted by KyleEmmott (Post 3979242)

If you were running a company wouldn't you do what makes you money.

Risk/Reward is a part of running a successful business. TNA is stupid, so they'll throw a guy out there royally fucked up and refund money instead of coming up with something on the fly.