Jimmy you are my fucking hero.

Actually, he needed to have it for 435 days to really be considered great. Too bad :(

To the Punk marks, I just don't get it. He had a huge title run, he lost the title in dubious fashion, there's plenty of time for shit to happen before Mania. This is a typical butthurt PPV over-reaction. He's going to be in the main event picture at Mania...you don't give a guy a streak like that and push him out for Rock/Cena. Obviously The Rock was going to be heavily involved in Mania, he has dollar signs written all over him and one of the biggest names, if not the biggest name WWE has.

That being said, the end of the PPV was a letdown just because that I thought the match itself sucked the dong.

Why is whine spelled with a g in the thread title?

Google "whinge," screech.

Never realized that was a thing. Thought people were just misspelling it all the time.

Also never bothered to czech until just now.

I agree that he looked great through most of the match, then, after the restart he put up little of a fight.

The Rock got tablefucked by The Shield, got the match restarted and put Punk away with ease. Honestly, it was some SuperCena-like stuff that would have 90% of the IWC up in arms if it were Cena.

Why is everyone talking about Rock/Cena? I figure last night is setting up Cena/Ziggler for the WHC at Mania.

Ziggler isn't a big enough star for that

When the match was restarted, Punk was on the offensive most of it....Rock hit a Spinebuster after a reversal from Punks LONG showboating and Peoples Elbow.

People would be mad if it was Cena because Cena does it ALL OF THE TIME.

And there's more....

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So which TPWWer is this? I refuse to believe that anyone could act like this and not be one of our wrestling forum mutants.

If Cena cured cancer, 90% of the ICW would be up in arms.

OMG that would make cancer look so WEAK!

Glorious.

I like the idea or theory of why Punk lost to the People's Elbow due to the symbolism of crowd getting their "revenge" on Punk who turned his back on them. Rock needed the people in order to win because Punk kept proving for over a year no single person could do it by themselves.

Rock winning the title probably wouldn't have been as bad if it wasn't Cena winning or at least had the Rumble been last. Crowd was really deflated once Cena won and it carried over a bit to the Rock-Punk match.

Vince gets his Rock-Cena II matchup but it came at a pretty big cost in terms of what gets potentially tossed. No more potential Taker-Punk streak vs streak match, the idea of Ziggler winning the Rumble then cashing in the case at Mania, and Punk-Rock gets dropped quickly in order to hype up Cena-Rock and/or the Chamber more.

Ok. ZIGGLER ISN'T A MAIN EVENTER! STOP!. He shouldn't headline a normal PPV. Let alone Wrestlemania. And you're mental if you think Rock vs Cena isn't the biggest money making match-up. Taker vs Punk without the title is fine because Taker's streak is what matters. We aren't the majority. We are a very small minority. How many fucking times does it need to be said! If the IWC booked the WWE they'd be out of business within a year.

St. Jimmy needs to shave

You need to go see his dad's channel, it's called "Angry Grandpa".

If I booked rasslin, it would rule. Ric Flair vs Bushwhacker Luke vs Ryback main event Rasslemania. That's good.

Bo Rotundo is a piece of crap! My apologies to the Rotundo family... except Bo Rotundo. If anyone has an animated gif of him getting Bull Hammered it shall become my new avatar me thinks.

That hat to be Xero since he lost all that weight and started getting pussy.

Oh right, it's just the I'M ON YOUTUBE PRETENDING TO SHOUT market. It does work and gets millions of views, though.

I hate people who try to become YouTube celebrities. The best YouTube celebs are like Owenbrown's brother the numa numa guy where it just happens and isn't forced.

They get paid for that shit, though.

Thinking back on it now, CM Punk's heel turn has kind of sucked.

So has yours

It's been very bad. Punk is much better as a face.

Why haven't you changed your title to "Pulse of the WWE" yet?

Because it hasn't FUCKING DIED yet.

ooooo okay

Tazz Dan knows.

So the "once in a lifetime" match is likely to happen a second time, and the two participants in the "end of an era" match, are, well... still likely to be booked on the show.

The only thing Wrestlemania 28 didn't lie about was CM Punk and Chris Jericho's match being about the best the in world.

That "Once in a Lifetime" spiel was just WWE trying to get fans into bed with Wrestlemania and buy into it. Then when WWE has blew their load via completion of WM buys and shit, they wake up the next day, put their pants on @ RAW and totally forget shit happened and start buttering the fans up again.

I'm still hoping there can be a triple threat

Once in a lifetime without the belt, technicalities son!

I'm beginning to think WWE is unscrupulous in its promotion.

It was once in a lifetime for those who died in between Mania 28 and 29

Still think they need to do Cena/Rock again as there is nothing else bigger. Punk with either of those guys just doesn't compare. He is not a big enough star.

Just sucks that WWE has a year to try to mix up the card and get a few new guys mixing it up, and they failed totally. The top 5 matches will be the same names again and the real stars are still the part time guys. It's Mania now though so they need to go with the biggest matches possible. Has to be Cena/Rock...

Cena-Lesnar and Lesnar-Rock are pretty big.

Anyways. WrestleMania is potentially gonna be filled with rematches from WrestleMania and SummerSlam.

The Rock vs. John Cena- Happened at WrestleMania 28
Brock Lesnar vs. HHH- Happened at SummerSlam
Possibly Chris Jericho vs. Dolph Ziggler- Happened at SummerSlam
Possibly Daniel Bryan vs. Kane- Happened at SummerSlam

Hopefully people with get the gist of this thread soon......

Complain about the new title belt in here!

Okay, a complaint...old belt got off too easy, was used as a foreign object to hit the man that was responsible for it's existence.

Someone should have tossed it through a table or into the guardrails.

JBL should have came out and blew it up like Cena's US title again.

I'd have marked out. Wish JBL was on commentary tonight. He would have probably mentioned it.

I'm sure he'll get chance to say that when they recap it 4 times on SmackDown

Whilst I'm here:

[whinge]Pretty fed up of all the talk of "drawing power"/ratings, etc. Seems we try to factor it in to every discussion.

Who goes in as the headliner at the HOF?
Should Rock/Cena headline Mania again?
Was Punk a good champion?

In no other industry/medium do we equate how much money a guy drew to the quality of their work. Fuck, if we did, we better get Justin Bieber inducted into a Hall Of Fame somewhere.

When did we stop judging wrestling as a TV show, in favour of talking through the ins and outs of the business/money side of things?[/whinge]

Wrestling is like no other type of TV show or form of entertainment. The argument can also be easily made that can something be all that good if nobody liked it/watched it?

Coz we're not ten-year-old marks anymore. :(

Damien Sandow should be in the IC title hunt, as soon as Wade is finished with it, of course.

Antonio Cesaro better keep the U.S title for most of 2013, just until he's ready for world title level matches.

Ryback needs to win ALL of his PPV matches for the rest of 2013, to make up for the crappy booking he's suffered since he went from squash matches to WWE title challenger over night.

Brad Maddox also needs a bigger TV role, hopefully this new assistant to the managing director thing is the answer, but it was hilarious when he turned up on Main Event / Smackdown to do commentary a few weeks back.

What crappy booking has Ryback been through? He still is a fucking animal and he has been in a months long feud with a legitimate force. Should he go back to jobber squashes?

Unless Vince fell out of love for big devastating customer wrestlers, Ryback should be A-OK.

He's jobbed on PPV 5 months straight and he's been the Shield's bitch. That "animal" aura and the momentum he had when the crowd was going nuts watching him take out Punk has gone on a ridiculous downward spiral.

:lol:

I'm sure Vince is in love with the guy still. Vince has been in love with a lot of big guys over recent years but failed to make them megastars though. I don't doubt the want to make him a star. I doubt his ability to.

Pretty sure the crowd were chanting Feed Me More when Ryback was on the apron whilst the company's top guy was in the ring. He's still very, very much over.

Also, surely this is just part of the story, the payoff off which will be Ryback overcoming The Shield.

How would you have booked him? Have him won the title in either match against punk? Single handedly destroy the shield in either match while making two already legitimately built superstars look weak? Or win the rumble? Explain how you would have booked him better in detail, just to back up your claims of him being booked badly.

I'm infinitely more interested in Ryback than I was when he was the bullet-proof, jobber-destroying machine.

I'd Ryback to say "fuck partners" and beat The Shield in a gauntlet match at WrestleMania.

Everyone here would complain that they've fucked The Shield up... but fuck 'em. Ryback is a star of the future. The Shield is not.

Duuuuude. Not even going to discuss this with you any further. Please refrain from replying to my previous posts, you are clearly delusional.

So you'd cut the legs off of a genuinely hot faction in favour of Ryback?

Seems it just comes down to personal preference and in doing that the argument has no more substance than the guys who bitch about Punk being "jobbed out" or dropping the title to The Rock.

You say all that as if I'd have put him in those exact matches to begin with...

The end of the Punk Hell in a Cell was perfect. I definitely wouldn't have had The Shield constantly make Ryback their bitch for months on end and I sure as hell wouldn't have given his first clean pinfall loss to Seth fucking Rollins. lol

And how exactly would Ryback beating The Shield at, say, Elimination Chamber, make Cena and Sheamus look weak???

I'm sorry. You need St. Jimmy in here to post some Tyler Black matches to show us all that he's clearly the future. lol

Oh come on now!

I see what you're saying.

But seriously... fuck 2/3 of The Shield.

Let Ambrose look like he may be able to take him down on his own but ultimately fail. The other two can go straight to hell.

Holy shit. Someone save that quote and let's revisit this when Ambrose and Reigns are running the show.

Why can't there be more than one 'future'. It's not a bad thing to build multiple stars you know...

Can you really see Seth Rollins being the face of the company at some point?

Also,

All you're doing is making the same statement over and over without saying how they could have done it better.

Why not? Jeff Hardy was. The Miz was. Rey Mysterio was. Chris Jericho was. CM Punk is.

Just to name a few.

Book him to look like a monster against The Shield... have him in a program with someone else like Show and Ziggler and not make him look like a bitch and come out on top... Keep him winning matches to keep that momentum up. Don't wait til he's on a roll and decide to use that to start putting someone else over. It's ridiculous.

Kinda like Ryback

I said "the face of the company".

You honestly believe that Ryback can be the Hulk Hogan or John Cena of WWE? Like legit believe that?

I actually think Reigns' current role is fitting for him. He looks like a guy who would audition for the role of a bodyguard in a movie and get the part before he even opens his mouth. Him as the muscle of the group is fitting. I just don't see that as a role that's gonna catapult a guy to stardom and I don't see him working out on his own.

:y:

lol Is this six months ago again? Do we need to go rehash the old Ryback threads or are we gonna just have this discussion again?

It was a yes or no question, no discussion needed, not that hard to answer

... Wait, what?

Yes. The man has the fucking it factor. As is evidence by the crowd reactions he was getting during the Punk feud. People were pumped to see him as the next big thing. The thought that he might actually win the title and there could be the birth of a new star (though not pulling the trigger was the right move) was refreshing.

You wouldn't have gotten nearly the same reaction if Seth Rollins or Luther Reigns had debuted, squashed guys for a few months and then faced off with Punk. There's a reason for that.

He has. He's also been placed in situations that use his his strengths to put other people over instead.

Thank you. That is all that I wanted.

Like seriously, that was it. None of that other shit.

Wait... does it make you angry to hear that? Is that it?

Fuck me :lol:

Is that your go to line or something?

I asked a question and wanted a yes or no answer, not a fucking novel on why. Sometimes simplicity is fine dear.

Hmm... I feel like you might get angry when someone discusses why Ryback is megastar material.

P.S. I love you, Tazz Dan.

I would have Ryback remain a lone wolf, not team with shit eating baby faces.

Yeah I'm kind of being a mark about all of this, but I think after getting tossed out of the rumble match, Ryback should be going for the IC title against Barrett, and then maybe re-evaluated for a WWE title hunt in the fall when business is slooooow.

You're turning into a more annoying poster than me. I posted a similar response in another thread and you ignored it.

He was pinned at EC after being manhandled by The Shield who are easily the best trio we've seen in a while. Big deal, it didn't hurt him.
He was the last one eliminated in the Royal Rumble match by the face of the WWE, John Cena. Makes him look like a fucking star.
He was the only one left moving when The Shield got the pin in the 6 MAN TAG TLC MATCH at TLC. He looked like a beast after throwing Rollins through those tables.
He was in the main event (not even pinned) with the 2 biggest names WWE has full time. And was put out by a debuting Shield who have still yet to lose. Not making him look bad at all.
And finally, at Hell In A Cell he was low blowed and fast counted. And got right back up and destroyed Punk.

You're a moron. Because I proved my point am I "angry?" Since that's all you can respond with?

Like Mark Henry, Ryback seems to have a specific facial expression etched on his face at all times. But unlike Henry's impending doom facial expression, Ryback always looks like someone has just shoved a gerbil up his ass.

Woah woah woah. Whilst I happen to agree with you on this topic, lets not go that far.

They tried to do too much, too soon with Ryback.

That's where the Goldberg comparison fails. Goldberg's push was for more gradual; taking out jobbers, working through the lower card, picking up a Midcard title before taking the top prize. Ryback went from taking out jobbers to competing for the WWE Title. It was too early/not the right time for him to win the belt so he had to lose, which is/was unfortunate but ultimately unavoidable.

I'm working on it. Give me another month or two. It takes a lot of hard work.

Fan is trolling lol

It's mike adamle. Let me have some fun, Goddammit.