Ward is pretty rough

want to touch Skye's boobs

He can't lose

Loved this week's ep. Hopefully setting up the "big bad" rivals for S.H.I.E.L.D.

What's up with S.W.O.R.D, though...

Was S.W.O.R.D. mentioned?

No, not yet,

So.....? Why bring them up? Is something supposed to be "up" with them?

lol S.W.O.R.D. was Joss Whedon's creation during his Astonishing X-Men run, they're essentially a space SHIELD counter-part. It's very likely he'd introduce them on the show in some form.

I would guess that at this point in time in this earths history there has not been a need for it yet.

New York was attacked by aliens, led by an alien/god guy who we met a while after his brother's hammer fell from the sky. Through a wormhole.

I'd be surprised if S.W.O.R.D. wasn't being put in place.

Hello...Slingshot.

Where else would you throw dangerous, but still viable, weaponry?

Another okay episode. Again, nothing mind blowing but fun enough. Really liked the start with the guys in the red masks, and the twist at the end with the fat computer guy having the tech in his eye too.

I know it's only 4 episodes in, but they need to start giving us more on this threat. Right now we're just getting tiny, vague fragments of information that a threat's out there. Don't even know if all these hints are about the same threat as they're all that vague.

Right now we have a technologically advanced organisation who are pretty much dealing with everything in front of them with ease, as they should. Need a reason for them to be underdogs and to actually care about any tough situations they're put in, which would mean they need to come up against someone/thing stronger which essentially means either superpowers or a group more technologically advanced need to make themselves known, at least to viewers if not to SHIELD within the show. Tiny hints here and there probably won't keep viewers.

Anyway, the characters were a little less annoying in this episode, still don't particularly care about any of them much aside from Coulson and maybe May. The rest could pretty much be swapped out for cardboard cutouts.

And I almost had a hard time watching the rogue agent's eye surgery stuff.. Ouuch.

Skye's complete lack of gun training was just pure LOL.

Yeah you'd think her training would come back to save her like the disarm last episode, instead she got owned.

Also the rogue agent (kinda) chick could end up with an eye patch like you know who.

This show could be so much better than it is. The writing tonight was just laughable.

Yessss Julian from One Tree Hill. Hot teen drama represent.

Much better episode. Starting to actually get a story now and a bit of character development.

Ward's still terrible.

Ward is always gonna be terrible. But at least we know what Skye is doing on the team now.

Now what does Shield have to do with her I wonder.

Cool episode, that fatality was pretty a nice surprise.

Anyone else think that



Also, love the nod that their plane is SHIELD 616.

Dunno. All this show is doing for me at the moment is "ruining" the "special" feel that the superheroes/villains had in the "world".

Also, it makes me feel very "weird" seeing the "wider Marvel Universe" and not have Mutants being a part of it. Felt "odd" that they had to try to awkwardly find some sort of explanations for Scorch other than "he's a mutant".

Nothing they can do about it, but we know Gifted is just their term for Mutants so whatever - the narrative payout is the same.

Kinda in love with the flower dress chick. Too cute.

I just hope it doesn't go the way of Heroes and become a clusterfuck of undeveloped and uninteresting characters who just have cool looking superpowers and abilities.

And you know, generally being shite.

I'd hope that for any show really.

Possibly. I'm not ruling it out but I'm also thinking Centipede has something to do with them. Or perhaps an Empire or a Horoscope-themed organization. The list of people who Shield has pissed off is endless.

Also, I have a feeling that Slingshot thing doesn't send shit to the sun. It sends things to SWORD.

I'm thinking both Centipede and RS are parts of the whole. And since I was unaware of SWORD I took it at face value.

Those suits they captured SCORCH in looked like A.I.M. suits to me, which would fall in line with their work with Extremis.

I wonder if Centipede and the group who is behind the eye cameras are the same people.

I hope not. Centipede seems kind of "meh", while the eye camera people were cool.

Good catch there.

To be fair to Heroes, it seemed like it was going to do great things before the writer's strike totally derailed that show. You'd think after taking a hiatus, they'd go back and research a show that's already in progress and not just kinda stumble about like it's brand new.

The problem was that as soon as the strike was over, the deadlines to get SOMETHING on the air were ridiculously tight. The networks were so afraid of losing market share to whichever show got "back on the air" first that they expected the writers to churn stuff out NOW!

Same thing happened to Life. If it had time to breathe, it could have went in such grandiose (yet interconnected) directions. Instead, it's like they blew it up and tried to start the show over.

On topic:

I had a thought a few days ago. I think Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. would be an awesome way to incorporate The Flight Program. It would not only satisfy a wet dream of mine (Alpha Flight was actually my gateway drug into comics), but it would add some notable mutants without any "X" restriction entanglements, yet have enough people who don't have to break the bank with actual powers that need to be visually exploitave.

I mean, neither Hudson has any powers without the suit. Puck isn't technically a mutant either. Neither are Shaman or Talisman. If they include her on the hero side, Diamond Lil wouldn't break the bank in CG'ing effects. They're human enough to be relatable on the level the show is going for with "regular people in a newly recognized superhero world".

They could make a big deal about tracking down Sasquach, and SHIELD gets beat to the punch. You know, allow some insight into one of those "other" organizations alluded to that aren't an offshoot of Anonymous or the clandestine big bad they're building. It would make sense cannonically, as Guardian was supposed to be Canada's answer to Captain America. Hell, they could even weave in the story about Guardian getting killed and launch a joint op investigation while Heather puts the suit on to "Vindicate" her husband.

Also, Aurora and Northstar become huge sex symbols if they're cast right.

Alpha Flight are in Marvel's 'Mutant' side of things so yeah Fox most likely has them on lock as well.

Possibly, but none of them were introduced... even back from Generation X, let alone any of the X-MEN/Wolverine franchise films even as easter eggs. They don't neccessarily have to delve into dealings with Logan or mutant registration unless they get referenced somehow in Days of Future Past.

Also, most of "powers" of the team can be explained away merely for the sake of the show by some triggering event (as in, not dormant until manifested through puberty, so to speak), enchanted item, or just plain science. Hell, Marrina is an alien, and aliens were already established with The Avengers. Her rise and fall is a story arc right there (following the same path as the example I gave above with trying to "contain" Walt, just with her instead), and she isn't such a "major" character where changing what ultimately happens to her will incur the wrath of fanboys the world over. Most people in todays climate of being introduced to people just from the movies will likely not even know who she is.

I mean, if you go overboard with including people like Snowbird AND Box AND Sasquatch AND the twins you may start raising issue, but *most* of the people I mentioned can fit in without any mutant dna explanation at all. Besides, it isn't neccessary to include the whole team. Guardian and/or Vindicator and maybe up to 4 more is good, and you can still eliminate any mutants from the lineup- just put over Department H as another organization of people in suits who took notice from "The Battle of New York".

It's not first come first serve, it's a package deal.

Just read that the Nov 19th episode will be a Thor: Dark World crossover. No guest appearances from any of the big guns apparently, but more that it'll be the team cleaning up some of the mess from the film.

Minor Thor 2 spoilers...

Love the idea of episodes dealing with movie events either concurrently or presenting fallout. Should make the Winter Soldier 'tie-in' interesting since that deals more directly with SHIELD, and it may be a season finale thing. Things are getting hype.

Your forgot the most important part: the episode will be directed by Star Trek TNG's Jonathen Frakes

TEH BEARD!

Looking forward to it

Has this show been cancelled yet?

The ratings are lowering, but I don't think its in any risk right now. Disney owns Marvel and they know tv exposure is good for their movies. Problem with the show is people getting adjusted to the fact that its about real people in a world with superheroes. It's the people who are usually behind the scenes. If the audience can accept that they will be fine. It would be a mistake to unload alot of superheroes on the show. The show is about the team not the Avengers.

You know, I would also mark out if they worked in Damage Control into this show.

It's not jut that it's about people behind the scenes and not super heroes or people with powers. Its that the acting is quite awful.

Is it now?

It is a bit. I'm all for giving this show time and I'm going to continue watching since I'm a huge Whedon fan and I'm fully invested in the marvel cinematic universe, but lets not look at this show with tinted glasses, its got a long way to go before its a good show and one of the main problems is the core cast. There's very little chemistry between any of the characters right now and one member of the cast in particular is ridiculously wooden.

Not exactly expecting The Wire or Breaking Bad levels of acting bit right now its leaving a fair bit to be desired.

This. Do people remember how bad the acting was for the first season of ST:TNG? Go back and watch some of the first eps and then compare that to 3rd or 4th season and tell me there's not a world of difference.

And the blame can't he hung solely on the actors. The writers, directors, and producers all have to get comfortable in their positions.

Does anyone remember the way Buffy started out? Very awkward. Same with this show. Give it time to grow and I think it might surprise people.

So far I'm not really enjoying it. I'll watch every episode anyway, since it's Marvel, and I feel it's all part of "the big story" of the Marvel Movieverse, but overall I've found a lot of the episodes to be pretty boring, and the acting is pretty rubbish.

Would prefer it if it was about legit, S.H.I.E.L.D. agents working behind the scenes in coherence with the movies. Having amateur field agents/kids/hackers etc doesn't really seem that interesting.

People were kinda spoiled with Firefly. Pretty quick chemistry there. And we can all agree Ward is nothing remotely close to Mal. In acting or being a good character.

Also, people aren't really developed yet. You have to note they're creating compelling nobodies from the ground up in a world where the wholly established cannon has at the very least two decades or more of backstory. No easy feat. Compare this to, say, Arrow, where half the cast is someone the hardcore audience has at least an inkling of who they are expeced to be and what they're like. The closest we come with this group is Coulson, who has at most 10 minutes of total screen time pre-Avengers.

Skye, even before her revelation there, has the most personality thus far. In acting, she works it- as a character, she's gotten the most exposition for who she is, how she thinks, what her motivations may or may not be. Nobody else has come close to being really fleshed out thus far except maybe Agent May and her reluctant badassery. Ward shifts too much between "specialist" to complete baffoon, Coulson's just in charge, and Fitz/Simmons are like siblings/lovers of; which one is a germophobe.

Yes, Whedon's name carries with it not only built in apologists (of which I'm partly to blame) but built in lofty expectations as well (this *better* be as good as Firefly/Serenity, Buffy, Angel, Dr. Horible, and Avengers, and not so much Dollhouse.) But again, this show just started, and is really just mortar between the bricks of the movie franchises associated with it; glorified webisodes in a sense, with made-up people in the vein of Rise of The Imperfects.

Dollhouse was great once it got over the hurdle of having the main character not have any memories of each episode, which granted was about 5 or 6 episodes in. Which again is another reason I'm going to stick with the show. But right now, no excuses, it's not as good as it could be considering all the potential it has.

I'm enjoying it enough. I don't hate it or anything that's going to stop me watching it, but it's just not all that gripping right now really.

Was the Diner that Skye and Gunn met the same one he took Fred to in Angel?

More then likely.

Ironbite-this is the Whedonverse after all.

Curious cover for the show. Could be nothing, but hell if it didn't cross people's minds.

https://scontent-a-mia.xx.fbcdn.net/...51563578_n.jpg

Y'know, I just realized something:

The show feels a lot different if instead of comparing it with the Marvel Cinematic Universe you think of it as a variation on The X-Files where we KNOW that aliens exist.

Or an X-Files that focuses on Skinner and his staff.

Let me preface this: i am a hardcore Whedonite and junkie so i will watch this show every week till it goes away. HOWEVER i do not enjoy this nearly as much as i wish i did. Outside of sky i dont care about any of them none of them mesh with one another AT ALL coulson is painfully over pushed ad the writing is flat out bad. *sigh*

like shadow said though buffy wasnt buffy right out of the gate and mutant enemy always reacts to the fanbase. mid season break/season 2 will see this show start adapting to what it can be, or at least i hope. either way im here for the long haul.

FZZT was refreshing. More so than the previous episodes. Could be because there was more Fitz and Simmons, and minimal Sky.

Can I ask for Ward to get an actual character? We're starting to see that but god damn it I want more then the occasional flash.

That was a much better episode for me. Like Asmo said, it might've been the shift in character focus. It just seemed a more well rounded episode that had a little bit more to it than a typical "case of the week" episode. Made me actually care about Fitz and Simmons, rather than them just being a bit of an annoying side act. Easing off on Skye was a bit of fresh air for the show too.

The writing definitely is still a bit off though, there seems to be zero wit in any of the comedy beats in comparison to pretty much all Whedon and all Marvel projects.

Fully with Destor though, its got too much potential and too many good people behind it to not improve greatly.

one thing about the premise though is they can easily add and remove people with out the integrity of the show being jeopardized. it isnt reliant on anyone honestly even coulson (though they want it to be for some reason.) so this show has potential to completely reinvent itself countless times if it needs to.

Much better episode last night.

Such as completely replacing Ward with J August Richards' character, or well... anyone, I agree!

I WAS CRUSHED WHEN HE WASNT PART OF THE CAST AND JUST A ONE OFF.

#givegunajob

HE FUCKING TOUCHED LOLA

Also, I am so down for Melinda May vs Black Widow. It seems Agent May's reputation surpasses even Romanoff and Barton, and it may be a curb stomp - but I wanna see that fight, even as a one-off spar for fun.

I am very curious about her backstory

He could come back. He got the Night Night gun not killed.

Now THAT was a good episode! Please give us more like that. Hopefully we'll be able to stop losing viewers and get a second season!

Yessss, J August Richards is back. Now all they have to do is kill off Ward and use J August Richards as the muscle of the group and I'll be satisfied with where the show's heading.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BalzRJNCAAAhzQK.jpg:large

God damn black people just don't age. He looks no different than he did during Angel.

He looks older.

THAT was FUCKIN' AWESOME!!!








But now we have to wait 4 weeks for the follow-up.

Good episode. Probably the first time they've got the whole cast involved heavily while also giving the guest actors and villains ample time too. I much prefer having a recurring villain rather than monster of the week episodes. I even quite liked Ward this week. I was fully expecting him to be a lovesick puppy around May so it was good to see him shun her. I think Skye may have surpassed him as the least interesting character now, so good for him. The Coulson dying thing is reeeeeally dragging on though. The sooner they reveal that and get past it the better in my opinion. I'm far beyond caring how he survived now.

Got a feeling they're gonna drag out the inherently obvious plot of May being Skye's mother (or at least being the agent that dropped her off) on for too long too.

I was hoping they'd have revealed Coulson's survival by now so they could focus on one "big reveal" at a time. Especially since that secret goes back to the movie.

So are we all pretty settled that Centipede is a version of HYDRA?

Still think it's A.I.M.

The suits in the fire episode looked like A.I.M. suits, and Extremis ties in with A.I.M. and Iron Man 3.

So, what's the verdict on 'The Magical Place'? Avoiding any spoilers at the moment.

The episode was paced very well. Probably the second best of the series, post 'FZZT'. It didn't answer all the questions, but being the mid-season premiere, managed to raise a lot of others to keep interest and buzz going.

Also, the operation scene was painful, scary and the edgiest scene to be shot for a Marvel property.

Yeah, really good episode. I like that Fitz had a bit if an edge to him. Would like to see that develop gradually. Ward might even be growing on me a bit.

Skye actually had a character this time around. And Mae, she fucking played Hand so hard it was like she was fucking her.

Alright, now circle the differences.




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Anyone else think that

Yeah, was wondering why SHIELD wouldn't try to recover his body.

They mentioned someone's burnt remains which they assumed to be Peterson.

If that's true (I don't remember hearing it, but I trust you), then that's a MAJOR oversight by SHIELD, since if it was his body there'd be traces of the Centipede hardware.


But the more I think about it, the more I'd be interested in seeing how long he could be "made" to be a mole for them on Coulson's team.

Damn that was a good episode. Took the series a while to get going, but things are starting to get interesting.

I think the next time we see Mike he'll be known as Deathlock.

Which will rule.

You mean this guy?

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-F7ZVyerjV9...s-deathlok.jpg


Yeah, I can see the resemblance. But I'm not sure since he was a member of X-Force if they're allowed to use him.

that looks like red skull kano

You'd be wrong and Deathlok was a member of X-Force? I go wiki.

*wikis*

Huh....well as long as they don't call him Deathlok should be ok.

I'm late but yeah, nice episode.

- Coulson's resurrection was kinda horrifying, and extremely sad. I just felt... bad. We need Fury's reasoning on this.

- Reyna is gorgeous, and her powers of persuasion are extreme. I honestly don't know if she actually cared about Coulson or not. The flower inquiry was rife with ship tease.

- Between May's swerve support and Skye's freudian cosplay I'm sensing something brewing between the two.

- Also, this is the first time I saw Skye as 'SHIELD Agent Skye'. Good job, girl.

- Not recovering Peterson's body was incredibly reckless to the point of SHIELD, as an entity, breaking character.

- Please give Reyna a Heel Face Turn, I love her.

He was a minimal part of X-Force and it wasn't even really the "true" version of the character, so I doubt he'd fall foul of coming under the X-Men in the film side of things.

That and he was only part of X-Force years after all the contracts would have been drawn up.

Eh...hard to say what Fox will let go of. If he's part of anything X-Related it could be hard to actually call him Deathlok. So I don't know what they'd do.

But Mike will be back so I'm kinda happy.

Another very good episode this week. If anything it resolved more unanswered questions and in a better way than last weeks. Glad to see the show really beginning to find its feet now. The whole thing of Skye's parents didn't really appeal to me, but now knowing that she was an 084 is a much more interesting concept, and I'm genuinely intrigued to see where it'll lead.

They do however have a lot of balls in the air right now and you have to wonder if/when/how they're going to get round to resolving a lot of them. There's obviously The Clarvoyent and Centipede as the main threat but then you've also got Ian Quinn, Rayna, Mike Peterson, the kid from this week seemingly gaining ice powers and also Ian Hart's character whose name escapes me right now who are all connected to Centipede somehow. I'm sure they'll get round to sorting all that out, but hopefully they don't just throw out timid resolutions just to get the plots tied up.

When does this come back in the UK?

I read it'll be back in March because Channel 4 want to show it all weekly without any breaks at any point.

Which makes me wonder why there's going to be about 6 weeks worth of sporadic breaks of the show in America.

WTF just checked, and the next episode isn't until the beginning of February. Whats the deal with the breaks, yo?

Typical US TV show schedules for the past 1-2 years have been horrid.

Yeah Elementary came back on January 2nd, ran 2 or 3 episodes and is off till early February too. Sad cause I need my Lucy Liu fix.