Blitz, calm down, don't need you going all Kano on us.

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I disagree. All I want right now from either of them is Knack. Hoping that's all going to change by E3.

How did it get to the point where people started assuming these console reveals were supposed to be like mini E3s? They showed the console, talked about the architecture, showed some new features, showed a few games, all in an hour. E3 isn't even a month away, I can't get too pissed off that they didn't show 35 games.

Naming-wise, seems pretty dumb considering the original Xbox technically was "Xbox One."

PS4 conference was better in terms of showing more games but Xbox One was better in showing the actual console.

http://www.computerandvideogames.com...-for-xbox-one/ Theeere we go

It's even brickier.

Hopefully the fee will be small. Gamestop could just lower the price of the used game to factor in the fee if its small, so they can still encourage people buying the used games.

No backwards compatibility and unlike Sony, there are no vague promises of it arriving in the future.

http://www.theverge.com/2013/5/21/43...s-compatibilty

I wonder if the unlock fee de-authorises the previous account holder.

If that's true, instant turn off for me.

Probably. Like a car title.

Wow. All that great XBOX taste without all the calories?!:eek:

Don't count on it. I've worked for them for nine years and they will find other ways to nickel and dime you.

Little early to judge but the "fee" system is a deal breaker for me. Can't say I was too impressed with what was shown so far either.

No such thing as a deal breaker, Sony will put in the same thing and that's it, you're stuck.
Gamestop will go out of business tho but its okay because they suck more dicks than seth82.

Xbox Omni would have been a cool name if they wanted to give the "everything in one" message.

It wouldbe shortened to XO, which might get confusing in texts. "Hey, Dave, wanna come over and to my place and play XO?"

It shouldve really been called the Xbox 720.

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<font color=goldenrod>Between no backward-compatability and the fee, I'm not getting this anytime soon. Probably not until they stop making 360 games.</font>

Similar to the PS4, its possible to play games the same time they are being installed.

http://www.destructoid.com/xbox-one-...g-254194.phtml

CoD Dog > entire CoD franchise. What smart marketing on their part eh?

Microsoft stating the console does not charge fees to play used games and that The Wire's report is wrong.

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According to The Wire though, Microsoft hasn't completely denied there being an anti-used game system in the console (similar to Sony stating there is one but currently deactivated for the PS4).

Edit - According to Phil Harrison, The Wire's report is somewhat true but the fee system might not be as strict and allow multiple users to share the same game disc (either by accounts on a system or by a key limit).
http://www.giantbomb.com/articles/mi...-x2/1100-4645/

Edit #2 - According to Major Nelson, there is no fee for having others play your game or bringing it over to other people houses as long as your gamertag is logged onto the console your game is being played on.
http://majornelson.com/2013/05/21/xb...nd-used-games/

Meh. I guess all that they actually did show was cool and all, I just don't see myself using most of it. I don't wanna drop like $500 to combine my TV and cable remote or use Skype

Request:

I am just getting online now and missed the show. I rather not go through this thread and other media circles - I just need the full show. I wanna watch it unfiltered by opinions already out there. I need to see it for my latest blog update. If you know a link of the full show that would be great. I'm also looking so if I find it first I'll let you guys know.

Reps for effort as well.

It's "on demand" on the XBox 360 apparently too.

Awesome thanks. YouTube was full of 'live reaction' vids with douches talking over the footage. I was getting pissed. Rep for you.

My brother and I watched the first 5 minutes and saw the box. Both of us said it was really a throwback to the first Xbox.

Ain't digging Kinect being thrown in and all voice command junk. And along with no backwards compatibility and a chance of a fee for used games, I'll probably hold back on this.

Oh, and has the always on internet rumor been confirmed?

Kinda. You have to go online once every 24 hours it seems.


http://kotaku.com/xbox-one-does-requ...ay-o-509164109

MS Store is offering a $10 discount on any order > $10 if you subscribe to pre-order info on the XBOX One. I used it to snag Office 365 University.

I will hold off to see how this whole thing goes. The good ol' 360 still have life in it. As it stands right now though, i'm leaning towards PS4.

Some interesting news. Gonna go in detail on my blog.

The game sharing went how I thought, more or less how XBLA games are tied to your account. Lending it to a buddy requires him to essentially buy the game to play it. Unless you're signed in to his box at the time, then it simply plays (should be smooth with the cloud thing).

Gamestop should be fairly pissed, though. You can however, trade and sell games digitally, in a process they didn't specify yet. That may be a game changer, but as I said on FB game sharing as we know it is dead on Xbox.

Gotta wonder if GameStop will bother carrying anything Xbox One related, depending on how this used game thing shakes out

This strikes me as stupid, if he's accurate. I don't think this would be a dealbreaker for me, but I honestly don't like the shit I've been seeing. I think I'm gonna milk my 360 for all it's worth then sink some money into my PC instead of buying this, if all the stuff they're half-saying is what we all think they're saying.

Microsoft's probably going to give them a blowjob like every other company out there.

I'll keep my money on this one.. I'll stick to my 360 flash drive USB.

My Xbox is always connecting anyway, but what really has me down on the XB1 is that the majority of the features they showed I could care less about, and the odd way they are handling the used/barrowed game situation is essetially DRM without saying its DRM.

I get that they want their system to be an entertainment hub, but some people just want a plain ol' gaming console. I dont need (or want) Kinect, I dont care about voice or hand prompts, and I sure as hell dont appreciate a console telling me what I can do with the games I buy.

So unless things drastically change between now and launch, i'll probably be keeping my 360 and buying a PS4.

X-Box One is a dumb name for a new system. Almost as dumb as the Wii U name.

To make it short: Here's what it's all about. TV TV SPORTS CALL OF DUTY. TV TV. TV.

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I probably wont even use half of the stuff the things got loaded in there.

I love you guys, so I really don't want any of you buy this "Later this year". Get it the year after. Seriously. I don't wanna hear about you guys getting this next Fall. I will defriend you on XBL, FB, whatever you exist to me on. Don't do it. Please. Just wait it out.

Although XBOX One has mentioned MTV is on it. Hmmmmmmmmmmm... Unless the MTV on XBOX is just plain old shit pop videos of today and reality shows.

Still, I'll stick to the 360 and PC then.

Yeah because that's a good reason to not buy a video game system.

A sad trend today is people reaching fairly far to find criticism with Xbox One, even though the issues don't require such effort. In a sense, this is a good sign for Microsoft. People are already ignoring the key issues for petty shit.

Not sure why you'd bother with either, at this point.

I like how one of their major selling points is that power on voice gimmick that they ADVERTISED (this wasn't conjecture or some misquoted blurb, they produced a commercial) but didn't deliver with on Kinect before its launch! [/sarcasm]

Oh, yay. I can supposedly watch NFL games 18 Sundays out the year AND do fantasy football?! But I don't play fantasy football. Spending conference time to ANNOUNCE A TV SHOW? I get it's a cash cow, but its a bit like if Sony took a bit of their PS4 reveal time to talk about their new line of home stereos.

And ultimatly being suspiciously tight lipped about the questions their audience REALLY wants to know the answers for at a conference full of people just talking in corporate buzzspeak. Then having to look that shit up that someone posted online? No, you just had a conference that should have made that legwork unneccessary!

That's why they closed the show with a new CoD. In a nutshell, the conference seemed kinda like this:

"I'm sorry to tell you, the accident left your father badly paralyzed. You'll have to check in on him everyday. You're going to spend a lot monthly for his care and... uh... OOH, LOOKIT THE PUPPY! YOU LIKE THE PUPPY? YES YOU DO! YES YOU DO!"

As I said about the PS4 conference, ending your show with a multiplatform title is ass.

Some tweets about the stream.

Katy Goodman @KatGoodman7
Whenever he uses Kinect commands my connect listens and turns off the stream. #xboxreveal Go home Kinect, you're drunk.

Jamie Dalton @VGMasterD
@ScottLowe I watched the live stream on my XBOX 360 and my Kinect paused the video every time a presenter said "XBOX ..." which is ironic.

Jason Chen @diskopo
When the guy on the #XboxReveal stream said "Xbox Live" it activated my Kinect and killed the stream. Good thinking guys.

And I bet far more people will be buying Ghosts on 360 than on XONE anyway.

Major Nelson bleated the following:

While Phil Harrison used the following word vomit:

That's some sexy missed messaging.

EDIT: Mr. Harrison is still clarifying his nonsense.


So it's not anti-used games, just a system to make sure MS/publishers get their cut and also destroy lending friends your games.

At least Kinect sounds massively improved:

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2013/0...er-and-kinect/

Japanese gamers are doing that thing people do where they ignore something for years and, the minute it doesn't cater to them anymore, they complain about it.

They could actually be in the 1.6 million people in Japan who bought a 360, you know. Which as it stands, is somehow still more than the PS Vita lifetime sales in Japan.

Which they'll get away with because Sony did it too.

There shouldn't be too much focus on exclusivity. The hardware plays what it plays.

I was waiting for this.

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Source.

Any thoughts on what it could be? I'm hoping for Banjo, PD or KI but I'd not be upset if we got a new Conker.
I sort of think it'll be something really retro. Sabrewulf or something. Battletoads?

Certainly not KI. They are just cool enough.

A Banjo-Kazooie themed Mario Party clone.

Eh.

You know it's coming. Only with Kinect 2.0, of course.

I would like to see what they'd do with Battletoads, though. A new PD or BK should, hopefully, be closer to the originals. I'd like classy Joanna over the Zero Joanna. I'd like to have a platformer like BK1 and 2 rather than something like N&B.

Except Rare is make up of different people who are mostly aimless now. So let that go.

I know it's different people. It really cannot be that hard for them to grasp what people liked in those serieses or from those characters.

Think a new Perfect Dark or Banjo would be more likely than a new KI or Conkers. At last with PD, they can use 4J Studios to help out (worked on XBLA port).

Don't think anyone who worked on the KI or Conkers series still works at Rare. Might have missed out on the window for KI considering Capcom recently stated the fighting market is way too saturated and declining again.

It's saturated because they saturated it themselves. Pretty sure they did that last time too.

Don't want Kinect, and apparently the X1 won't function without it, so f off microsoft.

Also, having to run it online once a day just so microsoft can fill your dashboard with fresh ads? Shameful.

But we see just that all the time, do we? Inheriting developers miss the point 80% of the time. I can count on one hand the number of times a franchise switched developers and improved (DMC, Kamiya to Itsuno), and we're lucky for it to at least stay level (Halo, Bungie to 343). But usually it's downhill from there.

And on the FG saturation thing; I was just talking to Khuntry about how I'm sick of hearing that noise when your average game store shelf is mostly FPS games and nobody bats an eye. Take all the fighting game cases and the shooter cases and stack them. Then honestly tell me what's really saturated.

You have XBL, same as me. Is it really so different now? I've been off lately but overall we (and many of us here) were online whenever we booted up. I understand I may lean toward this attitude since most my interest in gaming is playing online, so my gaming reality already hinges on whether they could keep their damn servers up and running.

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...zWmtQvGh8jwZSI

Yeah. I'm not fed up with fighters but, if they think the market is saturated, they only have themselves to blame.

Actually been having a lot of fun using the kinect with friends lately.

Turned my XBox Live off of auto-renew. I barely use it as it is and there's no reason to keep it running as right now, I will not be getting an XBone at launch. Don't think a lot is going to change my mind.

Oh hey Drakul, you keep asking about SD still, right? The XBone is HDMI only.

Bunch of Xbox One news mostly in regards to games, avatars, and the controller itself.

In regards to games:
* Ryse confirmed to be an Xbox One exclusive according to Crytek
* Destiny confirmed to be having an Xbox One version
* Microsoft currently thinking of doing a "1 vs 100" type game for the console
* Unlike the PS4 and Wii U, indie developers can't self-publish games for the console nor have as much control over the games.
http://www.egmnow.com/articles/news/...one-exclusive/
http://www.destructoid.com/destiny-a...e-254232.phtml
http://www.destructoid.com/microsoft...e-254300.phtml
http://www.destructoid.com/xboned-in...e-254292.phtml


In regards to the console and other things:
* Gold accounts will be unified to work on all Microsoft-related systems so having a Gold account on the Xbox 360 means you have the same Gold account on Xbox One.
* Microsoft stated Xbox Avatars will carry over to the Xbox One and corrected a mistake from the Xbox Event which stated they weren't.
* Microsoft also confirmed the hard drive is not replaceable but HDD size can be increased by the use of external USB storage devices (similar to the Wii U).
* The controller itself has been reworked to have a smaller dead zone while being more responsive with the buttons.
http://www.destructoid.com/xbox-live...s-254282.phtml
http://www.egmnow.com/articles/news/...d-on-xbox-one/
http://www.egmnow.com/articles/news/...t-be-replaced/
http://www.screwattack.com/news/xbox...-things-rumble

I can accept that. It's being stated before release that it's HDMI only. My issue with the 360 was that it was released to be both SD and HD yet more and more gamesrequired an HD tv above a certain size.

I wont have an HD tv for a while yet* so no Xbox One for me.

*HD tvs are around £300 and I'm running an entire house (not just a flat/apartment) and I'm out of college/work right now. The new bedroom tax doesn't help. No way can I justify that price tag for what is a luxury item when my current TV still works perfectly well. That on top of the actual console is an impossiblity.

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Thank God for Jim!

I sold my Xbox 360 and got a Wii U instead, it was a great console but I just always preferred my PS3 and the Sony exclusives. The dashboard was bothering me though with all the advertising, I just hope the next Sony dashboard isn't the same.

Time to shamelessly plug my own website, with a special XBox One edition of The Bonus Stage podcast.

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I'm the wisecracking guy who doesn't know anything about consoles, but the rest of the dudes know their stuff.

Xbox one wont allow used games, how Jewish of Microsoft.

http://i42.tinypic.com/9knxwj.jpg



Not buying this.

No ads when I play SFxT.

You and me both Curtis. This guy says it all too.

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Why rant angrily about it? Just say your piece calmly and walk.

Yes, a barely coherent rant from a hysterical fanboy is usually the way to sum shit up.

Honestly from what I have seen out of Microsoft so far, I am not really impressed by the Xbox one. Even though I didn't pick up a PS3 this gen, I may be swayed to get a PS4 for the next gen, if I get a next gen console at all. These days gaming seems to have lost its luster for me, I have a Wii and an Xbox 360 but I don't play either one all that much, time will tell if I cave in and buy a new console.

Used games from retailers will still work, but they have to sign up to MS's terms and conditions so they manage all the licenses AKA the publishers and MS still get a cut.

I'm pretty sure this will lock out private selling of your own games.


http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/publi...retail/0116137

Jesus who gave a shit enough to make that pic.

Someone with eyes?

Also fuck Angry Joe. Fuck off

Are we all assuming the game takes place on planet earth? Fucking bunch of racists. THERE COULD BE TWO SONS ON THE PLANET DOG.

http://i.imgur.com/DtkdMMO.gif

THIS IS HOW JAWS ARE MOVED ON THE PLANET DOG

The last son of Krypto?

Don't see how most retailers would bother to accept that plan if it really does leave them with just a 10% cut while MS and the publishers get to haul in 90% of every used game purchase.

The 10% cut on new games is a big reason why those same stores carry used games since it barely covers the costs needed to run a store in the long term.

When I worked retail, the markup on games was often far less than 10%, to boot.

I agree with the basic premise. One of the main reasons we have this issue in the first place is that the markup on games is shitty, which makes it hard to work a business model around it.

Wait. What!? Whats next? "Oh theres too many people in the room, gonna need you to pay double for that dvd you guys are watching!"

MS keeps spouting shit like this and not only will I not get an XB1, I'll toss my PC and go get a mac. Can not stand MS anymore. Greedy peices of shit.

*Showtime Kick

Major Nelson recently showed off what Xbox One boxes will look like with Forza 5 used as the example.
http://d1vr6n66ssr06c.cloudfront.net...5-xbox-one.jpg
http://www.egmnow.com/articles/news/...-art-revealed/


Xbox One will contain a "remote play" feature similar to what the PS4 will use and communication involving Skype will limited to just two people at a time as of now.
http://www.egmnow.com/articles/news/...-interactions/


Microsoft recently applied for a patent involving getting achievements for watching tv shows on Xbox One.
http://www.egmnow.com/articles/news/...ements-patent/

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