It is an MMA forum. Grow a set. The injury is more of a gruesome thought than an actual gruesome sight.

I warned you

it's fine to post in nsfw tags, some people dont want to see gruesome injuries

you play by the rules or you leave

weidman is very humble and a very impressive champion

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Damn, they are letting this chick ask a thousand fucking questions.

Sloppy poster tape job by Dana.

Damn, Dana trying to cash in on this chick hard and fast.

I wish Leben would get cut like fucking poodle fur.

That was Karen Bryant who is one of the best MMA reporters around

i agree about the sloppy tape job

Dana is being kind of a dick to the (I assume) Brazilian reporter.

Steele is being kind of a dick

the brazialian woman reporter's questions have gotten a million times better

"will this fight (weidman vs belfort) be fourth of july in vegas" which is exactly when it prolly will be

he was a dick to some random home and gardening reporter asking about their favorite room in the tuf house and about how to decorate yr home gym

his biggest dick move was having a poster ready for 170 with ronda vs sara and meisha is sitting right there

If Silva took this first fight seriously this might have never of happened.

I think Dana still isn't loving the idea of having women's divisions in the UFC, so he doesn't mind shitting on any of them. I've gotta find video of the home and garden reporter...why the fuck would they even cover UFC?

At the risk of sounding like a dick, karma is a bitch.

did you watch that women fight tonight

dana loves that shit

http://i.imgur.com/vHD6jUs.gif

#heelheat

I blame Mario Yamasaki.

Seen the Silva injury in kick boxing matches here and there. Brutal.

I don't keep up with MMA that much anymore, and the fact that more and more of the guys I actually do know are leaving, makes me even less interested. So many different fighters and classes now, it can be daunting to try and get back into it.

Already hard enough for me to keep track of what's going on in the world of soccer, with all their leagues and tourneys.

I'll still probably follow the Light Heavyweight division as it's always been my favorite, and the women's division is great, but with Silva and potentially St. Pierre gone...fuck

fighters get old and retire

just watch fights, i dont understand what you mean about it being hard to get back into

jfc

I really hope Silva can grab one last fight, at least. What an awful end that would be for probably the greatest MMA fighter ever.

UFC is no different than boxing or pro wrestling. The average viewer watches for specific fighters/personalities moreso than for the sport itself.

Miesha/Ronda was pulling for tate but Ronda is a Bad Bitch.

Silva/Weidman wish his 2 wins didn't have question marks (i want Silva to have one last fight)

You are such a fucking d bag

you need somebody to watch? Google Anthony Showtime Pettis. He's all you need to believe in MMA.

You're welcome.

I would have marked out if Weidman said "If he dies, he dies" in the post fight interview.

I'll admit I am not a fan of Silva. But, fuck that had to be a terrible injury.

three to six months...that's an awfully kind assesment.

This is such high level Jiu Jitsu. Dude went for a Gogoplata, lost that, switched his hips and went for the armbar/sweep combination(which is one of the reasons he trapped the leg). Gorgeous application.

He'll be out of a cast and walking in 6 months but wouldn't be able to train or fight for over a year I'm sure. If we see him again, it will be in 2015 or beyond.

he baited him with the gogoplata

miller is a legit contender at 155. kiknda want to see him vs tj grant

Dana is over it. Otherwise he would just put them on free tv like he did Henderson during his 155 title reign. Or at the very least it wouldn't be their 2nd time main eventing a PPV. He also wouldn't be adding a 115 pound women's division.

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man, this is a very ugly conversation amongst Silva and Weidman fans

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those fans make me sick

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basically the short version:


Silva fans: Chris Weidman beating Silva twice is a fluke and Vitor Belfort is gonna kick his ass. or Machida, or (insert other MW contender here).

Weidman fans: Silva fans are all butthurt that their hero lost.

when did Machida change weight classes anyway?

He has had one fight where he ko'ed Munoz at 185

Here is the deal about Weidman's wins over Silva. The first fight he specifically train to gain distance and to charge in when Silva was dropping his hands. For people to say it was lucky is absolutely ridiculous. It was a technique that Weidman trained because it was a trait that Silva had shown for years. Weidmans team figured out a counter and he executed it perfectly, KO'ing Silva, dethroning him, and taking his title.

No more luck involved than say, Silva fainting push kicks to Belforts midsection then when Belfort dropped his hands, Silva went high and KO'ed him. It was something Silva trained for and executed.

Now onto last night, same deal. Silva tore up Weidman in July with brutal leg kicks so Weidman worked on that hole in his game, used perfect technique, and caught the shin with his knee. It was a picture perfect check and cause a serious injury, ending the fight.

Again, a trained MMA technique was used, cause damage, and ended the fight. Silva didn't break his own leg, Weidman broke it.

I'm sure all those Silva fans were saying the exact same thing after the Patrick Cote fight. (look it up)

No, they count that as a win for Silva just and they should count last night as a win for Weidman. The only difference is, Cote's was a "freak injury" where, kick boxers break their shins all the time.

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Well Weidman/Belfort should be interesting. I'd give Vitor a chance in Brazil because he would go trt crazy.

Ronda/Mcmann is a better matchup than Rousey/Zingano. Can't see Rousey losing either one though

I thin McMann will be a great matchup for Rousey and the first time where she'll be facing an opponent who you could argue matches her athletic background.

Seems like a hella quick turnaround though. After a full training camp seems like she's only getting a couple weeks rest before she has to start grinding again.

She got hit a few times but looked fine in the post fight presser.

It is kinda fucked up IMO that they already had the booked with a poster and everything

i put this in tags because people dont want to see the injury and it is unfunny and horrible

thought about deleting it but i like dronepool

-krispy

FOTN: Tate vs Rousey
SOTN: Rousey (Miller got robbed IMO)
KOOTN: Browne

Rousey got $150,000 in bonues, while Tate and Browne got $75,000

Man I always thought Browne would get lucky with his ko's but he's for real. Dude can put serious damage

That is fucking stupid, and I hated it when Rogan mentioned it too.

Also hate that injuries like that get called a TKO rather than a no contest. How is throwing offence resulting in a freak injury "getting knocked out".

I can't agree with that at all. Silva tried to clown Weidman and got caught with a solid punch. Weidman isn't the first guy to try to throw at Silva, he's the first to connect. He didn't train for shit like that because up until that point, he was whiffing like every other Silva opponent.

Yes Weidman checked the leg kick. That's just good fundamental technique that most coaches should tell their fighters to do. Fabre got fucked up off of leg kicks and Diaz would have beat Condit if he checked his. Don't try to tell me he did it with the intent or knowledge that it would break Silvas leg.

Weidman's wins weren't luck, but they damn sure weren't the result of some kind of magical gameplay that predicted those outcomes either.

Weidman found distance and KO'ed him. The clowning is something Silva does every fight. I just dont see how KOing a guy is "lucky". Or how checking a leg kick perfectly where it breaks yr opponents leg is "lucky".

Total bullshit

I can't disagree with you more sir. If a leg kicks can stop a fight, then so can a kick check. Rogan pointed it out before the fight to demonstrate the focus and the commitment to being great that Wideman's camp has. For it to be a prophetic monolouge makes Rogan even more epic.

Dude, there is only one way to make a man stop kicking you: Check that fucking Kick. Bone on Bone hurts both people, If Wideman broke his leg checking that kick how would you respond? and fuck that no contest shit. Nobody wants to win like that but if you can't continue, you lose.


I think people are really really missing the point of this entire fight because of the injury. Anderson Silva was never, AT ANY POINT, in control of that fight. he was getting hammered all night. He was almost finished in the first, and the leg kicks he was throwing was to keep wideman away from him.

Weidman talked about it in the presser that checking kicks is supposed to hurt the kicker not jut nullify the leg kick.

He said Longo has broken a guy's leg in the gym using the same technique

Essentially, a proper "check" is a knee to the shin. I don't see how this stoppage is any different than a knee so a shooting opponent and breaking his orbital. Same deal IMO.

But that is the misconception. Checks arent meant just keep leg kicks at bay, they are meant to damage the shin of the opponent. It was perfect technique with a devastating outcome. No different than catching someone with a punch and KOing them

Have you ever seen Muay Thai kick boxers kicking bamboo?

The are strengthening their shin bones so they won't break as easily

http://instagram.com/p/ihe_6YiMj7/

translated: "I want to thank all my fans and friends for their support and caring message, I'm fine now and I need to be with my family, a good rest with my children and wife will help me in recovery. Thanks Brazil."

Ronda's reaction to Silva's injury

http://instagram.com/p/ifuZpYQBzp

In fighting, offensive/defensive isn't that cut and dry

The guard is both offensive and defensive

A double wrist lock (not Kimura, WAR Barnett) can be used offensively to make someone tap or defensively to sweep position

Never heard of this knee to check kicks thing, I've done it a few times myself by accident and it has fucking sucked, seems a quick route to arthritis and shattered kneecaps.

Reading up on it today, it seems uber painful to build up calcium to be able to do it properly. Seems brutal.

The reason you check a kick is to stop that person from kicking you. That person stops kicking you because kicking your kneie or shin hurts the kicker as much as it hurts the kickee.

The first time you have a kick checked, you rethink a lot of things, including gettnig in the ring in the first place. It hurts a lot. in some cases, it breaks your leg.

In every case, you stop kicking. It's amazing ot see a wrestler get so good so quick at checking. Carrot topping(as that form of a check is called) is a more advanced, brutal type of check. actually, it hurts less than the traditional high check.

Muay Thai isn't a pleasant sport. Respect the people that do it for your entertainment.

I'm a south paw, so my right leg is often a very healthy target for people. I used to take a lot of inside leg kicks because of that. I started using that carrot top instead of the 'traditional knee to elbow' check...motherfuckers stopped attacking my leg.

This is the OFFENSIVE part of checking kicks.

The DEFENSIVE part is the lifting of yr leg so it's not planted as it takes the blow. It allows your leg to "roll" with the strike

http://www.cracked.com/blog/the-10-m...ng-history_p2/

I think #2 describes "Carrot Topping" well, yes?

WAR Ernesto Hoost

explains it perfectly.

Love ernesto hoost. BLACKZILLIANS!

To be fair all those dudes (Minus Sapp :( ) are legit.

Shilt, Le Banner, Tiger White, Ray Sefo, Hunto, Raymon Dekkars, Badr Hari

Jabba's agreeing with you Krispy. There's a slight nuance in his type than yours, but essentially it is the same.

i know

I just compared it to the distance-keeping jab because, while it is definitely an offensive move, I believe the defensive aspect of it is more prominent. The offensive potency of the defensive moves is what makes them a deterrent.

Nobody wants a sore shin, or a punch in the face, and you're doing it in an attempt to stop them attacking in a certain way.

Yes, this is why I'd put it on the defensive side of the scale.

Even though I try not to put too much stock in bloodyelbow, this is some good insight on the "dirtiness" of the technique.

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2013/12/3...-mma-technique

even mentions Hoost and Sefo

I noticed in Browne's after bout promo that he is calling out the whole Heavyweight division, declaring that he is part of the new breed of HWs rising up the ranks.

I can't wait for him to get his shot at the belt.

He is a legit threat to Cain IMO

The Werdum fight will be for the next title shot (when Velaquez comes back from his shoulder surgery) and I kinda see him running through Werdum.

I think he'd destroy Werdum and every other HW except for JDS, although I see him winning that too. A healthy Cain shreds him though.

I dunno his takedown defense is amazing and his striking is better than Cain.

Don't get me wrong, Cain is the best HW in the world but I wouldnt be 100% with him against Browne, specially with the JDS ko.

A healthy Cain Shreds anyone. Ever. In the history of humanity.

Nah. Jesus Christ of Nazareth by way of Bethlehem would wreck his shit.

Are you kidding me, Velasquez has the stamina of a menninite! Jesus last outing was pathetic, and his weight cut looks like it's killing him.

Still, I wouldn't want him to get that Crucifix on Cain, he'd be fucked.

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Ugh yeah. Would be a terrible way for him to bow out, hope he mounts some kind of comeback.

I dunno man. He didn't seem into it after the first Weidman fight. Say he comes back in a year, he will be close to 40, with a year of rust and months of PT. He is rich and famous beyond his wildest dreams and his fans are still UBER loyal to him. I'm not saying he won't come back but I'm pretty sure his best days are behind him.

He is a warrior who went out on his sword so I respect him either way.

While we are on the subject of retiring, has anyone seen or heard anything from Leben?

I knew I liked you

Honestly, Weidman knows how to make Silva uncomfortable, put the pressure on and beat him to the punch. It was evident from the first round of the first fight. Silva has very good takedown d for a guy who's not a wrestler... in the first roudn of this fight he really did well in beginning fending off Weidman, he only ended up on the ground because he got drilled. The problem is, he has to worry about defending the take down and constant pressure and can't find his striking rhythm. Chris throws him off his game and has his number, it couldn't be anymore clear.

Dana was even saying, Silva actually cracked his shin on the first check, and then threw another leg kick and broke his leg. Those checks were designed to hurt, and this fight, much like the first, was no fluke.

I know but it just seems a sad way for the GOAT to go out, and it would overshadow the rest of his career a little as It would be the first thing you think of.

I have thought this before like Chuck getting KO'ed, or Royce getting choked by Hughes, but this is never the case. Now when I think of Chuck, I think of him as a dominant champ and the face of the UFC from 2005-2008. Gracie, I think of UFC 1, 2, and even 3 (his fight with Kimo).

I def see what you are saying though.

I felt like that too, but no one knocks Muhammad Ali for those last two losses to Larry Holmes and Trevor Berbick.

Plus anyone who tries to knock the career of someone who has dominated combat sports for as long as Anderson did because he finally lost to someone 10 years younger has a personal grudge or is a moron.