Such a ridiculous statement. Johnny Rodz who was a jobber is one of the greatest trainers of all time. A decent worker. As was Larry Sharpe who runs The Monster Factory.

Bloom is a good fit as a head trainer or at least as a temporary one. All he would mainly doing is fundamentals and maybe motivational stuff since the other trainers handle the specialist stuff. Him being fat or not having a great WWE career wouldn't impact those two areas.

Demott's problem was he managed to be horrible at everything he was in charge of at NXT. Horrible as a conditioning coach which is why he got demoted before, horrible at motivational help which is where a lot of the abuse occurred, and really horrible at teaching fundamentals.

Hell, you want to talk about trainers who weren't "ripped", look at how many wrestlers trained by Afa and Sika

JYD
Paul Orndorff
Bam Bam Bigelow
Yokozuna
Michael Hayes
Sherri Martel
And so on

I don't think Mat Bloom will be a bad trainer, I'm sure he will be fine. I do think that someone like a Lance Storm or Booker T would be a much better fit for head trainer. Someone who is highly respected as a worker, and also knows what it takes to keep the desired look of a WWE performer on the road.

I like Matt Bloom on commentary, and I know nothing of his coaching skills. I don't think he was a standout worker, which is why I question the choice, given that WWE has so many talents under their wing who still have the whole package.

If Matt Bloom is the best guy they have for the job then I'm glad they chose him.

I know that guys like Lance Storm and Booker T have their own businesses and aren't really available for the job. But I would have been more impressed to get a top notch worker in the job.

I think it would be a valid argument that if any training facility should ever have a trainer who has drawn money to train the guys (something the majority of schools don't have), WWE would be the place.

Also if I had my way Taz would quit TNA and be the head trainer at NXT and do commentary.

Just making it to the WWE is huge. Bloom has been exposed to a ton of different styles. Lots of coaches in sports didn't even play in the bigs, but still managed to be great. Scotty Bowman is the greatest coach in NHL history and he can barely skate

I actually don't know if anyone has given Booker T high remarks as a trainer and I don't know if any of his guys have gone on to any big companies, anyone know?

That is a good point. He has worked basic WWE matches for years, including a lot of comedy stuff, and has his experience with big slams in Japan. Not a bad point.

Again I don't think he will be bad. I am just surprised WWE doesn't hire someone who is more in shape to inspire the workers to work hard on their bodies. As well as, using someone who has drawn money and had remarkable matches.

Overall I am glad that Demott was gone. I knew he was an asshole from his Tough Enough appearances and what happened at Deep South. I can totally imagine the environment he would create, probably thinking that was the type of hell Vince McMahon wanted the workers to endure, and it probably is.

They have separate coaches for that. Bloom's job has nothing to do with that part of it.

Even if it did, as countless veterans have said, there is a huge difference between being in shape, and being in ring shape. Bloom may look fat, but I guarantee you that there are hundreds of guys out there that look like they're in way better shape, but would blow up in the ring way sooner than Bloom would.

And I disagree with Albert not being a good worker. I've always been a fan and thoughtbhe was a great big man worker, just lacked personality. He had an awesome big man moveset. Just never connected with the fans. I'd take Albert on my roster any day.

Dusty Rhodes was a fat piece of shit who was who of the greatest ever. Countless one hour draws with Race and Flair.

I also think Bloom being head trainer is a good Public Relations move. I've never heard any bad stories about him, he never been in trouble with the law, wasn't involved with steroids or drugs. He's a safe pick.

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Is it safe to assume that Regal turned down the role of Head Coach?

Can't see why you'd appoint DeMott or anybody else if you had William Regal down there already. Universally respected, wrestled all over the world, knows the fundamentals, is already down there.

Like Gertner said Bloom is a safe pick. He's seems like he is a nice guy who will be firm but fair.

Regal might just be too old to commit to something as physical as that.

They would probably have kept DeMott if not for the sexual harassment issues. They seem to want a drill instructor-like atmosphere.

I am glad that Bill DeMott is gone. Disappointed in how WWE's investigations found the allegations to be false.

Maybe Regal already does a lot down there and isn't suited to being removed from his current duties?

They should pay Lance Storm a lot of money to leave his school and become the head trainer.

Lance Storm is great, but he was never in X-Factor

Those sexual harassment charges brought up by the Diva makes me wonder if that had anything to do with Audrey Marie and her sudden dismissal even as she was slated to be Sister Abigail (or something similar) in a bigger Wyatt Family.

From what I've read, Regal's job is to go around the world scouting talent. That's equally as important to the company.

That's the official statement. but This smells very much like Hunter or Vince going to Bill saying "You have to quit so we don't have fire you"

Man thank god Phil Jackson and bill belichek and John wooden were such great athletes and in such amazing shape or else they would have been horrible teachers

Been rumored or assumed for a while that was very likely the case. Either she complained or other people complaining on her behalf led to her getting fired.

4th person in the list:
http://lastwordonsports.com/2015/03/...erson-persist/

What a massive shame, she really had it all and it affected the original plans for the 6-8 member Wyatt Family

The worst thing about the Sexual Harassment allegations is that, depending on jurisdiction, Independent Contractors aren't protected under the law.

Which seems to go back to the misclassification of the WWE's workers.

Remember this?

Yeah, it's pretty hard to argue with that.

This is true. I read that he was a scout. It's a pretty important role. In addition to that, I'm sure Regal helps in almost every other area of a talent's development as well. To be head coach on top of that? Pretty exhausting.

I thought of her too. It's a shame, because I quite liked Audrey Marie. I thought she had a fair bit of charisma for a female talent at her level. I wonder if the company will ever reach out to her again?

I'm not even convinced their investigation was that thorough or serious

I keep hoping for some PR disaster to expose the WWE(It seems like they are really crooked) but they seem to skate by every time.

Jamie Noble and Joey Mercury should start the Stamford Investigation Agency, solely to dismiss all the accusations made to The Authority. All of the allegations made by disgruntled current employees are false and have no grounds.

They did something like that on TV once with Kane conducting an investigation.

When ever I see the words internal investigation my bullshit sense goes off especially with this company.

Bloom does have everything they ever wanted. And now he's gonna give that back. I know you hated X-Factor, but you ain't gotta look at him like that.

That song was just one more reason to hate X-pac it's like they knew it sucked.

Uncle Cracker for life :yes:

Jesus fuck christ. That's fraternity hazing shit.

Jim Ross has come out and basically written a "back in my day" blog about the issue.

yeah I am ready for the oldtimer podcasts next week taz already piped in. lets see what piper stonecold and jr say.

Yea I dunno how to feel about that. He seems to share Vince's train of thought that we're all entitled whining millennials and it seems like even though he issued disclaimers throughout the blog that he supports the shit Demott pulled as it would toughen you up.
I love J.R. but man oh man.

I think there's a couple things someone should point out to Mr. Ross.

1. Back in his day, they barely knew what a concussion was, let alone what the long term effects of them were.

2. It is no longer his day. Times change. Some things that were perfectly alright in his day, are no longer cool. Hazing is one of those things that are going the way of prohibition. There's a way to separate the wheat from the chaff, but sadistic abuse is not an acceptable way to do so.

And I'm not even one of those folks who are opposed to roughing folks up to get a point across. I had no problem with what Holly did to Capotelli. But there's a difference between stretching someone or roughing someone up and what Laughing Man was doing. I'm pretty sure Hiro Matsuda wasn't slapping his students on their broken leg.

Yeah, really disappointed in J.R.

Well then allow me to withdraw my sympathy for J.R. being mocked for his Bells Palsy cause you know people mocking your physical ailment is just to toughen you up.

JR isn't really known for his progressive attitude towards the business, but it's still disappointing to see him back these asinine actions.

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Just came in to talk about JR, but all my points have been touched on. Pretty poor form on JR's behalf.

I wonder if JR made the foolish mistake of not fully researching the extent of DeMott's actions. I don't see how anybody can defend him. This is beyond tough love and ribbing.

Not surprised he'd have an old school mentality about the idea of toughening up rookies even though he did say he was completely against the abuse part of it.

Him trying to compare Demott's abuse with Peterson's child abuse as just a generational difference thing was a really bad example.

All older wrestlers/personalities are going to defend Bill DeMott.

I dunno. Aren't there some old school tough bastards saying he went way too far?
And I keep seeing tweets defending this dude suggesting this is all made up I'm always amazed at the horrible stuff people try to justify. There is such a huge difference between being hard on people and just being an abusive, sadistic, asshole. Pretty sure people wouldn't complain if he was just hard on them.

JR's blog isn't that bad.

Supposedly Harley Race hates Demott's training system but hasn't gone out in public saying it. Some developmental wrestlers went to him asking for advice and he was pissed to hear what was going on.

It's wrestling school. It's not supposed to be boot camp. If DeMott wants to be a drill instructor he can enlist.

If all this is true, this is really despicable.

I'm all for pushing the trainees to the limits physically, as long as it doesn't become dangerous or risk the health or safety of any of the superstars or trainers. That being said, there's absolutely no need to intentionally, negligently or recklessly risk injury or re-injury to a potential superstar as has been alleged.

Also, there's no need to mock or make fun of anyone who may be different or have a different background from what's considered "normal." This is supposed to be a professional environment in a publicly traded company run by adults, not a school yard or high school locker room. That's just plain bullying, which I thought WWE was AGAINST.

Also, if someone's really struggling or just not cutting it, there's no need to mock, scream, humiliate or embarrass them for it. Simply pull them aside and discuss the situation with them. If it's that big of an issue or becomes one, then give them fair warning and release or fire the superstar.

That being said, there's just NO excuse for allowing or covering up sexual harassment or abuse by any employee or superstar.

The American Icon actually sums up the situation quite well.

Another way to look at this: imagine if when HHH tore his quad in that match, if someone with veteran status like a Harley Race came up to him in the back and started slapping him in the thigh and calling him a lazy pussy.

If you can't see a difference in tough love and sadistic abuse, you're likely doing it wrong, and General Rection seemed to not have any distinction between the two. There is no tangible lesson to be learned from being singled out and ridden constantly, training naked, or asked to do unneccessarily dangerous shit that can get you hurt in a business where your body health is already on the line in "perfect" conditions.

Chris Jericho tweeted and then deleted...

"Hey @BillDeMott is a good friend & great trainer. If u can’t handle it then quit. My training at #HartBrothers camp was 10,000 times worse!"

Classy

EC3's "response" to Chris Jericho was pretty solid. I would love to here them talk in podcast format.

I would too. I feel like Jericho deleting his tweet though was his way of saying "Nevermind, I don't wanna defend this stance" though so I doubt it will happen.

Jericho taking a page out of Guru Dave's book :yes:

He probably deleted it after the sexual hazing stuff was talked about. Being stretched by Stu was probably harder than anything Bill DeMott gave this trainees except for the sexual harassment.

Drill instructors are not allowed to slap people with concussions.

Jericho was stretched by Stu? Maybe he should file a sexual harassment suit against the Hart family.

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JR has come out again and basically said "Geez, you misunderstood me. I wasn't saying that what went down there was good -- I'm against it. I just meant that kids are pussies and need a beating occasionally and...and...fuck it."

Didn't Jim Cornette get fired for slapping Santino Marella or something? He probably should have forced him to put his ass in Katie Lea's face and he might have kept his job.

This thread is getting a bit dark, so here is some Katie Lea to brighten it up:

She is not hot bro

She is

THANK GOD

DeMott gets sensitivity training, returns as Hugh Manitarian
March 12, 2015

Former WWE trainer Bill DeMott, who left the company amid allegations of harsh and insensitive coaching methods, insists he is “a new man” after sensitivity training, and will return under the moniker Hugh Manitarian.

DeMott has been reinstated as head trainer at WWE’s Performance Centre, where he insists he will employ a “holistic, meditative, and inclusive” regimen that “empowers up-and-coming talent to embrace and nurture their inner superstars.”

Gone are the days, DeMott insists, of verbally berating opponents while they perform dozens of flat-back bumps to the point of vomitous exhaustion.

Demott, who once portrayed the character of Hugh Morris, insists that his new persona of Hugh Manitarian will encourage wrestlers to seek peaceful conflict resolution through dialogue rather than bodyslams and verbal abuse.

“Violence is never the answer,” he told a class of NXT stars this morning. “The only way to truly get ‘over’ in this world is through kindness and understanding.”

While many WWE trainees say they prefer this gentler incarnation of DeMott, some wonder how long it will be before he transforms into Hugh Jasshole.

Ew, no. She's British. Automatically makes her a 3 out of 10

Paige and the titty honking is more than a 3/10

Winter. :love: