I have that problem with the Joker and Batman in comics. Always read in Kevin Conroy's and Mark Hamill's voice's respectively without even meaning to.

I'm still hoping foolishly that Harley retains her accent. It might be one of those things that just got subtle in translation. I don't think the 'druggie pixie dreamgirl' voice is bad or not fitting, it's just that Harley accent is one of those things I would have prioritized with the actress even before costume fitting.

Yahtzee!!

Looks like a good movie Leto seems like a good Joker.

Agreed

10 minute time-out, young man.

Man of Steel was actually not critically well received. Fans and the general audiences liked it, but from a critical standpoint it was not considered to be a strong film.

The accent gripe is 100% spot on. That's probably the only thing I took away from the trailer that bothered me. Like Kalyx mentioned, maybe it was lost in translation for the trailer.

The director is coming off the ensemble film "Fury", and also is credited for "End of Watch", both being well received. So I have hope. I do think Harley should have an accent, but it's not make or break for me. We shall see.

And don't apologize for that pun. Well time and well placed.

I had my reservations about this movie,especially after the horrible 90's makeover joker pics were released, but after watching the trailer, I think I'll give the film a chance. Still not sold on the joker look,but I can let it slide if leto's performance is good.

Going solely by that trailer, this film looks shit.

Everything is shit to you, though.

That may be, but I agree with him so >:P

Don't see why Harley and Joker need facial tattoos. Joker looks like a tranny with the red lipstick.

Hope its a good movie though, Leto will do great I'm sure

It would seem Harley simply draws on her face. Her face is clean in some shots.

Margot Robbie aside, this looks shit.

But she'd make a KKK robe look good.

So Leto posted a picture of his shadow on the ground and he appears to be wearing a similar outfit to what Joker was wearing in the infamous death scene in The Killing Joke.

Obviously no one knows if it means anything, but the possibility of at least parts of The Killing Joke occurring within the framework of this movie has me a tad bit stiff in the nether regions.

What death scene in The Killing Joke?

not death scene, but shooting, my mistake.

Ah.

Well, I saw said photo, but I don't think it means anything really. Leto is a tease, like that pic:

http://www.comicbookresources.com/im...oker-a207c.jpg

But we'll see.

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Pretty sweet trailer, actually....

Have to say that it looks like it could a pretty fun movie. I didn't hear Harley's accent so I'm sure we'll hear bitching but overall it looks like it could be a blast.

Leto laughing in that tux tho.

Looks fun, don't think it will be as amazing as the concept should be though.

What a time to be alive.

Fantastic trailer.

Has the same tone to it as GOTG, which is a good thing. Looks like a blast.

Harley without the accent still irks me, but having grown up with the animated series, it's pretty much ingrained into me. Probably won't bother most other people.

Regardless, looks like a cool movie. Will likely enjoy it.

Just can't see what people are seeing in this... Maybe there's something wrong with me, but I felt like all the "humor" was really forced, and Margot Robbie just came off as... bad. Will Smith even seemed to be just phoning it in. The whole trailer felt like they were trying to ape Guardians of the Galaxy, and to me it felt like they failed. :-\

I dunno dude. Just looks fun.

Meh, just don't see it. Everything is just so ugly, and none of the actors with speaking lines in the trailer were worth a damn. Normally I can see why people like something even when I myself don't like it, but with this one I honestly can't see it. It's an enigma to me. Like I've seen tons of movies do exactly what this one is doing and get panned before the trailer even came out yet this one is getting a pass? Why? I don't get people anymore...

my fiancee watched the trailer and immediately was like "...where is harley's accent?"

she was incensed, having a long-standing love of the character

so it's not just you

but i agree, it mostly looks ok

i am hoping that the joker is not actually part of the squad; in no reality could i conceive him taking orders from anyone, even amanda waller, so i hope he's actually a wild card working against them to try and get harley out

still not sold on his look, though leto's characterisation doesn't seem as awful as it could've been. will still hold off judgment until i have seen the film in full. but the physical presentation still irks me. i know a lot of other people like it/have grown to deal with it, and i've certainly *softened* on it, but the closest he reminds me of any 'iconic' depiction of joker is when he's wearing the tux. reminds me of that well-known alex ross painting a bunch.

you probably know it anyway but this one:
http://supermantv.net/art/data/media...ross_joker.jpg

I don't feel like I absolutely have to go see it, but the action and characters look interesting enoughthat it looks like it could be a fun watch, especially as a comic fan.

Some of your criticisms may be valid but so what? This isn't a performance art piece, it's a popcorn flick. That's not to say a popcorn flick can't be held to a higher standard, but myself and I think others are at least able to relax our inner critic and look foward to this film for what it is.

looks fun enough to me

and well, i don't really have any expectations so i won't be disappointed in any case

I get where diehard fans are bitching about the "accent" as it seems a central part to the character. However, if things are played well, the accent can be overlooked.

Still very skeptical about the Leto Joker though. The laugh where he was laying in the middle of all the blades sounded great, still waiting to see how the character is done though.

I don't really care about the accent because, I mean, it already looks nothing like MY Harley Quinn. The pre-reboot version. So whatever.

Looks fun enough, but I'm mostly with Wishbone on this one. I'm kinda "bored" of the Joker, and I've never understood the appeal of Harley Quin. Don't really care for the rest of the characters.

I'll go see it anyway, since I'm a comic fan (mostly Marvel), but as other people have said, this just looks like a typical dark and gloomy DC version of Guardians of the Galaxy.

is Will smith gonna win an Oscar for this movie

He is boycotting, so he won't be there anyway.

RIP

This Oscar boycott nonsense is bullshit. Maybe if Will Smith stopped picking bad films for himself and stopped trying to make them family affairs his ass could actually win something.

#BETLivesMatter

Harley's accent isn't make or break for me but it would have been nice. She seems intact otherwise. Joker is Joker. I mean we can't wait just line him up with TDK Joker because he's almost out of context. We are never getting something like that again with Joker. Moving on.

if he didn't win for Afterearth, he doesn't stand a chance now

TDK Joker was great and all, but I wish people would stop using it as the benchmark for a good representation of the Joker. Honestly Jack Nicholson was the closest we've ever gotten to a true adaptation of the Joker in a movie, and even he wasn't as accurate as he could have been. TDK Joker was an amazing character, but he lacked a lot of what makes the Joker the Joker. Of course the Nolan films as a whole lacked a lot of what makes the Batman mythos the Batman mythos so it's no surprise that its Joker wouldn't quite hit it.

As for Leto's Joker, well, it is probably the farthest from the character we've ever seen in terms of presentation. He doesn't fit the more modern psycho monster Joker, but he doesn't fit the old school Clown Prince of Crime Joker either. Yeah, his performance might end up being decent (though given what we've seen from other characters I'm not holding my breath), but the look is just god awful. How can anyone justify that? It'd be like having Superman start rocking Jordans and wearing a big ass chain around his neck. If you're into hip-hop culture that's fine, but it has no place with these characters, period.

fixed
Hip-hop has NO PLACE in MY JOKER!!!

Get out of here Rush Limbaugh

People said the look was awful for TDK version too. People HERE hated it and look how that turned out. Plus given the rumors around this, it might not even BE the Joker... at least not the first one.

i haven't heard any rumors like that

what exactly were they sayin?

All baseless speculation without any sort of evidence at all

Hence the term 'rumor'. lol

That would be interesting.

I also haven't heard that rumor... FYI

No.... Rumours have some basis in fact.... speculation is just some guy wildly saying "hey, how about this?"

i thought there was something to do with scars on the joker's shoulders that match bullet holes in the robin costume in the bat cave? feel like there was at least some kind of "evidence" presented for it

either way, fucking hate the idea

Feathers tattoo on his arm or shoulder thing that "links" them as well.

really? duuuuumb

not exactly baseless...

That is so not how rumors work. I never even heard of rumors described this way. Ever. All my years here I never heard of a distinction between rumors and speculation. You are the first.

You are... The Progenitor.

Nah you're kinda right I was just tired and hungry.

I believe the Jason Todd/Joker rumor began with the "J" tattoo on his face and the similarity to the "J" branding in the game...two properties that are not and should not be connected in any way, shape, or form.

Lol "Rush Limbaugh" :rofl: You're one of the most ridiculous people I've seen on this forum, and that's saying something. You continue to amaze me every time you post or reply to me. Never change, bro. :y:

And honestly I could care less what people "here" thought of TDK's Joker. This forum is a mixed bag with some of the oddest (not necessarily worst mind you) opinions I've ever seen on the internet. IRL I've never met a person who thought TDK Joker looked bad after seeing the reveal of it. A couple people I know did say it looked a little forced with the smudged facepaint and ratty hair, but for the most part people were hugely surprised by how good it looked after they had bitched about Ledger's casting, something I didn't do for Ledger or Leto's casting because honestly the casting doesn't matter. Who'd have thought that Luke Skywalker would turn out to be the most iconic Joker voice of all time after all? But we're past casting now. We've seen the actual look. If you honestly don't think there's something wrong with that costume then you're an idiot, period. Even people who are supporting the movie have said that the costume is shit.

Also that "rumor" about it being Jason Todd is bullocks. Even if it does turn out to be true, which I'd be willing to bet it won't, it's still probably the dumbest thing DC could have done. Well, not really I guess. DC's live action films have already done waaaaay too much dumb shit to ever say any single act is "the worst they've ever done" at this point. What was once a series of small disasters is now a mega disaster of epic proportions lol.

I know they aren't sticking to "canon" - but wasn't Jason Todd killed off by The Joker in the comics in the 80's?

Yep, it was a pretty nasty end

So, without the whole Superboy thing, how could that rumor have any substance?

He was brought back as an antagonist in the comics as well.

Right, but brought back only because of what Superboy did with the whole alternate reality thing?

Maybe I am remembering it wrong.

Think that Superboy thing was retconned pretty quick to be just "Lazarus pit"

Oh..... pfft.

The trailer looked awful, the only thing they did right was using Queens song.

Yeah, they retconned that to it just being the Lazarus Pit that brought him back.

well like everything else you dont experience "IRL"...

Not enough hookers I guess.

Considering the only people I've ever heard bitch about TDK Joker's look are a few diehards on comic book forums and Youtube, and now apparently you I'm inclined to believe that only muties like yourself thought it looked bad.

I'd be inclined to agree with you but A) you're you and B) I didn't like the choice of song honestly.

Actually I liked the look... I was referencing your virginity

Oh come on now you can do better than that. I mean the "you're a virgin" card is sooooo overplayed. Where's the homophobic comment? What about talking down to me by calling me "kiddo?" Poor form, dude. 3/10

Don't give up though. You can get better at this. I Bo-lieve in you. :y:

Pillow biting dick licking Faggot.

Wish granted

#meanestPoster 2016

let's not totally ignore the arkham knight option too, where joker didn't actually kill Jason but tormented him and broke him mentally to turn him against batman - not out of the realm of possibility that they'd just rip that idea off too to explain it. like joker kidnaps jason, makes bruce believe he is dead but in reality is keeping him somewhere, convincing him that batman doesn't care enough to save him, that joker's the only one who really gives a shit about him, something happens to joker, jason swears to avenge him by taking up the mantle etc

i'm not saying that would be any better bc i still hate the concept of jason as joker but it's a plausible road for them to take

You forgot the "kiddo" part, but I'll excuse it since you were creative enough to add the "pillow biting" part. 9/10 :y:

Im sorry I should have been more thorough on the point.... The premise was things you have NOT experienced IRL. You got lost. Its not your fault.

Damn, Reavant, you're not even trying are you? I'm disappointed in you, young man. :(

jesus christ children we are TRYING to discuss a movie here

Why do people take fun movies and make then so seriouz? It's an action flick. I am sure there are more important things you can be researching rather than if Joker had his makeup a certain way in the 4th remake of the comic books that is the same as this movie.

With that said, this movie looks good.

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Went from really being excited for the film. To after seeing the newest trailer,being were I will wait on Blu ray to see it. Bad enough they got no talent Will Smith in it. But I hate this new look for Harley.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/ar...add-more-jokes

REPORT: "Suicide Squad" Undergoing Major Reshoots To Increase Humor

Heh, idiots. Took em a while to understand they were getting gritty to the point of absurd.

Yes, because the studio stepping in months before release has always yielded good results. A movie doesn't have to be fun and humorous to be good. It just has to be written, acted abs directed well.

We shall see but this sounds like a fairly bad idea.

They just try to emulate Marvel on every step.

This sounds like it was inspired by the success of Deadpool.

Apparently they have been doing "massive reshoots" ever since they heard the positive response to the trailer....

Because apparently the trailer didn't really match the "tone" of the movie, and pretty much all the "lighthearted" or "humorous" stuff was literally in the trailer...... so after they heard that people loved the trailer, they started working on trying to make the movie's tone actually match the trailer....

Which I guess is what the article Sixx linked basically says. Which is the article I read earlier today.

So, yeah.

Oh, I only read the title.

That's how I roll.

I think combo of success of the trailer, success of Deadpool, and the criticisms of Batman v Superman.

Hope they don't over do it. I like the darker tone to the DC world but a movie with Joker in it should have a good amount of humor. Just hope they don't try to match Marvels cheekyness.

I just hope it's not butchered. I could care less about tone so long as it's good. If BvS was a good movie the tone wouldn't be an issue.

Yea agree about the tone. Hope they're not overreacting with that. Just make a good fucking movie/story

Now that BvS have come and gone it is going to take strong positive word of mouth to get me to see this

Because Zack Snyder directed this too.

More so because the studio behind this movie just put out a major turd and blatant money grab. It's not going to be uncommon for people to hold off on a movie related to BvS. Warner has to win some fans back.

My excuse to see this. My 7 year old nephew asked me to take him, and I promised him I would.

Someone gets it.

Its under the same people. I have the same reservations everytime i see something on it. I have the same people telling me I'll be wrong.

Their franchise got a free purchase from me with BvS despite my better judgement simply because they deserved a fair shake. They dont have that anymore.