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The Rogerer 05-03-2016 08:44 AM

Didn't they slash down the 3DS to make a loss on it in the first year? It had a rough start.

road doggy dogg 05-03-2016 08:55 AM

The library for the 3DS sucked at the start which I think hurt it more

Hope they're making the right gamble with NX by delaying it so it has a good launch lineup

Big Vic 05-03-2016 03:59 PM

The time between this gaming generation and the next seems very short.

#BROKEN Hasney 05-03-2016 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Vic (Post 4806408)
The time between this gaming generation and the next seems very short.

How so? Nintendo are doing their usual 5ish year cycle and Sony and MS are going to lengthen it with stopgap spec bump consoles. If anything, it'll be longer.

The Rogerer 05-03-2016 04:33 PM

The Wii U had a fantastic attempt at a launch lineup, but there's only so much they could do, it was simultaneously impressive and yet rubbish. Their selling point for the NX could very well be 'Get the new thing with Zelda'

road doggy dogg 05-03-2016 04:39 PM

Or if they somehow wrangle in some 3rd-party support, that alone would vastly bump the lineup

Emperor Smeat 05-03-2016 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by The Rogerer (Post 4806284)
Didn't they slash down the 3DS to make a loss on it in the first year? It had a rough start.

Yes although that might have been more of them being way too overconfident at the $250 price tag being something people would easily accept for handhelds when it was quickly debunked by consumers. Could argue the same for the Vita as a partial reason for its huge sales struggles.
$200 and less seems to be the sweet spot for gaming handhelds regardless of the tech or power.

Only reason they didn't do the same for the Wii U was because of the tablet eating up too much of the console's cost. Would probably have been even slower for them to recoup lost costs had they given it a similar massive price cut. If I remember correctly, the tablet ate up almost a third of production costs (around $80+) while they were losing around $50-$60 per console at launch.

The Rogerer 05-04-2016 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by road doggy dogg (Post 4806421)
Or if they somehow wrangle in some 3rd-party support, that alone would vastly bump the lineup

Who? At least for the Wii U they could line up a series of games for people to easily and quickly port. I feel like EA and Ubisoft won't touch them with a bargepole anymore, Konami and Capcom are dead. Any other game worth touching will be a couple of years down the road from now.

Unless they push a big indie initiative, and even then, those sorts of projects are visible a couple of years before they come out. There was talk they'd go with Unity, but it struggles enough on PS4.

Big Vic 05-04-2016 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Hollywood Hasney (Post 4806416)
How so? Nintendo are doing their usual 5ish year cycle and Sony and MS are going to lengthen it with stopgap spec bump consoles. If anything, it'll be longer.

I've been hearing stuff about a new playstation, Didn't the PS4 come out in 2014?

#BROKEN Hasney 05-05-2016 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Big Vic (Post 4806880)
I've been hearing stuff about a new playstation, Didn't the PS4 come out in 2014?

Yup and it'll be announced at E3, but it's still a PS4. Basically, both the new one and the current one will play exactly the same games, but the new one will look better or have a better frame rate. It won't have exclusive games of its own.

It's like a New 3DS basically.

#BROKEN Hasney 05-05-2016 09:47 AM

There will be no Nintendo Direct at E3 at all, so they're just bringing Zelda playable and there will be no other announcements at all.

Treehouse livestream will also just be Zelda.

Ahahaha

drave 05-05-2016 10:16 AM

Nintendo makes me sad :(

Emperor Smeat 05-05-2016 06:31 PM

NX rumored to be using 3DS-like carts for games based on a report by Japanese financial analysis firm Money-Link.

Claimed the carts are currently being produced by manufacturer Macronix which can hold 32GB of data and could end up proving a recent disc-less console patent by Nintendo last year being true.

What tipped off the analyst firm in regards to carts likely being used was from a recent financial report by the manufacturer which goes against their typical reporting habits.

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The memory company also increased their projected profits in the fourth quarter, which Money-Link notes is abnormal for the company. Usually, Macronix has a downturn of profits in that time period, but Chairman of Macronix Wu Miin said that a quantity of orders from “an important customer, Nintendo, will have critical impact” during the usual slump.

The order is also in line with a patent filed by Nintendo last year that insinuated the company would move away from disc-based media for its next system. The lack of a disc drive is also in-line with rumors that Nintendo wants their next console to be a hybrid handheld and mobile device.
http://www.egmnow.com/articles/news/...w-report-says/

drave 05-05-2016 09:33 PM

but...... why? :|

#BROKEN Hasney 05-06-2016 04:29 AM

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Originally Posted by drave (Post 4807305)
but...... why? :|

Because there's some element of a portable thing to this. That's what that'll probably be used for and disc or digital downloads used for the full console experience.

Even then, 32GB isn't far off the size of a blu ray and if it's faster and around the same price, then it might be the way to go.

Destor 05-06-2016 01:18 PM

SO is the next Zelda 100% going to be on the NX? because if it is I will wait for it to drop before I buy Zelda, I have no issues buying a WiiU JUST to play Zelda but if it will be on both then I might as well wait.

#BROKEN Hasney 05-06-2016 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Destor (Post 4807472)
SO is the next Zelda 100% going to be on the NX? because if it is I will wait for it to drop before I buy Zelda, I have no issues buying a WiiU JUST to play Zelda but if it will be on both then I might as well wait.

Yup, they've specifically said it's coming out on both.

Destor 05-06-2016 02:39 PM

That seals it then: the WiiU is the first Nintendo I've never owned

Big Vic 05-06-2016 03:21 PM

Can I have your virtual boy plz :)

Destor 05-06-2016 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Vic (Post 4807546)
Can I have your virtual boy plz :)

It's at the bottom of a landfill I'm sure :'(

drave 05-06-2016 03:50 PM

Wii U seems like it wasn't around very long.

road doggy dogg 05-06-2016 04:29 PM

It didn't do good at all

#BROKEN Hasney 05-06-2016 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by drave (Post 4807554)
Wii U seems like it wasn't around very long.

Nintendo consoles last 5 years typically. Wii U will be 4 and a half and the Wii was 6, but its not a massive difference to their schedule.

Emperor Smeat 05-06-2016 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by drave (Post 4807554)
Wii U seems like it wasn't around very long.

Going to end up being around half a year shorter than the average Nintendo console cycle but pretty much had replacement rumors going on since about a year after its launch.

People really wanted Nintendo to pull a Sega with the console which would have put them in worse shape with the NX in regards to developers and retailers.

drave 05-06-2016 09:05 PM

4 and a half, really? Guess I just don't remember hearing much about it at all :(

Really loved Nintendo growing up.

#BROKEN Hasney 05-07-2016 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by drave (Post 4807694)
4 and a half, really? Guess I just don't remember hearing much about it at all :(

Really loved Nintendo growing up.

Honestly, the thing just went under everyone's radar. My ex who owned pretty much every Nintendo console from the N64 to the Wii asked what it was when she saw it. Those who even did hear about it thought it might be an add on for the Wii.

Hope they knock it out of the park with the NX, but I'm not exactly holding my breath. Not been the greatest start.

Droford 05-07-2016 11:23 AM

I like the idea of cartridges if space is left on them for downloaded patches.

#BROKEN Hasney 05-07-2016 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Droford (Post 4807870)
I like the idea of cartridges if space is left on them for downloaded patches.

It would have to have some sort of internal storage anyway. They wouldn't get away from the download shop.

Big Vic 05-09-2016 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Hollywood Hasney (Post 4807780)
Honestly, the thing just went under everyone's radar. My ex who owned pretty much every Nintendo console from the N64 to the Wii asked what it was when she saw it. Those who even did hear about it thought it might be an add on for the Wii.

Hope they knock it out of the park with the NX, but I'm not exactly holding my breath. Not been the greatest start.

Had bad marketing people thought it was just an upgrade or an add on to the Wii, some people just thought it was a controller.

I only bought of for Mario Maker and Splatoon I think. Still haven't purchased splatoon yet though.

#BROKEN Hasney 05-16-2016 10:45 AM

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Interviewer: It seems more to me that the NX will have an effect on the Wii U due to the fact that both will be consoles.
Kimishima: I suppose it can be seen that way. However, the NX is neither the successor to the Wii U nor to the 3DS. It's a new way of playing games, which I think will have a larger impact than the Wii U, but I don't feel it's a pure replacement for the Wii U.
Yeah, there's going to be a gimmick....

Also, there were reports that it's not using x86 and maybe using the same Android chips NVidia produce to give it about the power of an XBox 1. There's now so many conflicting rumours that I just want to get to the announcement already.

Big Vic 05-16-2016 12:53 PM

Hopefully it will be a service like Netflix :D

Emperor Smeat 05-16-2016 04:44 PM

Sounds like what they said prior to the DS' launch about it not being a real successor and as its own thing. Only later did it become the official successor to the Gameboy line once it was successful.

Either that or because its rumored to be a hybrid, Nintendo doesn't think it fits in either line for direct lineage.

drave 05-16-2016 09:01 PM

If it isn't "VR" and it is a gimmick, they can GTFO

#BROKEN Hasney 05-17-2016 03:07 AM

I'm pretty sure it's not going to be VR. That would have leaked by now.

drave 05-17-2016 06:56 AM

Yea, which is why the can GTFO.


RIP Nintendo

Sepholio 05-18-2016 02:13 PM

If its not significantly more powerful than base model XB1 and PS4 then they are wasting their time. One big reason for the failure of Wii U is that it is so inferior to its competition and didn't have a good enough gimmick like the original Wii to make up for it. I love my Wii U for certain games, but if those games were on another system then I'd 100% choose it over the Wii U.

#BROKEN Hasney 05-18-2016 02:31 PM

I only buy a Nintendo console for Nintendo games anyway, so I'd be in the same boat. No stupid gimmick and backwards compatability and I'll likely be there day one... But the latter is looking less and less likely.

Destor 05-19-2016 12:03 AM

I buy nintendo to play zelda, and then knce i have it inpick up other 1st party IPs. Honestly I wish theyd get out of the console game.

Sepholio 05-19-2016 03:24 PM

Maybe Nintendo and Sega should merge and create the ultimate failed console, the SaturnU.

Big Vic 05-19-2016 03:25 PM

Wii U > GameCube, IMO

Destor 05-19-2016 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Vic (Post 4812969)
Wii U > GameCube, IMO

Thems fighting words :mad:

Big Vic 05-19-2016 03:40 PM

Gamecube had 1 "killer app"

Wii U has 2, also you can play Wii games.

Destor 05-19-2016 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Vic (Post 4812978)
Gamecube had 1 "killer app"

Wii U has 2, also you can play Wii games.

I dont even know how to respond to this, the library was great.


Enteranl Darkness
Sunshine
Wind Waker
Mario Party (insert no. here)
Double Dash
DoR1&2 get my vote for best non-no mercy wrestling games ever
Fire Emblem
Luigi's mansion
paper mario 1000 year door
star fox adventures (unsung zelda clone IT WAS GREAT)
Rogue Squadren 2 (& kinda 3)
All the mario sports games were gold


Not to mention is was still getting cross platform games (except you got them WITH NO LOAD TIMES) so you only missed exclusives

Savio 05-27-2016 12:54 PM

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Fignuts 05-28-2016 09:11 PM

Resident Evil 4 was a gc exclusive for quite a while. Skyward sword and Twilight Princess also great.

Thwre was this mech battle game that was a lot of fun that doesn't get anywhere ner the attention it deserves. So overlooked I forgot the name.

DAMN iNATOR 05-29-2016 02:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 4817469)
Resident Evil 4 was a gc exclusive for quite a while. Skyward sword and Twilight Princess also great.

Thwre was this mech battle game that was a lot of fun that doesn't get anywhere ner the attention it deserves. So overlooked I forgot the name.

Custom Robo?

#BROKEN Hasney 07-26-2016 09:32 AM

Eurogamer are reporting it is a hybrid system that is a handheld that can be docked to the TV, using NVidia Tegra, possibly a newer Pascal based one and using cartridges up to 32GB at launch.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/20...le-controllers

drave 07-26-2016 01:48 PM

Meh.

#BROKEN Hasney 07-26-2016 07:11 PM

If it is the Pascal based Tegra X2, it'll be more powerful than a PS4 or XB1 and yet be portable. It's not too crazy because it is supposed to be a mobile chip.

If its X1... Well, its still more powerful than the Wii U at least.

drave 07-26-2016 08:21 PM

Power means nothing anymore, to be honest. But I've always been in the crowd that favors the experience rather than ZOMG 60fps or GTFO

Emperor Smeat 08-04-2016 06:16 PM

In terms of games, a recent report by MVC hinted at Nintendo repairing ties with Ubisoft to ensure stronger support for the NX.

Also teased Nintendo is planning on releasing a new major Mario and Pokemon game within the first 6 months of the NX's launch.

Quote:

The site reports that Nintendo has not only secured strong third-party support from WB, Activision, Ubisoft, Square Enix, and Sega (where have we heard that before?), but it's also going to make a big first-party push too, in addition to Zelda: Breath of the Wild. Apparently, Game Freak is developing a new Pokemon game for the system, as well as a new Mario.
https://www.destructoid.com/report-n...h-378527.phtml
http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/pok-m...ine-up/0170678

#BROKEN Hasney 09-07-2016 05:56 AM

So what it sounds like is a:

6-7" tablet type screen with controllers that bolt onto the sides and 720p for the handheld. The controller can disconnect from the screen and connect together as a wireless controller. Based on descriptions, be something like this:

http://i.imgur.com/DWSRjyX.png

A TV-out/dock for home console gaming outputting out at 4k (games probably won't render at that though)
Uses cartridges up to 32GB
Dev kits are region free. Hoping that retail units are too.

Now, for the most recent news. There's an official Splatoon tournament happening in October and the prize? A Nintendo NX. I'd have to imagine that it would at least be revealed what the hell it is by then.

Big Vic 09-07-2016 08:22 AM

Wonder if NX will be the final name.

#BROKEN Hasney 09-07-2016 08:33 AM

It won't be, much like Revolution and Dolphin.

Big Vic 09-07-2016 08:54 AM

I hope not, don't they usually release the real name by now?

#BROKEN Hasney 09-07-2016 08:55 AM

Nah, they'll announce the real name when they actually unveil the system. Still holding out hope it'll be this month.

Emperor Smeat 09-07-2016 10:29 AM

Might be as early as next week since a couple of reports teased it occurring right before or during the Tokyo Game Show event.

Emperor Smeat 09-08-2016 06:11 PM

Scratch that since a new report from the Wall Street Journal is now teasing early October as the official debut date for the NX.

Assuming its true, maybe Nintendo didn't want anything else from the Tokyo Game Show to share the media spotlight with the NX had it occurred next week. Also could be entirely related to them wanting to pull another "The Wizard" moment by using the upcoming Splatoon tournament for its official debut.

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/nin.../1100-6443403/

Emperor Smeat 09-13-2016 05:46 PM

More signs pointing to the rumor of the NX using carts popped up after a recent trademark for Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild included references to game cartridges.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">New Zelda: Breath of the Wild trademark info further confirms game carts for NX <a href="https://t.co/AirCxl2rj5">https://t.co/AirCxl2rj5</a> <a href="https://t.co/yQkN3z3tDo">pic.twitter.com/yQkN3z3tDo</a></p>&mdash; AllGamesDelta (@AllGamesDelta) <a href="https://twitter.com/AllGamesDelta/status/775421469765632000">September 12, 2016</a></blockquote>
<script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

https://www.destructoid.com/zelda-br...g-386435.phtml

Emperor Smeat 09-19-2016 05:30 PM

NX rumored to be launching during the week of March 4th if a recent release date for Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild is any indication.

https://www.destructoid.com/zelda-br...h-387705.phtml

#BROKEN Hasney 09-20-2016 04:35 AM

Bunch of retailers are heading to Nintendo Europe in Germany for an announcement within days.

https://media.giphy.com/media/a8GOUGGMCOSIM/giphy.gif

Emperor Smeat 09-23-2016 06:18 PM

According to recent reports, test production runs of the NX have started so very likely leaks of the console are going to get released if Nintendo doesn't make an official announcement soon. Foxcom has a pretty leaky history when it comes to electronic devices.

Also rumored is the battery life for the handheld portion likely will be poor because of the stuff it will be doing.

Also rumored to unlikely suffer a production delay unless something really drastic occurs during the test/trial run like with the Xbox One and issues with its early chips.

http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20160922PD207.html
https://arcadegirl64.wordpress.com/2...al-nx-product/

#BROKEN Hasney 09-27-2016 02:16 PM

Destructoid have a story saying Nintendo might be funding Beyond Good and Evil 2 for the NX

https://www.destructoid.com/rumor-ni...l-346059.phtml

Emperor Smeat 10-09-2016 01:08 AM

According to a supposed retailer source who has been vetted on Reddit's NX board, NX is rumored to be getting priced at $300 with no less than 4 games guaranteed to be available at launch and one to be a Mario game.

Also rumored to be having a bundled option for $400 and retailer demos to arrive by February. NX also rumored to support 4K for media streaming but not for gameplay.

NX could end up as the console's official name since retailers are still in the dark for its name and recent batch of promotional stuff still had the NX name on it.

Reddit's NX board mods are doing everything possible to keep their vetted source secret since some of the leaks if legit could cause possible legal issues against the source and/or retailer.

There is a catch though, Reddit's NX board mods still state its possible this new stuff could end up being fake even though their source has been given top verification status. Has to do with previous incidents of high level sources revealing stuff that was quickly debunked.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1291439

Emperor Smeat 10-19-2016 08:21 PM

Supposedly Nintendo will be officially debuting the NX tomorrow according to several sources. Main reason is due to Nintendo wanting some early info to be released prior to the investors meeting occuring later this month.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1296848

#BROKEN Hasney 10-20-2016 03:30 AM

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Be among the first to discover #NX. Watch the Preview Trailer at 7am PT/10am ET!
Don't expect much though, it's 3 minutes long.

#BROKEN Hasney 10-20-2016 04:06 AM

http://i.imgur.com/OUaCHF0.png

Also, according to a bunch of tweets, at least 3 devs are gonna announce their game after this reveal. So lotsa news right off the bat.


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