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Lock Jaw 03-06-2017 09:14 PM

A little girl killed a lot of people in Kick-Ass....... not the first time for little girl ultra violence.......

Ruien 03-06-2017 09:17 PM

Didn't see Kick Ass so I can't respond.

Kalyx triaD 03-06-2017 11:20 PM

Is the end of opening weekend not sufficient enough to start posting freely?

Damian Rey 2.0 03-06-2017 11:32 PM

Idgaf honestly. I'm gonna see it anyways.

Destor 03-06-2017 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Kalyx triaD (Post 4938325)
Is the end of opening weekend not sufficient enough to start posting freely?

Not in my opinion..im an opening weekend guy but not everyone drops everything to see a new movie. Parents more tham others... A week or two is fair.

Lock Jaw 03-06-2017 11:59 PM

I think what's fair is that people should be smart enough to stay out of the official thread after the movie comes out (no offense). I'd freely talk about everything if it wasn't the "general rule" not to...... so even though I would do things differently, I usually try to keep it "vague" or use spoiler tags in deference to the masses........

Destor 03-07-2017 12:01 AM

Also: 88mil domestic 247mil global for opening weekend. Already earned nearly 2.5x its budget.

Should see continued ticket sales witht the strong critical reaction and word of mouth past the 4 week marker so Logan is going to be a huge success.

Destor 03-07-2017 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 4938337)
I think what's fair is that people should be smart enough to stay out of the official thread after the movie comes out (no offense). I'd freely talk about everything if it wasn't the "general rule" not to...... so even though I would do things differently, I usually try to keep it "vague" or use spoiler tags in deference to the masses........

I agree with you on all counts.

Personally it takes 2 seconds to add tags so what does it hurt? Ya know?

Kalyx triaD 03-07-2017 02:54 AM

My question is: What is somebody expecting to read in a movie thread post-release? Like okay here I am some guy, I see _________ thread, it's been out a few days, and what...?

I'm to be reading news site type reviews where they have a professional obligation to be vague? This is a social forum. Why am I enacting a spoiler tag post release? It is a small thing, effortless, I get that. BUT: what is somebody doing hoppin in a movie thread post release? Why? I'm not saying they have to see it super instant, but I avoided the CW threads, some nearly seasons behind, because I'm not gonna find out what went down with Barry in a post. I respect that people could speak freely and it's on me if I hop in there.

But sure, you're the guy with the big buttons and it's your call. But it's a stupid call. The crux here is what possible interest does one have opening a thread while also not wanting to read spoilers. We'll have a whole page of spoiler tag posts over this.

Rammsteinmad 03-07-2017 06:04 AM

Yeah fuck spoilers after the movie's released.

Even if it takes minimal effort to add a spoiler tag, it takes even less effort to not click on a thread.

Destor 03-07-2017 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Kalyx triaD (Post 4938358)
My question is: What is somebody expecting to read in a movie thread post-release? Like okay here I am some guy, I see _________ thread, it's been out a few days, and what...?

I'm to be reading news site type reviews where they have a professional obligation to be vague? This is a social forum. Why am I enacting a spoiler tag post release? It is a small thing, effortless, I get that. BUT: what is somebody doing hoppin in a movie thread post release? Why? I'm not saying they have to see it super instant, but I avoided the CW threads, some nearly seasons behind, because I'm not gonna find out what went down with Barry in a post. I respect that people could speak freely and it's on me if I hop in there.

But sure, you're the guy with the big buttons and it's your call. But it's a stupid call. The crux here is what possible interest does one have opening a thread while also not wanting to read spoilers. We'll have a whole page of spoiler tag posts over this.

I domt disagree with argument, it just isnt that big of an inconvenience to be considerate

Lock Jaw 03-07-2017 08:21 AM

I could use those 2 seconds to get a near pinfall on somebody

Destor 03-07-2017 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 4938381)
I could use those 2 seconds to get a near pinfall on somebody

Winners win. 2.9 is for chumps

Kalyx triaD 03-07-2017 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destor (Post 4938377)
I domt disagree with argument, it just isnt that big of an inconvenience to be considerate

Perhaps the guy who didn't see the movie ought to be considerate? Let's be real here most people will see the movie. So you got 7 guys using spoiler tags for the 3 guys who didn't see the movie, and then only 1 of them clicks the thread (for some reason).

It would be easier to establish; Post release the thread will have spoilers. This is actually one of the reasons I posted exact released dates when I was handling movie threads.

In fact lol, I did a long post about how handle exactly these situations that went mostly ignored. And here we are.

Destor 03-07-2017 12:24 PM

Or just chill and I'll keep doing what im doing..?

Kalyx triaD 03-07-2017 12:37 PM

Do I look Alaskan?

Destor 03-07-2017 12:43 PM

You must be a pacific islander CAUSE YOU SO SALTY

Kalyx triaD 03-07-2017 04:56 PM

Salt's all over the ocean, right.....?

Simple Fan 03-07-2017 06:46 PM

Just seen it. Honestly I liked all the action but everything else all most put me to sleep.

Lock Jaw 03-07-2017 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 4937917)
I've heard of two X-Men films coming up....

New Mutants, which focuses on the "New Mutants" team/concept from the comic book. Not sure where in the timeline this is supposed to take place.

X:Men - Supernova - Which is rumoured to be another take on doing Dark Phoenix. Continues from Apocalypse.

Either way, the rumours say that Xavier/Magneto and that whole rivalry/feud/friendship will be pushed way into the background.

They are also working on an "X-Force" film, and Deadpool was just confirmed to be a part of it......

Destor 03-07-2017 09:57 PM

I could really get into an xforce movie. More more Munn plz.

Kalyx triaD 03-08-2017 02:22 AM

I'd think it would be classic Xforce.

Destor 03-08-2017 08:05 AM

It would def be marquee X-Force with no true to comic team. Just a best of.

XL 03-10-2017 06:39 PM

Just got back. Great stuff. Love the parallel to 'Shane'.

I went dark on the thread from release until tonight. It's not that hard.

Damian Rey 2.0 03-10-2017 11:09 PM

Finally seeing this tomorrow. Can hardly wait

Simple Fan 03-14-2017 07:21 PM

Ok Destor has got me thinking about this movie again and I really didn't say what bothered me about it in my post viewing post.

First like I said once X-23 started talking I lost interest in her. Would have been great if she didn't say anything until she repeated the lines from Shane.

Also to be 2029 there wasn't a lot of futuristic cars other than Logan's limo and the non driving self driving cargo haulers, he buys a 13year old truck that looks brand new, and there is 50 year old Chevy Suburban and a Ford Bronco in excellent condition.

I didn't like the animantium poisoning either, especially after it was revealed that the corn syrup was suppressing the mutant gene. Logan drank enough whiskey that should have caused his powers to start to slip.

How did the comic book come to be true? Like no explanation of that at all. Who got the other kids there? What's in Canada for them? A lot of questions for a movie that's supposed to be an ending but I guess they could answer some in future X-23movies.

I loved the action though and the little girl was a bad ass up until she started talking. She just seemed more savage without speaking was more annoying afterwards. I think they over thought somethings and underthought others and it seemed like it was rushed being put together to me.

I think all the positive reviews about it got me expecting it to be great but it just wasn't for me. I'd rank it as the 3rd best X Men movie after Days of Future Past and Apocalypse. Not bad just not well thought out in my opinion.

Kalyx triaD 03-14-2017 10:52 PM

To be honest movies that depict the future as 'whatever not much changed' are quite realistic to me. Felt like that with Looper as well.

Simple Fan 03-14-2017 11:23 PM

It wasn't a big deal I just found the Chevy Suburban and Ford Broncos to be odd choices for the movie. Would have liked to seen the Ram beat up a little bit more than just needing new tires. He rolled up in it and I almost forgot we were in 2029 for a second, I was like damn he got a good deal but then remembered it was a 12 year old truck.

Destor 03-14-2017 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Kalyx triaD (Post 4941724)
To be honest movies that depict the future as 'whatever not much changed' are quite realistic to me. Felt like that with Looper as well.

Forgot all about Looper...really dug that movie.

Wishbone 03-15-2017 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Simple Fan (Post 4941351)
Ok Destor has got me thinking about this movie again and I really didn't say what bothered me about it in my post viewing post.

First like I said once X-23 started talking I lost interest in her. Would have been great if she didn't say anything until she repeated the lines from Shane.

Also to be 2029 there wasn't a lot of futuristic cars other than Logan's limo and the non driving self driving cargo haulers, he buys a 13year old truck that looks brand new, and there is 50 year old Chevy Suburban and a Ford Bronco in excellent condition.

I didn't like the animantium poisoning either, especially after it was revealed that the corn syrup was suppressing the mutant gene. Logan drank enough whiskey that should have caused his powers to start to slip.

How did the comic book come to be true? Like no explanation of that at all. Who got the other kids there? What's in Canada for them? A lot of questions for a movie that's supposed to be an ending but I guess they could answer some in future X-23movies.

I loved the action though and the little girl was a bad ass up until she started talking. She just seemed more savage without speaking was more annoying afterwards. I think they over thought somethings and underthought others and it seemed like it was rushed being put together to me.

I think all the positive reviews about it got me expecting it to be great but it just wasn't for me. I'd rank it as the 3rd best X Men movie after Days of Future Past and Apocalypse. Not bad just not well thought out in my opinion.

1) Personally I didn't mind her talking. She did fine with her acting and felt like a real little girl, especially when she was arguing with Logan over the comic book. To each their own though. This point is very subjective after all.

2) That's realistic. The real world doesn't change that much. I mean honestly 2029 is just a little over 20 years from now. Look at the differences between 1980 and 2000. You'd see differences but not enough that you'd think "the future" when seeing it. Cars were still cars, etc, etc. I find it hard to believe we'll advance very far in the next 20 years even in our world and we haven't been hit with multiple world threatening events and a mutant race war.

3) If they'd switched it to the corn syrup people would be laughing their asses off. That's a stupid explanation for Wolverine dying. What's more the adamantium poisoning is pulled strait from the comics, and it makes completely sense from a biological standpoint. If you coat someone's bones in any substance that doesn't breath their body can't perform basic functions like replenishing blood. The fact that Wolverine's healing factor was able to keep up with what the adamantium was likely doing to his system in the first place was pretty impressive in and of itself.

4) I'd say it's safe to say it's a group of mutants and mutant sympathizers that are waiting in Canada for them. There are quite a few noteworthy Canadian mutants in the X-Men comics and I wouldn't be surprised if some of them were brought into this timeline's continuity as members of this group. It makes sense that Canada would be more supportive of mutants as well since in our own real world Canada tends to be extremely progressive compared to the United States. I'd also argue that it's that same group who likely built the little shack where the kids were staying. They've probably been using it as a rest stop for refugees for a while I'd imagine. As for the kids getting there, well, I'd imagine there were other nurses and doctors helping with the escape plan. I mean I can't imagine one woman pulling it off even if all she took was X-23. They probably orchestrated an escape and split the kids up. It's likely there were even more kids at the start that just didn't make it. I'll admit it would have been nice to know more on this particular subject, but it's not really an important piece to the plot.

Overall I think you're probably just the kind of person that gets annoyed around kids period (so a large portion of the population.) X-23 honestly wasn't any more annoying than any real kid I've ever met. In fact she was less annoying than many of them even when she was shouting. Again though that's all subjective. The girl definitely did extremely well at looking fierce, and her silent shtick did add to that in some way, but I don't personally feel like her talking really hurt it any either.

Ol Dirty Dastard 03-15-2017 11:06 AM

Plan didn't like it because a little midget was taking out men twice her size.

Ol Dirty Dastard 03-15-2017 11:07 AM

how could anyone find Laura annoying? Even when she started speaking she was just an angry, traumatized child.

Plus he liked apocalypse better than Logan so... uh... I dunno, you do you dude.

Heyman 03-15-2017 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Wishbone (Post 4941943)
1)
2) That's realistic. The real world doesn't change that much. I mean honestly 2029 is just a little over 20 years from now.

Sounds to me like you've been taking one too many cocks to the face my friend.

#Mathematics101

Destor 03-15-2017 11:40 AM

haha

Simple Fan 03-15-2017 11:42 AM

I liked the little girl I just thought they made her two different people in the movie. She was a bad ass savage to start with which was awesome. Then she started talking and was a total different person. Why did she not talk at the beginning, it certainly wasn't because she was scared.

She wasn't even my least favorite character though, Professor X was. Thought he was pointless in the movie. Was thrilled when X-24 killed him, Logan should have done that after he killed the X Men really. What's the point of keeping him alive?

Simple Fan 03-15-2017 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Dastardly Dale Newstead (Post 4941967)
Plan didn't like it because a little midget was taking out men twice her size.

Quite the opposite, that was the best part about her.

Kalyx triaD 03-15-2017 12:13 PM

As a formally mute kid and still extremely quiet throughout my childhood (~6yo) I believe Laura didn't talk because a) she still wasn't sure she could trust Logan, b) the less you talk the more you're listening and observing, and c) she simply didn't need to. When she finally spoke it was after they lost Charles and she literally dragged his ass to a clinic. While the scene was played almost for laughs and they had a fight, this was the point she felt comfortable enough with him to talk.

Simple Fan 03-15-2017 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Dastardly Dale Newstead (Post 4941968)
how could anyone find Laura annoying? Even when she started speaking she was just an angry, traumatized child.

Plus he liked apocalypse better than Logan so... uh... I dunno, you do you dude.

I was more annoyed with her talking all together. It wasn't what she was saying just the fact that she was talking after being mute the whole movie for no reason.

As for Apocalypse I'd just re watched it before going and seeing Logan. I didn't think Apocalypse was all that good to begin with but it made more sense than Logan did for me.

Simple Fan 03-15-2017 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Kalyx triaD (Post 4941982)
As a formally mute kid and still extremely quiet throughout my childhood (~6yo) I believe Laura didn't talk because a) she still wasn't sure she could trust Logan, b) the less you talk the more you're listening and observing, and c) she simply didn't need to. When she finally spoke it was after they lost Charles and she literally dragged his ass to a clinic. While the scene was played almost for laughs and they had a fight, this was the point she felt comfortable enough with him to talk.

I can get that it's when she felt comfortable with him but they lead you and Logan to think she was a mute. I was in the same mind as Logan and when she spoke I was kind of I angry at her like Logan was about it, only I wasn't as forgiving I guess.

Ruien 03-15-2017 12:59 PM

I never figured she was a mute because she never did sign language.

Rammsteinmad 03-15-2017 01:04 PM

You guys are overthinking this.

JimmyMess 03-15-2017 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Rammsteinmad (Post 4942002)
You guys are overthinking this.


Destor 03-15-2017 01:17 PM

Why would you assume she was mute just because she didnt speak? lol wut

Destor 03-15-2017 01:17 PM

:lol:

Simple Fan 03-15-2017 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destor (Post 4942006)
Why would you assume she was mute just because she didnt speak? lol wut

Well that is a sign. Logan even thought she was a mute until she talked.

Destor 03-15-2017 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simple Fan (Post 4942025)
Well that is a sign. Logan even thought she was a mute until she talked.

Well no, he thought she didnt speak english

Simple Fan 03-15-2017 02:00 PM

Maybe but she hadn't even spoke any Spanish either and I assumed Xavier was just speaking Spanish because she looked it. They also lead you to believe she wasn't a treated like a kid at all and was a lab experiment so I just assumed she never learned to talk but not only can she talk she's bilingual.

Simple Fan 03-15-2017 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rammsteinmad (Post 4942002)
You guys are overthinking this.

I know, I'm not one to usually do that but this movie just had a lot of things going on that left me thinking.

XL 03-15-2017 03:25 PM

Does she speak much English outside of quoting "Shane"?

McLegend 03-15-2017 04:05 PM

She needed to say "then I should be fine" and "Daddy"

Those cut deep

Ol Dirty Dastard 03-15-2017 04:07 PM

I thought Patrick Stewart had one of his most amazing performances in this movie. Perfect direction for Stewart to follow.

Ol Dirty Dastard 03-15-2017 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simple Fan (Post 4941983)
I was more annoyed with her talking all together. It wasn't what she was saying just the fact that she was talking after being mute the whole movie for no reason.

The fact that it's hard for you to understand why she wouldn't speak and how you don't notice the seamless transition into her speaking is astonishing, but hey that's how you took it.

Kalyx triaD 03-15-2017 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruien (Post 4941998)
I never figured she was a mute because she never did sign language.

I learned of the word mute because people asked my mother and older siblings so much when they met me. Sign language isn't a sure sign of people thinking you're mute. If you say nothing and respond with nods and such they'll think so.

XL 03-15-2017 04:21 PM

Surely using sign language is more a sign of being deaf? And deaf doesn't necessarily mean mute.

Kalyx triaD 03-15-2017 04:21 PM

Also true.

Ruien 03-15-2017 04:22 PM

It was a joke guys.....

Wishbone 03-16-2017 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heyman (Post 4941974)
Sounds to me like you've been taking one too many cocks to the face my friend.

#Mathematics101

In my defense that post was made at like 4 AM or something with literally zero sleep. The fact that I was able to make it even remotely coherent at all is a miracle... This post is also made under similar circumstances... The hell is wrong with me coming on this forum when I'm sleep deprived (or at all really?) I must be a freaking masochist or something... FFS :nono:

XL 07-20-2017 10:25 AM

Just picked up the blu ray, there's a second disc with a black and white version of the movie. Feels like it didn't need a separate disc.

Lock Jaw 07-20-2017 11:52 AM

How is the black and white version, though?

Sixx 07-20-2017 11:56 AM

It's no different, other than being black and white.

http://cdn1-www.comingsoon.net/asset...WhiteLogan.jpg

XL 07-20-2017 12:11 PM

Yeah, I don't think it's been cut any differently, it's just black and white which I thought would have been an easy thing to do in the options rather than producing a whole other disc.

Lock Jaw 07-20-2017 12:54 PM

I meant does it look cool..... does it make for a good "ambiance"

Rammsteinmad 07-20-2017 01:30 PM

"Noir Version".

Feel like "noir" is overrated these days.

XL 07-20-2017 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 4992926)
I meant does it look cool..... does it make for a good "ambiance"

Dunno, still in the cellophane.


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