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Simple Fan 09-11-2017 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Sixx (Post 5013406)
Don't compare dyslexia to autism... Damn.

When did I compare them? They are two totally different things but I think they are real unlike most mental disorders.

screech 09-11-2017 03:26 PM

So dyslexia is as serious as autism, but OCD and bipolar disorder are fake.

Okay then.

screech 09-11-2017 03:27 PM

By "as serious," I mean that you consider both of those to be real while discounting other disorders that are also quite serious.

Simple Fan 09-11-2017 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by TSI (Post 5013405)
My mom is bipolar and schizophrenic . She is sick enough where she doesn't have custody of her self. She lives in a group home. Believe me. Its a real illness. Watching her behavior change in real time will fuck with you the first couple of times. It changes like a light switch. Every day is a battle. I cant believe the balls of Mauro Ranallo to be so public in his battle with it, with assholes who have no idea what they are talking about belittling his illness. That's character, and strength that most will never have. JBL is the real pussy in this situation. It doesn't make him a tough guy giving shit to an announcer, whos not even "one of the boys". Im glad hes gone. Fuck him :wave:


I don't doubt the moods can change in light switch but I still don't see that as an illness. Sorry not trying to be rude but I just see it as a mood swong and not an illness. As I've said my brother would probably be considered bipolar if he got checked out as he can also go on some crazy mood swings. That's his personality though and not an illness. A mental illness should be something that affect that person to the point where they can't live a normal life and need assistance. Plenty of bipolar people out there that live a normal life, Mauro included.

Sixx 09-11-2017 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Simple Fan (Post 5013407)
When did I compare them? They are two totally different things but I think they are real unlike most mental disorders.

You did, when you said they are both equally real, while bipolar disorder is not.

Simple Fan 09-11-2017 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by screech (Post 5013411)
By "as serious," I mean that you consider both of those to be real while discounting other disorders that are also quite serious.

Yes I believe those are two real disorders but autism is way more serious. As for the other disorders that I discredit I see them as more of a personality issue than a do an illness.

Simple Fan 09-11-2017 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Sixx (Post 5013415)
You did, when you said they are both equally real, while bipolar disorder is not.

Well I never said equally just that I thought they were both examples of a real mental illness.

TSI 09-11-2017 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Simple Fan (Post 5013414)
I don't doubt the moods can change in light switch but I still don't see that as an illness. Sorry not trying to be rude but I just see it as a mood swong and not an illness. As I've said my brother would probably be considered bipolar if he got checked out as he can also go on some crazy mood swings. That's his personality though and not an illness. A mental illness should be something that affect that person to the point where they can't live a normal life and need assistance. Plenty of bipolar people out there that live a normal life, Mauro included.

My mom doesn't live a normal life. Like I said, shes in a group home, and has a guardian. My family has tried many times to set her up to be on her own, and it fails every time. I've had her live with me many times, but Im no professional. Without assistance she would be homeless or worse.

screech 09-11-2017 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Simple Fan (Post 5013417)
Yes I believe those are two real disorders but autism is way more serious. As for the other disorders that I discredit I see them as more of a personality issue than a do an illness.

If you've never gotten your brother examined, how do you know he's not bipolar rather than it being "just his personality," though?

Sixx 09-11-2017 03:49 PM

Simple Shrink

Simple Fan 09-11-2017 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by TSI (Post 5013420)
My mom doesn't live a normal life. Like I said, shes in a group home, and has a guardian. My family has tried many times to set her up to be on her own, and it fails every time. I've had her live with me many times, but Im no professional. Without assistance she would be homeless or worse.

Which is sad and I feel for you but still doesn't change my opinion. Thanks for contributing to the conversation and I don't mean to be rude but its of my opinion that bipolar is a fake diagnosis and I stand by it. You have brought good insight to the conversation and I respect that. I just go by my experiences with people with such disorders to form my opinion and therefore never meeting you mom, my opinion really cant be changed by her example.

Simple Fan 09-11-2017 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by screech (Post 5013421)
If you've never gotten your brother examined, how do you know he's not bipolar rather than it being "just his personality," though?

It is just his personality, I said if he did get checked out they would probably throw that diagnosis on him which I would see as a phony diagnosis.

Destor 09-11-2017 03:56 PM

Every person in my family has bipolar disorder. I agree with Fan.

Destor 09-11-2017 03:56 PM

I think the average person uses their disabilities as excuses for being weak poeple.

Big Vic 09-11-2017 04:00 PM

Maro has the right to quit any job he wants. He didn't blast anyone after he quit as far as I recall. Not sure why he would get hate now.

Destor 09-11-2017 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Vic (Post 5013429)
Maro has the right to quit any job he wants. He didn't blast anyone after he quit as far as I recall. Not sure why he would get hate now.

QFT

Sixx 09-11-2017 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Destor (Post 5013427)
Every person in my family has bipolar disorder. I agree with Fan.

Breakin' my heart.

Destor 09-11-2017 04:10 PM

IM SORRY. I deal with it every day and people just use it as a crutch to not try. "I cant" is their motto. They could, I do...frustrating.

Simple Fan 09-11-2017 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Vic (Post 5013429)
Maro has the right to quit any job he wants. He didn't blast anyone after he quit as far as I recall. Not sure why he would get hate now.

I don't disagree but I would have rather him blasted JBL instead of having his friends do it while he blamed it on his "mental illness". I understand why he didn't as he probably would have never worked in WWE again if he did blast JBL.

Big Vic 09-11-2017 04:26 PM

Did his friends do it? The only JBL stories that I remember coming out around that time were from Justin Roberts.

Simple Fan 09-11-2017 04:34 PM

Well are Justin Roberts and Maro friends? Any way his twitter followers and people in the business that like Maro definitely did.

Big Vic 09-11-2017 04:44 PM

Are they friends? I don't think they worked in the WWE at the same time.

Can't blame him for what his twitter followers do like the LAME-stream media does to trump.

Big Vic 09-11-2017 04:45 PM

(shuddering at my last sentence)

Simple Fan 09-11-2017 04:47 PM

No argument there but I still lost alot of respect for Maro after the situation. Of course involving JBL did him no favors with me as JBL is one of my favorite WWE title reigns of all time and a Wrestling God.

TSI 09-11-2017 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Simple Fan (Post 5013426)
It is just his personality, I said if he did get checked out they would probably throw that diagnosis on him which I would see as a phony diagnosis.

Maybe it would be, but I just don't understand how you can say every one with that diagnosis is phony. I don't disagree that people get misdiagnosed all the time. Mental Illness isn't easy, but that doesn't mean everyone diagnosed with bipolar disorder is faking or they are just throwing a blanket treatment. Ive spent my whole life around this illness. Visiting group homes and been inside mental hospitals seeing my mom. Its real.

mike adamle 09-11-2017 05:46 PM

I think Noid might be bipolar.

Lock Jaw 09-11-2017 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by TSI (Post 5013464)
Maybe it would be, but I just don't understand how you can say every one with that diagnosis is phony. I don't disagree that people get misdiagnosed all the time. Mental Illness isn't easy, but that doesn't mean everyone diagnosed with bipolar disorder is faking or they are just throwing a blanket treatment. Ive spent my whole life around this illness. Visiting group homes and been inside mental hospitals seeing my mom. Its real.

FAKE NEWS

IN OTHER FAKE NEWS, ALL 100 DOLLAR BILLS ARE PHONY.

In my personal experience, 100 dollar bills are counterfeit. So, even though there are plenty of examples of people using 100 dollar bills, in my opinion derived from my personal experience they are actually all counterfeit. Whenever I see a 100 dollar bill, I immediately rip it in half.

Simple Fan 09-11-2017 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by TSI (Post 5013464)
Maybe it would be, but I just don't understand how you can say every one with that diagnosis is phony. I don't disagree that people get misdiagnosed all the time. Mental Illness isn't easy, but that doesn't mean everyone diagnosed with bipolar disorder is faking or they are just throwing a blanket treatment. Ive spent my whole life around this illness. Visiting group homes and been inside mental hospitals seeing my mom. Its real.

Oh I don't think they are faking it either. It's just who they are, not an illness. The bipolar diagnosis among others is an excuse for that behavior and a money grab for the medical profession in my opinion. If you've dealt with I you whole life then your family has probably spent alot of money on getting your mother help and I hope it's been worth it. Still think alot of it has to do with the individual and their willingness to change over anything.

Mr. Nerfect 09-11-2017 09:20 PM

I tried to bite my tongue, but with Corey Graves now coming over to SmackDown, can we please just end this fucking brand split?

mike adamle 09-11-2017 09:32 PM

Now what's the big deal about an announcer being on both shows? Gives him the ability to be the voice of the WWE

Mr. Nerfect 09-11-2017 09:34 PM

Exactly. The Voice of the WWE. The WWE. It's all WWE. Stop trying to make them two things when they aren't.

mike adamle 09-11-2017 09:41 PM

They're different WWE shows under the same brand. Not hard to differentiate.

Lock Jaw 09-11-2017 09:42 PM

Yeah, they aren't trying to pretend they are two different things.

It is like how other sports have divisions, but it is all still MLB/NHL/NBA/Whatever........

#1-norm-fan 09-11-2017 09:46 PM

Aren't they supposed to be competing though? Having people on both brands doesn't make sense.

mike adamle 09-11-2017 09:51 PM

Maybe during Survivor Series or when something is on the line but if they were constantly competing it'd get old quick. Just let em do their own thing on each show.

Destor 09-11-2017 10:08 PM

This is the same way the brand split ended last time. More and more guys floating back and forth until it was meaningless and them they merged

Mr. Nerfect 09-11-2017 10:08 PM

If there is no difference between them, then why the fuck are you doing it?

Lock Jaw 09-11-2017 10:12 PM

A large roster of people to give spotlight/time to.

TSI 09-11-2017 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Noid (Post 5013756)
If there is no difference between them, then why the fuck are you doing it?

exactly

#1-norm-fan 09-11-2017 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Destor (Post 5013754)
This is the same way the brand split ended last time. More and more guys floating back and forth until it was meaningless and them they merged

Also, this.

Mr. Nerfect 09-12-2017 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 5013760)
A large roster of people to give spotlight/time to.

This is more of a detriment than a positive. If talent like Curt Hawkins and Jinder Mahal weren't important to keep around in the cuts, then why is it so important to feature them now? I mean, it's good for them, on a personal level, but nothing is really helped by their presence. If anything, you have too many people trying to get over and the ultimate effect is that fewer people matter.

By splitting the roster, you immediately decrease the number of people that everyone on Raw is exposed to (ratings are usually hurt by the brand split), and and you impose a ceiling on just how much they are able to get over, since you not only have 50/50 booking, but you've also got two contenders for "best" as champions in respective divisions.

Mr. Nerfect 09-12-2017 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Destor (Post 5013754)
This is the same way the brand split ended last time. More and more guys floating back and forth until it was meaningless and them they merged

It wouldn't surprise me if the actual split ends very soon and we're left with unified titles, except for the two "World" Titles which will remain separate for a few years for no given explanation.

#1-norm-fan 09-12-2017 12:11 AM

It wouldn't surprise me if, after that, they split the rosters again a few years later.

Mr. Nerfect 09-12-2017 12:14 AM

I'll give it 4 years max.

Big Vic 09-12-2017 10:08 AM

Womens division should be on Raw Tag Division should be on SDL

Mr. Nerfect 09-13-2017 02:43 AM

Within the paradigm of the brand split, I agree. Splitting the divisions leaves them very hollow on each show, and having the divisions spread across the shows gives you a reason to watch. I imagine that the reason they don't do this is because each show is constructed to have the same staples and format, so it would require work to change that.

You'd still have hot girls on SmackDown. Renee Young is doing her interviewer shtick there. JoJo could be swapped over for ring announcer. You can have valets and female managers there. They might stand out as personalities there. When it comes to the tag teams, you're only really moving over Ambrose & Rollins, Sheamus & Cesaro, The Hardy Boyz and Gallows & Anderson. And at least half of those teams aren't likely to be together for much longer.

TSI 09-14-2017 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Noid (Post 5014685)
Within the paradigm of the brand split, I agree. Splitting the divisions leaves them very hollow on each show, and having the divisions spread across the shows gives you a reason to watch. I imagine that the reason they don't do this is because each show is constructed to have the same staples and format, so it would require work to change that.

You'd still have hot girls on SmackDown. Renee Young is doing her interviewer shtick there. JoJo could be swapped over for ring announcer. You can have valets and female managers there. They might stand out as personalities there. When it comes to the tag teams, you're only really moving over Ambrose & Rollins, Sheamus & Cesaro, The Hardy Boyz and Gallows & Anderson. And at least half of those teams aren't likely to be together for much longer.


That makes too much sense!! Stop it! It doesn't go with the corporate plan to do everything exactly the same

Mr. Nerfect 09-15-2017 03:47 AM

Gentrification means that everything makes money, right?


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