huge fan of Damn's avatar. fantastic. Don't let it get to your head though, kid.

It's just a goofy one. Note the 1,000-yard-stare/deer in the headlights stare.

Meltz is saying that some of his sources are saying that Sami, Owens and New Day all thought they did what they were supposed to and it was all mis-communication.

Yeah, for better or worse, the word was that Owens especially was very upset he was being sent home, so a miscue might be the most logical outcome. Still, if so, seems like a drastic overreaction when the tour is already missing advertised talent left and right.

If it really was just a miscue, then yes, it was an overreaction.

No, i agree. It just reminds me of Vince totally overreacting to Titus O’Niel grabbing him and suspending him for 60 days lol

Am I the only one who thinks Vince was completely justified in punishing Titus over that?

Something can be justified but inconsistently enforced and an overreaction all at the same time.

I don't think that was an overreaction.

I don't think it's an overreaction.

To suspend him or to suspend him for the length of time he originally suspended him for?

Either and both. I think he's extremely lucky to still have a job.

Good thing Titus didn’t sneeze at the exact same time or that very well may have been the case

How much of that is due to him being not very good?

Titus O'Neil has been on the main roster for 7 and a half years and has not improved one iota in the ring during that span despite working with some of the best wrestlers in the world and having numerous resources available to him.

He's got a great look, is charismatic, is a genuinely nice dude who the company feels comfortable involving in PR initiatives, and he's African American. That he hasn't been pushed to the moon is a pretty big indicator of how god awful he is in the ring.

That he hasn't been pushed to the moon is an indication that he is, in fact, African American.

I actually think WWE would like to have a prominent African American star at the top of the card at this point. But Titus sucks in the ring. Apollo Crews and Jason Jordan have all the charisma of a dry erase board. Shelton Benjamin is 42 years old. Rich Swann and Cedric Alexander are in the cruiserweight division and probably won't ever get out

The clearest answer is to push the shit out of Big E. The guy is only 31, looks like a million bucks, is bursting with personality, and does things a man his size shouldn't be able to do in the ring.

I get that they might be hesitant to have him go solo given that he's in a tag team that moves a shitload of merch....but shit. The man checks off every box. And just because they push him doesn't mean they have to throw away New Day. They can still be a stable with Kofi and Woods being in the tag division as E pursues a solo career.

I would be all for a Big E monster push.

A large part.

He's one of the few guys that has got those tools sitting there. I'd be nervous for it though, because I can imagine them changing the stuff that works, swapping it for a smile and giving him the superhero promos.

I mean, him smiling is what's been working.

I really don't think that the New Day should ever break up, either. All alignment turns should be all together from here on out.

Ya. I want New Day together forever but Big E could easily be the star out of the bunch while still together. Even if it is for a brief time to be in the main event.

Believe Kofi and maybe Xavier hinted at retiring once New Day breaks up and convince Creative/Vince to give Big E a big push before they leave.

Easily. I wasn't saying one was related to the other. Just thinking out loud. They could stay together and have him be a main eventer at the same time. :y:

Kinda off-topic, but I was watching some random NFL game today and had to do a double take and had a good laugh @ one of the players actually being named Xavier Woods.

If I could find what I did with that pic, I would try.

Like The Horsemen... there was no dispute that Flair was "the man". New Day could do the same thing. The problem is that Vince gets so trigger happy with needing to break up teams, there is almost no way this would happen. Sad that the most radical thing they could do is not have them turn on eachother.

Hell, if the Horsemen were in their prime right now, there would be some dissension in the ranks and they'd split into two teams then go their separate ways and somehow Tully would win the belt from Flair and Arn would leave and come back under a mask as a different wrestler and Ole would get shipped off to Smackdown...

Back to Big E, though: he *was* getting a monster push when he got brought up from NXT, with a fast track to a barely memorable IC run and possible main event megapush. Then, like with so many others, he caught a case of "bored now" booking, and didn't do shit for awhile besides carry the bags of Zigs and AJ Lee until the New Day thing started. So, who's to say that he wouldn't get another push just to have it halted for zero reason?

That could happen, or they could realize that they had the right idea the first time and give him what he deserves. I'd at least like to see them try again. Big E now is much more over than Big E then, and he's been pretty amazing as of late.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: Big E has champion written all over him.

If they wanted to evolve the unit, they can do so while keeping them a team, agreed. When the whole thing started it looks like it was going to be a Nation rehash, with Xavier as an intelligent manager type. Not saying go back to the racial thing, but Big E as a serious heel threat with Xavier as the brains teaming with Kofi...Maybe Kofi as the star, Big E as back up and Xavier as the manager...could go a lot of ways, but almost all of them seem more attractive than breaking them up.

I don't see the idea of breaking up acts to get them heat. Look at Cass. Once he moved on from Enzo he was doomed, but had they turned both of them on a more popular babyface and made Enzo a mouthpiece for Cass, it would have been fine.

I said it like a year or two ago. They need to go Nation of Domination, but not call it that. Call it something new. Involve Ron Simmons and Mark Henry. They could get a really great run out of this if they were smart.

Why? They've aid before they're not those guys so it probably wouldn't work. As for really great run, no stable has probably had a run as good as them in the last 20 years bar the Shield.

because it capitalizes on the pulse of America right now. It would make news. People would watch rather they like it or not. It would be talked about.

Are you saying that the Fashion Police should shoot one of the New Day and get away with it, causing an outrage?

Who is going to play the Nazis though?

Heidenreich after his shocking return

Ziggler could probably pull it off too

Adolph Ziggler

I don't want to see them split or feud with each other. Xavier Woods playing the Samuel L. Jackson to Big E's Bruce Willis would be interesting, but it's not worth sacrificing all that merchandise and all that good will they all have. They're far better aligned than separate. Kofi and Woods could be cut down by a monster heel leading to Big E fighting them solo. Kofi and Woods can stick around as a tag team or even try their hand at singles acts themselves whilst all remaining under the New Day "banner." You could even have them share singles accolades from now on. Well, I wouldn't go over the top with it, but let's say Big E is WWE Champion -- having Xavier Woods defend the belt in Atlanta, Georgia because his friend trusts him so much could be a nice little moment.

I'd be fine with Roman Reigns as the "RAW guy" and Big E as the "SmackDown guy." I know which one I'd rather watch.

On Big Cass: What worked about him was his chemistry with Enzo. He's not the worst on the mic, has a goofy personality that is somewhat endearing, plays off Scrappy-Doo well, and could be the more serious of the two. Enzo would help Cass stand out, but also allowed good contrast for when Cass got serious.

By turning him heel and taking away Enzo, you literally changed everything about him that was working, besides him being tall. It completely missed the point of what endeared him to audiences.

For those who missed it, Orton literally (verbally) eviscerated Kevin Owens on Twitter.

Anyone have a link to that?

http://www.wrestlinginc.com/wi/news/...ts-on-twitter/

Orton pretty much made fun of him for getting kicked out of the European tour and responding back to a vaping insult saying he quit doing it but Owens wouldn't know since it happened at the end of the tour.

Captain resthold with the zing.

I'm going to be honest: Every day I love Randy Orton more.