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Evil Vito 01-23-2018 02:56 PM

WWE doesn't even have the Cruiserweight Championship listed as Vacant. They've straight up removed it from the website.

It may have been mercy killed.

Simple Fan 01-23-2018 02:57 PM

3rd Rumble match with 15 cruiserweights to crown a new champion.

DaveWadding 01-23-2018 02:58 PM

Vito def needs to be a part of an HR stable. HR hot takes everywhere!

#BROKEN Hasney 01-23-2018 03:04 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Enzo came to Barclays Center yesterday wearing a t-shirt with “today is the best day of my life” on the front and “can’t wait for tomorrow” on the back. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/RAW25?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#RAW25</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/EnzoAmore?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#EnzoAmore</a></p>&mdash; Conrad Thompson (@HeyHeyItsConrad) <a href="https://twitter.com/HeyHeyItsConrad/status/955879982714228737?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 23, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Loose Cannon 01-23-2018 03:06 PM

let's be honest, with everything i've read over the past year, it was only a matter of time. he seems like a clown

KIRA 01-23-2018 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Guycott (Post 5075570)
Wondering if it's one of those "I feel dirty" afterwards kind of things.

Consensual until sober.

Well drunk youre not really all there thus you do things you wouldnt normally do so when you sober up if its how you feel you are well within reason to feel violated

Rammsteinmad 01-23-2018 03:07 PM

Yeah, it's been one thing after another with this guy. This doesn't surprise me at all.

It's a shame though, guy was really charismatic and was a great talker.

Anybody Thrilla 01-23-2018 03:10 PM

The biggest loss in all of this was Neville.

KIRA 01-23-2018 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destor (Post 5075793)
Just lost his job due to tweets...you sure?

The Tweets probably made it even worse but somewhere between the accusation and his release I'm guessing something was uncovered that made the company go "nope"

#BROKEN Hasney 01-23-2018 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 5075820)
The biggest loss in all of this was Neville.

Eh, he would have gone with or without Enzo.

KIRA 01-23-2018 03:11 PM

On a less dark note now is the time to bring back the King of the Cruiser weights

Destor 01-23-2018 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #BROKEN Hasney (Post 5075802)
No he didn't. He lost it earlier than he would have due to Tweets.

If he didn't inform WWE when the investigation was ongoing, it was going to get out eventually anyway and he would have been released then.

Oh you mean those tweets you read?

Destor 01-23-2018 03:12 PM

https://scontent.flex1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...b9&oe=5AEF6C2C

KIRA 01-23-2018 03:13 PM

This division is pretty much imploding

Ol Dirty Dastard 01-23-2018 03:17 PM

My guess is once the wwe realized was going to likely be facing rape charges upon their own investigation (following up on said tweets) they were like "fuck this we are out" cuz its not the 80s anymore and there isnt enough hush money to keep things quiet these days.

ClockShot 01-23-2018 03:20 PM

BADA BOOM! REALIST GUY NO LONGER IN THE ROOM!

HOW YOU DOIN?!

ClockShot 01-23-2018 03:20 PM

So, when Big Cass gets healed up, what do you do with him?

Danny Electric 01-23-2018 03:21 PM

Police were informed 3 days after what had 'occurred', which would of been over two months ago, I can see now why WWE would get rid of Enzo.

Destor 01-23-2018 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClockShot (Post 5075831)
So, when Big Cass gets healed up, what do you do with him?

Nothing...ever.

Danny Electric 01-23-2018 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClockShot (Post 5075831)
So, when Big Cass gets healed up, what do you do with him?

Make him into a Dog the Bounty Hunter character and his first bond is Enzo.

#BROKEN Hasney 01-23-2018 03:27 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Hey <a href="https://twitter.com/WWE?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@WWE</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/TripleH?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TripleH</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/StephMcMahon?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@StephMcMahon</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/VinceMcMahon?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@VinceMcMahon</a> I know a guy! ������ <a href="https://t.co/Hphp1gPiEG">pic.twitter.com/Hphp1gPiEG</a></p>&mdash; Hurricane Helms (@ShaneHelmsCom) <a href="https://twitter.com/ShaneHelmsCom/status/955893325613207552?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 23, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Lock Jaw 01-23-2018 03:29 PM

Shane Helms looks like Shane from Walking Dead

slik 01-23-2018 03:32 PM

Give Gulak the belt!

Emperor Smeat 01-23-2018 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClockShot (Post 5075831)
So, when Big Cass gets healed up, what do you do with him?

Best case is to put him right back in the tag division since his ceiling for success is really small.

Also considering he was hated just as much as Enzo backstage, don't see him lasting long either in the WWE.

Danny Electric 01-23-2018 03:37 PM

Hope they don't give it to Itami. Hang on, where's Spud, give it to him or Rapstar Potato.

Dark One 01-23-2018 03:46 PM

Guess that answers my question as to whether his Straight to the Source episode was the greatest Kaufman-esque performance of our generation or he was legitimately a twat.

Heisenberg 01-23-2018 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny Electric (Post 5075844)
Hope they don't give it to Itami. Hang on, where's Spud, give it to him or Rapstar Potato.



Potato is annoying in a good way, we don't want him to succumb to the curse

erickman 01-23-2018 04:35 PM

I say a lot of people will watch 205 tonight

#BROKEN Hasney 01-23-2018 04:40 PM

Nah, probably read about it tomorrow. Ain't nobody got time for that.

Evil Vito 01-23-2018 04:43 PM

I actually like 205 Live when I watch it. But I already watch enough wrestling as it is.

Ol Dirty Dastard 01-23-2018 05:21 PM

The accuser is now giving her account on tmz. Jayzus

Ezra 01-23-2018 05:36 PM

You can find her Facebook now pretty easy too. It also shows where she works hope enzo doesn't go all g on her.

#1-norm-fan 01-23-2018 05:40 PM

... I'm gonna try something...

Guys. Roman Reigns raped me.

Ezra 01-23-2018 05:42 PM

His booking has raped us all.

#BROKEN Hasney 01-23-2018 05:46 PM

http://www.wwe.com/article/smackdown...?sf180060424=1

SmackDown LIVE General Manager Daniel Bryan to address WWE 205 Live tonight
SmackDown LIVE General Manager Daniel Bryan to address WWE 205 Live tonight
With questions surrounding the status of the WWE Cruiserweight Championship and rumors circulating about a potential General Manager for WWE 205 Live, SmackDown LIVE GM Daniel Bryan has been asked to address these issues on behalf of WWE to kick off tonight’s episode of WWE 205 Live.

Among the topics Bryan may address is the status of the WWE Cruiserweight Title. Will Cedric Alexander still have his long-awaited opportunity to claim it at Royal Rumble? Furthermore, what would the possible addition of a General Manager mean for the future of the Cruiserweight division? And is there someone lined up for the position?

Don’t miss WWE 205 Live, tonight at 10:20/9:20 C on the award-winning WWE Network.

Emperor Smeat 01-23-2018 05:47 PM

Shouldn't it be Angle making the special message considering the Cruisers belong to RAW?

#BROKEN Hasney 01-23-2018 05:48 PM

Enzo's name may as well be Benoit, ateast short term. He's not going to be mentioned by name at all.

#BROKEN Hasney 01-23-2018 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5075881)
Shouldn't it be Angle making the special message considering the Cruisers belong to RAW?

Yeah, but Bryan's there already. This is easier and cheaper, especially at short notice. He's been asked to address them by WWE.

Danny Electric 01-23-2018 05:58 PM

Potential 205 GM = Spud

erickman 01-23-2018 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #BROKEN Hasney (Post 5075884)
Yeah, but Bryan's there already. This is easier and cheaper, especially at short notice. He's been asked to address them by WWE.

that can go with the bryan taking too much power story, take power from steph like he did from shane

Helmsphere 01-23-2018 05:59 PM

I don't know if the rape thing is true, however sadly up until this point, Regardless if he did it or not. He never did much to sway people into believing something like this couldn't happen.

Enzo has always been a goof, but despite that, up until very recently he did bring some importance to 205 Live, because he was the ultimate Heel champion for that division.

Regardless if he is guilty or not, I hope Eric will wake up and make changes to turn his life around.

erickman 01-23-2018 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny Electric (Post 5075886)
Potential 205 GM = Spud

he can do like he did to Dixie kiss vinces ass story wise

Emperor Smeat 01-23-2018 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #BROKEN Hasney (Post 5075884)
Yeah, but Bryan's there already. This is easier and cheaper, especially at short notice. He's been asked to address them by WWE.

True.

Would be pretty funny if he just announced Angle as the new GM. Cruisers getting their own GM is pretty interesting though since it does give WWE a way to start distancing the division away from RAW and into their own brand.

mike adamle 01-23-2018 06:07 PM

Hopefully Enzo can land in TNA or something. Maybe he can run with this and do a rape gimmick of sorts. He could drug the whole Knockout's division and kayfabe rape them, he's have tremendous heat.

Mr. Nerfect 01-23-2018 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destor (Post 5075793)
Just lost his job due to tweets...you sure?

Haha, that's not true. If it turns out Enzo didn't do this and is completely exonerated, I'll give you an apology, but at this point it's actually you that is acting naive about the whole thing.

#BROKEN Hasney 01-23-2018 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5075890)
True.

Would be pretty funny if he just announced Angle as the new GM. Cruisers getting their own GM is pretty interesting though since it does give WWE a way to start distancing the division away from RAW and into their own brand.

Someone mentioned Rockstar Spud and that makes perfect sense.

Mr. Nerfect 01-23-2018 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 5075877)
... I'm gonna try something...

Guys. Roman Reigns raped me.

If you can get witnesses/co-conspirators to his crime, put yourself in the same location as him, have medical records that corroborate an event like that, and can even get some of his DNA, you might have a chance of getting an investigation opened.

Mr. Nerfect 01-23-2018 06:29 PM

For god's sake, just let 205 Live die. If anything good is going to come out of this, it's that Enzo has killed that belt for you.

Mr. Nerfect 01-23-2018 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destor (Post 5075834)
Nothing...ever.

Agree with this re: Big Cass.

#1-norm-fan 01-23-2018 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noid (Post 5075895)
If you can get witnesses/co-conspirators to his crime, put yourself in the same location as him, have medical records that corroborate an event like that, and can even get some of his DNA, you might have a chance of getting an investigation opened.

A lot of work. But I'm willing to do it for the good of wrestling.

Ol Dirty Dastard 01-23-2018 07:58 PM

http://nodq.com/news/518760590.shtml

more lunacy in this trainwreck.

#1-norm-fan 01-23-2018 07:58 PM

If only his wife still posted here.

Ol Dirty Dastard 01-23-2018 08:02 PM

I swear to god Noid if this turns out to be bullshit I am going to rub it in your face. Mainly because I'm very petty.

#1-norm-fan 01-23-2018 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dastardly Dale Newstead (Post 5075951)
http://nodq.com/news/518760590.shtml

more lunacy in this trainwreck.

I'm guessing she's gonna respond calling him a liar and claiming the texts aren't actually from her... but that seems pretty damning.

Ol Dirty Dastard 01-23-2018 08:20 PM

I'm hoping he's innocent. Namely because the less people raping/getting raped, the better.

Mr. Nerfect 01-23-2018 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 5075947)
A lot of work. But I'm willing to do it for the good of wrestling.

You're the hero we need.

Mr. Nerfect 01-23-2018 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dastardly Dale Newstead (Post 5075968)
I'm hoping he's innocent. Namely because the less people raping/getting raped, the better.

The fewer people raped the better. You're welcome to rub it in my face. I'll still take the statistics every time. This does sound like a train wreck, and the texts will be looked into and checked for their authenticity, etc. I do find it weird that they are screenshots of the messages that show the date in the first one, but then nothing in the second one except they were screen-grabbed "yesterday." If you want to play armchair detective, why not just show the message stream instead of individual screenshots that you obviously would have had to dig for anyway?

This is such a mess, and there's way too much smoke to not take it seriously. If she is lying, she deserves to be charged with filing a police report, but if she's telling the truth, I hope all these punks helping to murky the waters get taken down too, to be honest.

Ol Dirty Dastard 01-23-2018 08:32 PM

yeah txts are hard to take 100 per cent seriously. Can so easily be doctored.

#1-norm-fan 01-23-2018 08:33 PM

Well he says the texts were sent to someone else. Not directly to him. So all he would have are screenshots.

Emperor Smeat 01-23-2018 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 5075982)
Well he says the texts were sent to someone else. Not directly to him. So all he would have are screenshots.

Could be like the Elgin situation where an outside source vouched for Elgin's innocence with texts and later got outed as likely being Elgin or someone he personally knew. Whole idea was to tarnish the victim's image publicly as payback.

Fightful.com has been working on a report about the Enzo story and pretty much stated its been a really messy situation so far. The drugs and victim supposedly being bi-polar as being some big issues.

Mr. Nerfect 01-23-2018 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 5075982)
Well he says the texts were sent to someone else. Not directly to him. So all he would have are screenshots.

This is true. But why not send them to police at this point? I mean, it's not like he's been allegedly traumatized by something, why not turn it in to the people investigating so they can get phone records and such? I mean, you'd think they'd have looked at her phone anyway.

Ol Dirty Dastard 01-23-2018 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5075987)
Fightful.com has been working on a report about the Enzo story and pretty much stated its been a really messy situation so far. The drugs and victim supposedly being bi-polar being some big issues.

Seems very, very murky.

#1-norm-fan 01-23-2018 08:45 PM

Maybe they were shown to the police. He says he sent them to the girl who she says was an accomplice and she has been talking with police so I'm sure those texts have come up.

Mr. Nerfect 01-23-2018 08:52 PM

Maybe. We'll see.

#1-norm-fan 01-23-2018 08:53 PM

From the comment section: "I actually dm'd Toopoor on twitter & sent her those screenshots and she said she would send them along to the detectives & I told her I'd be willing to speak to them if need be"

Mr. Nerfect 01-23-2018 09:01 PM

Could still be complete bullshit. No one in this mess seems particularly smart. It'll be interesting to see if stories stay consistent or whether or not they fold like umbrellas when they can get out of drug charges, accessory charges or whatever leverage is applied.

Even so, bragging about having sex still doesn't mean it was consensual. It's a hard concept to understand, but many victims do romanticize experiences and even brag about them. A case that happened close to me had a victim coming out and telling everybody it happened like it was a fun thing. Weirded people out, but turned out the guy was a total creep and she needed a lot of help stemming from the incident. Entirely anecdotal, but her texting someone and trying to spin it into a positive doesn't mean that she then didn't say no or get pressured into sex while under the influence and then needed to check herself into a mental hospital.

Wait and see how this plays out. Enzo has released a statement:

“Over the last two days, Philomena Sheahan has made multiple public accusations against Eric Arndt (also known as Enzo Amore with the WWE), including allegations of sexual misconduct concerning an October 2017 incident in Phoenix. Mr. Arndt fully and unequivocally denies those accusations. He is cooperating with the authorities in this manner and looks forward to having it resolved in a timely manner. Neither Mr. Arndt nor his counsel will be making any further public comments on this matter.”

Sounds like he's beginning to take it seriously, as opposed to wearing funny t-shirts about it, lying to his employer and basically being Enzo. Glad he's gone, regardless of the outcome, because some people just don't deserve a profile.

Mr. Nerfect 01-23-2018 09:09 PM

She should really get off TMZ and all that. That's not helping the image people want to paint of her being a gold-digger or social media junkie, or whatever.

Loose Cannon 01-23-2018 09:21 PM

so i watched her video on i guess TMZ. This whole thing seems like a train wreck. my question is she claims she was on all these drugs and basically out of her mind. so how does she know what really even happened? and she has one of those spiked dog collars around her neck while talking. fuck

GD 01-23-2018 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #BrotherVito DELETED (Post 5075758)
http://www.wwe.com/article/enzo-amore-released

They didn't wish him the best in his future endeavors, and they immediately scrubbed his profile off of the website completely.

Seems apt.

#1-norm-fan 01-23-2018 09:35 PM

@Noid: Is there anything she could do or say or any new information that could come out that would ruin her credibility/rob her of the benefit of doubt in your mind?

Emperor Smeat 01-23-2018 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loose Cannon (Post 5076023)
so i watched her video on i guess TMZ. This whole thing seems like a train wreck. my question is she claims she was on all these drugs and basically out of her mind. so how does she know what really even happened? and she has one of those spiked dog collars around her neck while talking. fuck

Supposedly she still had a little sense of what was going on while the drugs were taking effect. Not enough to be fully aware or in any control of the situation but just enough that she could remember some stuff that happened before she blacked out or got incapacitated.

GD 01-23-2018 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #BrotherVito DELETED (Post 5075811)
WWE doesn't even have the Cruiserweight Championship listed as Vacant. They've straight up removed it from the website.

It may have been mercy killed.

They did something similar when Dolph Ziggler vacated the United States Championship. It's still listed as "active".

GD 01-23-2018 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 5075820)
The biggest loss in all of this was Neville.

That is not accurate. Amore and Neville were friends backstage. He didn't have any issues as far as losing the strap was concerned.

Loose Cannon 01-23-2018 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5076040)
Supposedly she still had a little sense of what was going on while the drugs were taking effect. Not enough to be fully aware or in any control of the situation but just enough that she could remember some stuff that happened before she blacked out or got incapacitated.

:y:

#1-norm-fan 01-23-2018 09:42 PM

She posted a video on YouTube 2 weeks ago where she tells the story of how she lied about being pregnant to keep a guy from breaking up with her, keeping the lie going even after they went to the doctor by telling him her gynecologist said sometimes it doesn't show up right away. She's definitely not a credible human being. Could have still been raped despite all of this... But at what point can you start leaning away from believing the crazy chick attention whore who lies constantly and take away the benefit of the doubt?

GD 01-23-2018 09:43 PM

http://www.wwe.com/classics/titlehis...t-championship

"VACANT" is being listed as the current champion :roll:

GD 01-23-2018 09:45 PM

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Mr. Nerfect 01-23-2018 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 5076039)
@Noid: Is there anything she could do or say or any new information that could come out that would ruin her credibility/rob her of the benefit of doubt in your mind?

If she came out and said "I am lying about this, haha," as far as things she could say. As far as things that could come out -- if credible witnesses say that they saw the initiation of the act and knew that Sheahan had consented. If the medical reports from her hospital tenure play contrary to sexual assault. If the people she spoke to at the hospital have some sort of insight that suggests that her claims are fraudulent.

But, basically, I give the allegedly victims the benefit of the doubt. Again, statistics say that it is basically pointless to pretend you are a victim, because people chew them apart, by and large. If she's making it up because she has a mental issue, I hope she gets help. But her being a train wreck human, as you said, doesn't mean she wasn't raped. It probably makes her more of a target for this sort of thing. And I'm not saying Enzo picked her out for that sort of thing, but she clearly lacks the sense of tact to keep her out of these situations. That doesn't mean it's her fault or completely okay for Enzo to sport fuck her while she's coked up and passing out, or whatever happened. She may not treat herself or others right, but she still deserves the dignity of having her claims be treated as serious and credibly investigated.

It costs nothing for me to give her the benefit of the doubt. It doesn't matter to me whether or not she is a junkie or a prostitute or whatever. It makes no difference to my life. I honestly don't get why people are concerned about things like her "credibility" in 2018. Like, as BigCrippyZ said -- if she said she was a virgin in court and then someone came forward and said "Hang on, I have evidence we slept together, therefore she is not telling the truth in this instance," it would matter more to me. Her being a train wreck just doesn't eliminate her from my scope of compassion. If anything, I think she needs more of it.

I'm not saying you're a bad person for not believing her or whatever -- I want to clarify that. She's not the sort of person I'd want to hang out with, either. I'm just of the opinion that going through her past to try and discredit current claims just isn't as relevant as other people seem to think it is. It's a shame people lie, but I don't think the truth cares about a lie you told yesterday.

If Enzo is innocent, I hope he is cleared of all charges. I can't see a way he comes out of this smelling like roses, however, because it sounds like he either had sex without her consent, they had coked up sex, or she was coked up and he fucked her. I say this because the other alleged witnesses all seem to put Enzo and drugs there, and the police seem to have DNA. All those scenarios contain some measure of a crime as the books currently stand, with the most benign being drug use, which the WWE may not take kindly to anyway. I doubt we see him back in the WWE. I can't say I'll miss him.

Mr. Nerfect 01-23-2018 10:16 PM

Does anyone find it odd that these allegations come out and completely wash away the accusations that Roman Reigns has been buying illegal steroids?

Tom Guycott 01-23-2018 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny Electric (Post 5075795)
Very dumb to not clue your bosses in for what was going to come out. As I said in the Aziz topic in casual forum, it's a shame that these allegations are put in the public eye, it makes it harder for the judicial system to do their job and taints the allegation.

The ladies conduct in her life plays no part if the rape did happen and if this is found true then I hope they throw the book at him.

If he is found innocent of all charges then would be intersting to see if their is any comeuppance for the WWE firing him.

Why would there be "comeuppance" for a publicly traded company that deals in pop culture trying to get in front of incoming negative publicity? Especially something of this magnitude? They let go of Hogan for measurably less (all things considered), so I think potential rape charges, even if he is 100% exhonorated, is a giant pothole they would like to not merely swerve around, but drive on a totally different street from.

slik 01-23-2018 10:30 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SDLive?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SDLive</a> GM <a href="https://twitter.com/WWEDanielBryan?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@WWEDanielBryan</a> announces that <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/205Live?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#205Live</a> will get a brand-new General Manager NEXT WEEK, and that person will address the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cruiserweight?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cruiserweight</a> Championship situation. <a href="https://t.co/0JR662P0ZR">pic.twitter.com/0JR662P0ZR</a></p>&mdash; WWE (@WWE) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWE/status/956004891071209472?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 24, 2018</a></blockquote>
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GD 01-23-2018 10:35 PM

I am intrigued.

Tom Guycott 01-23-2018 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noid (Post 5076085)
Does anyone find it odd that these allegations come out and completely wash away the accusations that Roman Reigns has been buying illegal steroids?

Not odd, but fortuitous. Like when that freak snowstorm dismantled what was destined to be a very, very shitty RAW.

Less conspiracy theory, more chicken salad from chicken shit.

Tom Guycott 01-23-2018 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #BROKEN Hasney (Post 5075837)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Hey <a href="https://twitter.com/WWE?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@WWE</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/TripleH?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TripleH</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/StephMcMahon?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@StephMcMahon</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/VinceMcMahon?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@VinceMcMahon</a> I know a guy! ������ <a href="https://t.co/Hphp1gPiEG">pic.twitter.com/Hphp1gPiEG</a></p>&mdash; Hurricane Helms (@ShaneHelmsCom) <a href="https://twitter.com/ShaneHelmsCom/status/955893325613207552?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 23, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 5075840)
Shane Helms looks like Shane from Walking Dead

He doesn't come back as The Hurricane, but The Punsher.

Mr. Nerfect 01-23-2018 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Guycott (Post 5076095)
Why would there be "comeuppance" for a publicly traded company that deals in pop culture trying to get in front of incoming negative publicity? Especially something of this magnitude? They let go of Hogan for measurably less (all things considered), so I think potential rape charges, even if he is 100% exhonorated, is a giant pothole they would like to not merely swerve around, but drive on a totally different street from.

Yeah, basically. And they have a morals cause, which I imagine means they can basically fire anyone for whatever they want whenever they want. But innocent until proven guilty is probably the thinking here. Is the WWE jumping the gun? No, I don't think so, because removing someone from a public position is not the same as throwing them into prison for actually committing a crime.

Mr. Nerfect 01-23-2018 10:57 PM

Shane Helms jumped the shark when he appeared with Matt Hardy on TNA.

Fignuts 01-23-2018 11:00 PM

Honestly, it sounds like the world wojld benefit if they locked everyone in this situation up and threw away the kaey.

Mr. Nerfect 01-23-2018 11:18 PM

Hahaha, there definitely needs to be a hose sprayed inside some brains.

KIRA 01-23-2018 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5076103)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SDLive?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SDLive</a> GM <a href="https://twitter.com/WWEDanielBryan?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@WWEDanielBryan</a> announces that <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/205Live?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#205Live</a> will get a brand-new General Manager NEXT WEEK, and that person will address the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cruiserweight?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cruiserweight</a> Championship situation. <a href="https://t.co/0JR662P0ZR">pic.twitter.com/0JR662P0ZR</a></p>&mdash; WWE (@WWE) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWE/status/956004891071209472?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 24, 2018</a></blockquote>
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The new champ will adress the situation?

Is the WWE really about to try to deliver a teachable moment? If so then Gulak should be champ

Fignuts 01-23-2018 11:39 PM

missgucciwitch?

More like missbutterface

MIRITE?

#1-norm-fan 01-24-2018 12:06 AM

"If I had a dime for every time I raped this woman, I'd have ZERO DIMES!"

"No further questions, your honor."

Anybody Thrilla 01-24-2018 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guru Devendra Banhart (Post 5076042)
That is not accurate. Amore and Neville were friends backstage. He didn't have any issues as far as losing the strap was concerned.

I stand corrected, but I still miss Neville.

Mr. Nerfect 01-24-2018 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 5076162)
"If I had a dime for every time I raped this woman, I'd have ZERO DIMES!"

"No further questions, your honor."

God, if they actually put Enzo on the stand, his testimony devolving into shtick would not surprise me.

Mr. Nerfect 01-24-2018 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 5076164)
I stand corrected, but I still miss Neville.

Became one of my five favorite workers in the company. I think he could have used a change of setting in order to see if people could take him more seriously.

Dark One 01-24-2018 02:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5076103)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SDLive?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SDLive</a> GM <a href="https://twitter.com/WWEDanielBryan?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@WWEDanielBryan</a> announces that <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/205Live?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#205Live</a> will get a brand-new General Manager NEXT WEEK, and that person will address the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cruiserweight?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cruiserweight</a> Championship situation. <a href="https://t.co/0JR662P0ZR">pic.twitter.com/0JR662P0ZR</a></p>&mdash; WWE (@WWE) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWE/status/956004891071209472?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 24, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Felt like I was watching TNA for a minute.

WE HAVE A MAJOR ANNOUNCEMENT TUNE IN. DONT MISS JT.




OUR MAJOR ANNOUNCEMENT IS THAT THERE WILL BE A MAJOR ANNOUNCMENT NEXT WEEK.

78% chance Tito Ortiz or a masturbating midget in a trash can is 205 Live GM

Mr. Nerfect 01-24-2018 02:26 AM

A midget in a trash can will actually get me to watch.

Simple Fan 01-24-2018 02:38 AM

Honswoggle isn't a stretch, form cruiserweight champion and has GM experience.

Mr. Nerfect 01-24-2018 02:43 AM

I like the way you're treating that position like a shoot, Fan. :lol:

Mr. Nerfect 01-24-2018 02:44 AM

I imagine it'll be Goldust.

Droford 01-24-2018 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Simple Fan (Post 5076205)
Honswoggle isn't a stretch, form cruiserweight champion and has GM experience.

bastard mcmahon too


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