I'm iffy on the bar. I thought their random team was weird, but they grew on me. It allowed Cesaro to get more "WWE Points" and Sheamus to not be annoying in the main events when he has no business being there. They're...long in the tooth. It's hard to stay relevant in a tag team division that is more interested in putting over children.

That being said, what is there for them as singles guys? Sheamus is on limited time because of his spinal condition, and Cesaro is not really their type. I liked the idea of The Bar on Smackers, because they could go into singles competition without actually splitting.

I wouldn't mind it if they became lackeys to Nakamura, to be honest. Call them Shinsuke International. I don't know. It's hard to care. I really want to care about Cesaro, I do.

Honestly I wouldn't mind them pairing up with Samoa Joe. Just three badasses together.

The biggest issue is you can't have a 4 time World Champion be a lackey. It would have to be all equals, but that instantly brings back the memory of how bad the League of Nations was. Granted Joe as the mouthpiece of the group would work.

That being said Bar vs Bludgeon Bros has to happen before any kind of change, cause that would be a hell of a brawl.

So Charlotte's injured........It's Asuka time baby!

Corrected it since knowing the WWE, that's who gets the next big push in the women's division.

Has it not already been Asuka time. I'd rather see them build up Carmella actually. Hope she also beats Asuka.

They have to turn her face and get rid of Sonya DeVille

No because she's yet to win the women's title.

Carmela has star potential written all over her. Not Charlotte potential but she's legit. More so than asuka.

Carmella I think would be great as a character/manager more so than a wrestler (same for Lana)

She is a decent enough wrestler. Her charisma is beyond anything else in the women's division though. Easily beats Bliss out for the top spot.

Every promo I've seen of Carmella seems like she's trying way too hard to play a character. Doesn't come off very natural at all.

Is it because she's Japanese or because Carmella is boinking John Cena

Asuka falls in the Nak boat. You have limited potential if you cant speak English.

Isn't Carmela married to Cass?

Carmella is fucking awful.

Ruien, you just want to fuck Carmella the most and its affecting your judgement.

No I don't think they are together.

:lol:

Most the women are but I'd rather see them build up one instead of force Asuka again.

Minus Asuka actually being good in the ring.

Having to listen to Carmella screech while locking in rest holds I could feel my dick shrivel up into my small intestine.

Haven't seen a good match from Asuka since joining the main roster. Granted I fast forward alot of the womens matches but other than her and Charlotte at WM everything else has been flat.

:roll:

Can you name one? I know you won't be able to because she hasn't had a meaningful match on the main roster besides the WM match.

and that is her fault of course. Certainly not the way she's been booked.

I didn't say it was her fault but I also don't see whats so special about her.

That's your problem "I don't like this person even though objectively at worst they're pretty good and people seem to like them. Job them to shitty wrestlers."

When did I say I didn't like her? I just wish they'd move on from her.

Fan. Talking to you sometimes is like smashing my head into a brick wall.

You jump to conclusions to much is your problem.

but your points are, well, pointless.

"She hasn't been booked well, so let's move on from her"

Or you know, just book her well. You think it's going to be better with shit ass Carmella at the helm?

They've put alot of work into Carmella and I'd rather see them continue to build her up.

Asuka's streak was the only thing interesting thing she had going for her and it was way over due for her to lose. No reason to push her to the top of the division right now, would hurt the division more so than Carmella will.

Nah. Pretty sure Carmella, who wrestles like Kelly Kelly, would hurt the division more.

What good would Asuka running through everyone do?

She doesn't have to run through everyone. Just book her like the great performer she is and I'm sure whatever she does will be better than Carmella's run where the title will lose all of its meaning.

Carmella is at least an interesting character. Asuka's has nothing without her streak. I don't even think she's all that great in the ring. Is she better than most, yeah but hasn't translated that to good matches. Charlotte and Sasha are better in ring performers than Asuka. I believe most are blinded by her NXT booking and how well they used her. She's been exposed on the main roster though.

okay

hopefully at next years mania we get Randy Orton vs Dave Batista in the main event.

Carmella is the most interesting and best "on the mic" of anyone in the women's division by far imo!!!

idk what is so interesting about Asuka... does a bunch of kicks... wrestles the same shitty WWE-style matches as everyone else, which is not her fault I guess... but at least the others have some sort of personality/character

Fuck yeah

I think Charlotte is the best on the mic! Carmella is good on the mic too though! Same for Billie/Peyton...SD women's roster way more interesting than RAW's overall tbh!!

People here insinuating that Asuka has no personality.

what

Rather see Carmella badly portray a stuck up bitch character that we've seen done better by just about everyone else.

Upset this even needs to be said.

Like, when Carmella talks, I don't believe a thing she's saying, because everything she says seems so forced.

She's the female roman reigns.

Agree 2 Disagree


Bayley is boring and sucks
Sasha is good but dragged down by boring Bayley
Nattie is good sometimes but also a jobber most of the time
Ronda has had 1 match
Sarah Logan sucks
Nia is boring now that her gimmick is not being bullied
Alexa Bliss is great
Mickie James is great
Ruby Riott is good
Liv Morgan sucks

SD also has Mandy Rose who is a fun character too

And SD is about to get Zelina/Almas...Zelina 'really good' on the mic

I hope Mandy Rose wins women's MITB tbh

Also, Naomi is a good wrestler (and Becky like u mentioned earlier)

What...

What personality does Asuka have... really confused... only says "you're not ready for Asuka"...

Carmella doesn't sound "forced" at all to me... sounds completely natural on the mic, unlike almost everyone else on the entire roster (m+f)

Asuka portrays more personality through her mannerisms and facial expressions than most women do through their attempts at speaking.

I don't think you're very good at watching wrestling, Triple A.

I am with AAA. I dont watch SD so I am limited to what I see from Carmella on the pre and post shows for the ppvs. She seems very fluent and charismatic. I did watch SD when she had that one dude with her and she was good even back then.

Asuka, just like Nak, cant have me invested. She is the better wrestler but I like characters. And speaking English is a big part of cutting a promo to get me involved.

It's the same thing as I would rather watch Miz anyday if the week over Nak. Miz is drawing me in. Nak is just an amazing wrestler that cant speak English.

fucking Americans.

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Hmmm. Question. When people like AJ, Balor, and such go to Japan did they learn to speak Japanesse?

Heel Nak is so much cooler than the Miz. The initial babyface Nak "Just liked to have fun" so I hear you on that.

I would imagine less japanese than Nak and Asuka speak English.

She's Charming playful really f****** scary all at the same time even little thing she does like that gesture she made in the women's Royal Rumble toward Amber moons arm. And her stuff with the Miz was amazing is one little moment that I can't find where she gave him a quick thumbs up just little things she's good at it. Part of her character is that she revels In a fight she's not really a stoic badass she's actually having fun taking and giving a beat down.

If heel Nakamura has taught us anything it's that speaking English really doesn't matter.

I know. God we are lazy lazy assholes.

lol

and yet
Nakamura might be the most over heel on Smackdown right now. As much as people loved him he has a tremendous ability to be a complete bastard and it's great and the English he does speak is short, sweet and has yet to fail.

people singing the Miz's praises like he's the next coming drive me fucking nuts. He's "good". But come on. He's not really a great athlete and even as a promo would get eaten alive in a better era. He's done well to bridge the gap from crap reality star turned wrestler INTO good performer. But he will forever lack credibility and will be stuck at the level he's at.

Nak is getting over by actually just being an awesome heel and being far better than the Miz could ever dream of. And he only has to go "Sorry.... No speak English"

I mean look at Roman Reigns he speaks perfect English.

I don't even see how you could say Asuka saying no one's ready for Asuka can count against her we all know how Vince life to drive things into the ground. If he could he would reduce everybody to four moves and a catchphrase.

Is Carmella good in her role as a heel yes she's an annoying coward and she knows how to play it to the hilt.
And then you have the iconix who are......... annoying cowards. I'm not exactly sure what Charlotte's character is other than I'm the best which isn't really a character but I guess we'll give her a pass.

And the best part about Nakamura is unlike The Miz unlike Elias unlike maybe Samoa Joe I'm not sure where he stands Nakamura actually gets booed for being a heel he didn't have to revert to some racist stereotype that hates America to do it(I love you gender but if we're being honest) he's just really damn good at being hated.

Nakamura proves that it's not how many words you know it's how you say something and what you do. Jeff Hardy sucks on the mic he has not improved 1iota but you love him.

Mojo Riley can talk his head off he is as annoying as Carmella if not more so but you don't want to see him on your television.

This. Her character is completely unique and something we've never seen in WWE before.

I like how Charlotte's character has evolved. She has a certain regality that she's made her own.