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Destor 03-19-2021 06:40 PM

90 min in. 150 to go.

Seanny One Ball 03-19-2021 06:59 PM

Steppenwolf: This one will be mine!
Wonder Woman: I belong to no one...

There's Zack Snyder in a sound bite.
Feminism is when a woman misunderstands a man and snaps back at him.
He's not trying to possess you love, he wants to kill you.

From the man that brought you Sucker Punch.

Seanny One Ball 03-19-2021 07:03 PM

How come Batman has a giant mechanical crab that lives underground?

I didn't see Jon Peters name on this...

Damian Rey 2.0 03-19-2021 09:09 PM

Destor and Seanny are correct about Snyder’s understanding or lack thereof about how these characters would act. That said I still enjoyed the movie and think it’s good even if it’s not accurate or faithful to the source material.

Seanny One Ball 03-19-2021 09:45 PM

He's really good at fight scenes and action in general.
He just needs a collaborator who can do the story for him.

Destor 03-19-2021 10:10 PM

yeah he can frame an action sequence well enough.

Damian Rey 2.0 03-19-2021 10:20 PM

I think the story in this film was probably his best. Everything made sense and outside of some shots lingering on too long, this was a good story, IMO. The problem is it should absolutely not take 4 hours to get there. I can accept it for this film given its scope, scale and how many previously undefined characters it had to introduce and develop. But Snyder couldn’t tell good, concise stories in his previous DC efforts.

owenbunny 03-19-2021 11:11 PM

Bad Bunny should play Batman


https://media4.giphy.com/media/QJZJY...Slaj/giphy.gif

Destor 03-20-2021 12:10 AM

watchmen and 300 are both reasonably good. this...pretty low. needlessly 4 hours...oof. what a fucking nightmare. among the worst paced films ive ever seen. literally only exists to validate itself to the fandom that rejected the whedon cut. if i ranked all his films this would be at the bottom based strictly on the run time. zero justification for it. sucker punch had more cohesion.

Damian Rey 2.0 03-20-2021 12:21 AM

Watchmen and 300 were pre written and essentially pre framed for Snyder. They are two of his better films but that’s because they’re not original ideas. It’s a prime example of how good he can be when ideas and storylines are reigned in and filtered for him.

Lock Jaw 03-20-2021 01:24 AM

Just because.... tonight I watched the theatrical version of Justice League and once again really enjoyed it, even more than I remember. It is really like night and day how much it is better....

Damian Rey 2.0 03-20-2021 02:02 AM

Lol strongly disagree. I watched it a few months ago and while it’s not bad, it’s boring and uninteresting. It was also a jarring left turn from the tone of the previous 2 movies. But to each their own.

Lock Jaw 03-20-2021 02:03 AM

To each their own.







But your opinion is wrong and you should feel bad. :shifty:

Seanny One Ball 03-20-2021 06:41 AM

Sucker Punch was so fucking bad Destor.
Seriously bad.

Seanny One Ball 03-20-2021 06:41 AM

Men are awful bastards: The Movie.

Destor 03-20-2021 07:13 AM

i agree completely


still has immensely better pacing than this needlessly 4 hour monstrosity and its thematically more consistent.

Damian Rey 2.0 03-20-2021 10:21 AM

I think I’d have to work really hard to find somebody woo has anything nice to say about sucker punch

Lock Jaw 03-20-2021 12:17 PM

Theatrical Cut: *starts with a nice upbeat scene showing Henry Cavil Superman actually smiling and being "light" for once*

Snyder Cut: *starts with a very prolonged extended and dour scene following the super-sonic death scream of Superman*

Damian Rey 2.0 03-20-2021 01:28 PM

That Superman opening never made sense. At no point was he ever presented that way in two previous movies. He probably should’ve been but randomly inserting that big of a character change was weird.

Lock Jaw 03-20-2021 02:13 PM

So because Superman sucked in the previous movies it's the wrong move to try to course correct with him a bit and make him enjoyable for once?

Damian Rey 2.0 03-20-2021 03:01 PM

No but there needs to be a transition to that point. This is a Superman that said “nothing stays good in this world” or some nonsense like that in BVS and died an hour out or so later in the movie. To go from that and the idea that he was always presented as conflicted about his own existence and purpose to randomly being jovial and friendly and beloved when he really wasn’t is jarring and dumb. Him coming back to life and wanting to know why he’s getting a second chance and deciding to be Superman this time around and all the dad talk as he was picking his suit was a way better but more subtle move towards being the Superman he’s supposed to be.

If they had eliminated that part and just went with how they presented Superman after he came back I think it works better. It was kinda corny but I did like Superman at the end of the Whedon cut. And even that wouldn’t fit with where Snyder was obviously going with the story, I get why it was changed since there was zero plans to ever revisit the Snyder world and the original JL was supposed to be a quiet ending.

Seanny One Ball 03-20-2021 03:07 PM

I didn't mean to suggest that Destor liked Sucker Punch earlier btw.
I would never do that to somebody on purpose.

Damian Rey 2.0 03-20-2021 03:14 PM

Oh I know he didn’t. He’s merely using it’s awfulness to highlight how full he feels Snyder JL is.

Lock Jaw 03-20-2021 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damian Rey 2.0 (Post 5437498)
No but there needs to be a transition to that point. This is a Superman that said “nothing stays good in this world” or some nonsense like that in BVS and died an hour out or so later in the movie. To go from that and the idea that he was always presented as conflicted about his own existence and purpose to randomly being jovial and friendly and beloved when he really wasn’t is jarring and dumb. Him coming back to life and wanting to know why he’s getting a second chance and deciding to be Superman this time around and all the dad talk as he was picking his suit was a way better but more subtle move towards being the Superman he’s supposed to be.

If they had eliminated that part and just went with how they presented Superman after he came back I think it works better. It was kinda corny but I did like Superman at the end of the Whedon cut. And even that wouldn’t fit with where Snyder was obviously going with the story, I get why it was changed since there was zero plans to ever revisit the Snyder world and the original JL was supposed to be a quiet ending.

Dunno... feel like there is absolutely zero wrong with course correcting his character, even if it doesn't match with what we have seen. It's a movie, I can "suspend my disbelief" and just think "Ok, so he can smile and be light they just haven't shown us those parts". Actually good to show it because it actually hammered the point home of "yeah people would actually miss this guy" whereas the Superman of the last two movies I feel there would be a large mix of relief from the general public that he is gone.

Lock Jaw 03-20-2021 03:47 PM

It's like saying you want to see the transition of Joker from tattooed "gangster" in Suicide Squad to the more "traditional" type Joker at the end of this.

Nah, I don't really care, just give me what I want.

Lock Jaw 03-20-2021 03:53 PM

Or in Iron Man 3 how Tony "gives up" being Iron Man at the end but then is back at it with no explanation for the next Avengers.... I don't really care

Seanny One Ball 03-20-2021 06:09 PM

Tony Stork would have been a good name.

Because he could fly.

Destor 03-20-2021 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 5437493)
So because Superman sucked in the previous movies it's the wrong move to try to course correct with him a bit and make him enjoyable for once?

nailed it. superman being the beacon of hope is a bad thing why

Destor 03-20-2021 06:20 PM

snyder got these characters wrong. throwing his work in the trash and having them be who we paid to see cant possibly be the wrong call

Damian Rey 2.0 03-21-2021 01:12 PM

I don’t think course correcting is wrong. I think shoehorning in a version of the character into a movie that was clearly butchered and randomly pretending the divisive version of the character didn’t exist was jarring and weird. I also think Snyder sucked with his previous handling of Superman. I get the idea of exploring his personal existential problems if you think he’s a Jesus allegory but it shouldn’t take almost 9 hours of film to get there.

Lock Jaw 03-25-2021 12:55 PM

For anyone waiting for the complete Snyder artistic vision, his 4:3 black and white "Justice is Gray" edition is now out!!!!

Destor 03-25-2021 02:46 PM

lol cant believe thats not a joke

Destor 03-25-2021 02:46 PM

i mean it is a joke but its also real

Damian Rey 2.0 03-25-2021 09:44 PM

Yeah no thanks. I think getting his 4 hour self wank job release is more than enough. I saw someone time all the slow motion and it’s 10% of the movie. 24 minutes of slow motion lol. For the flash scenes I get it but lmao at 24 minutes.

Damian Rey 2.0 03-25-2021 10:34 PM

Starting to see the Snyder cult come outta the woodwork and pretending Snyder didn’t deliver 2 underwhelming, underperforming and extremely divisive films prior to this. It was 5 years ago but the biggest story going into BVS opening weekend was all the terrible reviews and how the audience scores were not good. And that the drop off in second week box office was abysmal.

I’m glad Snyder got to release his version and did it his way, but these fucks are pretending he’s some savant filmmaker who was wronged by a studio that produced the Dark Knight trilogy as if they weren’t right to reign him in after singing and missing on a new Superman movie and the first Superman Batman team up.

Seanny One Ball 03-25-2021 11:37 PM

He got us to watch a four hour version of a film we had already seen, mate.

Zack Snyder actually wins this round.

Seanny One Ball 03-25-2021 11:37 PM

The black and white victory lap is just him rubbing his cock in our faces

Damian Rey 2.0 03-26-2021 12:55 AM

Oh I’m happy he’s got to release his version. It’s too long, there’s too much slow motion and some repetitive or needlessly long scenes that don’t end soon enough, BUT I enjoyed the hell out of it and felt it was a far better, more realized film than the WB mandated Whedon cut. Snyder getting a victory lap is fine by me.

It’s his awful worst of the worse minions that I can’t stand.

Ruien 04-11-2021 10:26 PM

3 hours into the movie. Its long but its good. I don't remember the first one really. This one is enjoyable though. 4 hours is just to damn long though for any movie.

Destor 04-13-2021 09:51 AM

of those who watched it only 36% of viewers managed to finish the snyder cut

Ruien 04-13-2021 12:36 PM

Finished it. I dont remember the first movie but this movie was fun. Wouldn't mind the universe to continue in this fashion but you can't release a 4 hour movie into theaters.

Damian Rey 2.0 04-13-2021 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destor (Post 5445294)
of those who watched it only 36% of viewers managed to finish the snyder cut

Not surprising at all. The Snyder cut appealed to a segment of the comic book community and not the general audience. I only know a handful of people who’ve watched it in its entirety. Most people I know who have HBO Max haven’t even started it because of its run time.

Destor 07-20-2022 08:04 PM

Turns out the #releasethesnydercut was fuelled by marketing bots LUL

Lock Jaw 01-31-2025 01:57 AM

Decided to put myself through this again and didn't mind it as much this time.... the beginning and the epilogue are still slogs, but the middle bits are alright.

I feel like I have "come to accept" the "dour tone" of the Snyder movies now that they are "done" and I can just view them as an "Elseworlds" type story and not as the "definitive" or "canon" version of the universe. Taking it as an "Elseworlds" story, I now think it is "too bad" that the story will never be finished.

Seanny One Ball 01-31-2025 11:46 AM

You have spent ten hours of your life watching the same film and it wasn't even the one about how far an item travels when you order it from China online.

Lock Jaw 01-31-2025 05:43 PM

I've spent more than 10 hours watching the same film

Seanny One Ball 02-01-2025 12:26 PM

Like a toddler

Lock Jaw 02-01-2025 12:29 PM

I dare you to say that there is no film that you have watched multiple times as an adult.

Seanny One Ball 02-01-2025 12:39 PM

Not for over ten hours in three viewings.

I don't watch films over and over again unless there's a damn good reason. I did once watch "The Sum Of All Fears" for about 5 hours just because the commentary track bumped it up several notches ahead of the standard audio.

Seanny One Ball 02-01-2025 12:45 PM

I must have seen "Dickie Roberts: Former Child Star" five or six times, "Rat Race" too. Mostly from unexpected periods of sobriety in my twenties. There's also a film called "The Rocker" with Rainn Wilson that I kicked the arsenal out of when drinking heavily... and possibly "Easy A" too.

Drunks are exempt from that sort of scrutiny though.
What'syour excuse?

Lock Jaw 02-01-2025 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seanny One Ball (Post 5646226)
Not for over ten hours in three viewings.

I don't watch films over and over again unless there's a damn good reason. I did once watch "The Sum Of All Fears" for about 5 hours just because the commentary track bumped it up several notches ahead of the standard audio.

Well obviously I didn't watch this two times in a row.

Lock Jaw 02-01-2025 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seanny One Ball (Post 5646227)
I must have seen "Dickie Roberts: Former Child Star" five or six times, "Rat Race" too. Mostly from unexpected periods of sobriety in my twenties. There's also a film called "The Rocker" with Rainn Wilson that I kicked the arsenal out of when drinking heavily... and possibly "Easy A" too.

Drunks are exempt from that sort of scrutiny though.
What's your excuse?

So you have seen the same movie for over 10 hours.

Seanny One Ball 02-02-2025 06:19 AM

It’s possible but based on that post you are bad at basic multiplication.
“Rat Race” is the longest film on that list and it’s not even two hours long.


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