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CBright7831 03-27-2022 02:08 PM

I've been reading through the forums that I post on that are still out there and the consensus on HHH seems to be a mixed bag. Some are praising him fondly, some are also in the middle, and some are happy and not shedding a tear that his career is over. Fair enough. I barely watched RAW from late 2002 to early 2004, because he was using that show as his personal playground (he still used the show as his sandbox until 2005.) I'm also thankful for all that he did BTS at NXT. How many of the stars there are now the top stars in WWE? HHH deserves all the praise he's getting, but that doesn't mean he can't be called out on his many shortcomings too. I'm not going to wish death on a guy, because he went over some guy twenty years ago in professional wrestling. I'm glad that he's better as he's lucky to still be alive right now.

Much respect to HHH.

Ol Dirty Dastard 03-27-2022 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by CBright7831 (Post 5534908)
I'm not going to wish death on a guy, because he went over some guy twenty years ago in professional wrestling.

Has any reasonable critic wished death upon him? I'm assuming Ronic may have but I don't read that nonsense.

It's good to know he's feeling better because...well...he's a human being.

I just don't think his official retirement deserves much hullabaloo. Why did he feel the need to even fucking announce it when bigger stars than him have walked away without the pomp and circumstance?

That doesn't mean I begrudge him his fans. If you like him, he earned it. But I'm not about to start mythologizing a motherfucker because he retired when he was already retired in everything but name. Wrestling once or twice a year is retired. Especially the shitty way he'd been wrestling those couple times a year and all the air time his horrible matches hogged up.

And IMO it's necessary to push back on the aggrandizing of someone who already is far too aggrandized, despite being pretty good in his prime (but definitely not any good anymore).

CBright7831 03-27-2022 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Ol Dirty Dastard (Post 5534928)
Has any reasonable critic wished death upon him? I'm assuming Ronic may have but I don't read that nonsense.
.

Oh yeah. There's other posters on other forums that I post on that have come just short of wishing he dropped dead. The internet can be a terrible place.

Quote:

It's good to know he's feeling better because...well...he's a human being.

I just don't think his official retirement deserves much hullabaloo. Why did he feel the need to even fucking announce it when bigger stars than him have walked away without the pomp and circumstance?

That doesn't mean I begrudge him his fans. If you like him, he earned it. But I'm not about to start mythologizing a motherfucker because he retired when he was already retired in everything but name. Wrestling once or twice a year is retired. Especially the shitty way he'd been wrestling those couple times a year and all the air time his horrible matches hogged up.

And IMO it's necessary to push back on the aggrandizing of someone who already is far too aggrandized, despite being pretty good in his prime (but definitely not any good anymore)
When he beat Booker T at Mania 19, I thought it was BS and was sort of livid about it. HHH basically played a racist during that entire program and then went out and beat Booker cleanly. If they weren't going to put the belt on Book, maybe they should have just ran a different angle.

When he derailed Punk's "Summer of Punk" run in 2011, I complained about it like a number of people. Punk went a long with it and never complained about it until he walked out. Speaking up in the moment helps.

When he pinned Sting in the middle of the ring at Mania, I rolled my eyes. Sting should've kept up on his hunch that the E was going to do something screwy with him or worked out a better deal. Nobody wanted to see Sting/HHH anyway... they wanted Sting/Undertaker.

The point is: I got over it, and none of it really matters to me anymore nor does it bother me. Booker went on to become Champion later on and he's in the HOF now. So is Sting. Punk went on to try UFC and he seems happy enough in AEW. They all worked out for the best.

Holding a grudge over something that happened in a scripted sport close to twenty years ago just seems petty to me.

Ol Dirty Dastard 03-27-2022 05:51 PM

I mean he is an asshole and is also overrated. Is that really holding a grudge or just saying how you feel about someone based on their actions?

RaginRonic 03-27-2022 11:44 PM

It's just that, to me, H ripped off both the Hart Family and all of Canada's WWE fans by rising to ascendancy over Owen's lifeless corpse. And ripping us off in Canada leads me to not just slap the hand of someone who does that, but chop it off.

H had no business taking from the Harts.

He also had no business taking from those here in Canada who are true fans of WWE.

And if this is the Era of Accountability, then I figure he needs to make proper amends for that shit. Not the amends he wants to make either....the ones he's told to make by someone else, who's not in WWE.

And the whole health issue with him? I just simply noticed the irony of how 'heart' and 'Hart' are closely spelled, and I guess I just rode with it. Because, you know, fuck it.

:|

weather vane 03-28-2022 12:19 AM

What?

Jordan 03-28-2022 12:40 AM

lmao

Fignuts 03-28-2022 02:04 AM

Oh my fucking god

Mr. JL 03-28-2022 02:45 AM

Triple H = STEROIDS

There is no fucking way a drug free, clean and "naturally" fitness orientated healthy human being of 50 suddenly has catastrophic congestive heart failure and a defibrillator permanently inserted into their heart, who has not dabbled in A LOT of prolonged STEROID usage! And I mean; there must have been A LOT of over usage!

Especially in the later years when you compare his physique to the Wellness Policy years.

I hope him health and happiness and I don't wish him death and there are moments in his career that I enjoyed and a lot more moments I fucking hated but there is no way this is simply a genetic defect that suddenly manifested. This is Steroids.

At 50, he had a superior looking physique than wrestlers 10, 20 and 30 years younger. There is nothing normal or natural about that; especially when it is suddenly accompanied by life threatening ailments.

Bad News Gertner 03-28-2022 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by RaginRonic (Post 5535104)
It's just that, to me, H ripped off both the Hart Family and all of Canada's WWE fans by rising to ascendancy over Owen's lifeless corpse. And ripping us off in Canada leads me to not just slap the hand of someone who does that, but chop it off.

H had no business taking from the Harts.

He also had no business taking from those here in Canada who are true fans of WWE.

And if this is the Era of Accountability, then I figure he needs to make proper amends for that shit. Not the amends he wants to make either....the ones he's told to make by someone else, who's not in WWE.

And the whole health issue with him? I just simply noticed the irony of how 'heart' and 'Hart' are closely spelled, and I guess I just rode with it. Because, you know, fuck it.

:|

Exactly

Sepholio 03-28-2022 07:14 AM

Well said.

Jordan 03-28-2022 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. JL (Post 5535130)
Triple H = STEROIDS

There is no fucking way a drug free, clean and "naturally" fitness orientated healthy human being of 50 suddenly has catastrophic congestive heart failure and a defibrillator permanently inserted into their heart, who has not dabbled in A LOT of prolonged STEROID usage! And I mean; there must have been A LOT of over usage!

Especially in the later years when you compare his physique to the Wellness Policy years.

I hope him health and happiness and I don't wish him death and there are moments in his career that I enjoyed and a lot more moments I fucking hated but there is no way this is simply a genetic defect that suddenly manifested. This is Steroids.



At 50, he had a superior looking physique than wrestlers 10, 20 and 30 years younger. There is nothing normal or natural about that; especially when it is suddenly accompanied by life threatening ailments.

Triple H was in the bodybuilding scene from an early age and if you look at his body changes over the years you can almost certainly say he used steroids nearly the entire time, the exception is possibly his first WWF run where they were very strict on testing.

Also I think that because of his body building background he probably abused HGH to a very unsafe level, it's quite common among meatheads. They will often use a fat cutting drug as well which keeps your heart rate at a high level for a long time so that you are constantly sweating and thus cutting water weight.

I think that after 2010 he probably wasn't using typical "steroids" in the same way he and other did in the 90's. Once he was in his 40's he probably started using TRT (testosterone replacement therapy) which is legal and acceptable under WWE's drug rules. At a certain age men stop producing large amounts of testosterone so you can get it artificially from a medical procedure. This is what a lot of MMA fighters and older athletes use to stay in the game and probably why Triple H looked so much better in his later years than in his real steroid days where he was so swole and blown up like he got stung by a shit ton of bees.

XL 03-28-2022 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. JL (Post 5535130)
Triple H = STEROIDS

There is no fucking way a drug free, clean and "naturally" fitness orientated healthy human being of 50 suddenly has catastrophic congestive heart failure and a defibrillator permanently inserted into their heart, who has not dabbled in A LOT of prolonged STEROID usage! And I mean; there must have been A LOT of over usage!

Especially in the later years when you compare his physique to the Wellness Policy years.

I hope him health and happiness and I don't wish him death and there are moments in his career that I enjoyed and a lot more moments I fucking hated but there is no way this is simply a genetic defect that suddenly manifested. This is Steroids.

At 50, he had a superior looking physique than wrestlers 10, 20 and 30 years younger. There is nothing normal or natural about that; especially when it is suddenly accompanied by life threatening ailments.

In the interview he explains that his father, grandfather, and great-grandfather all died of heart issues/sudden death. He also mentions that his heart is enlarged “like many athletes” which made me laugh as he clearly got the words athletes and steroid users mixed up.

James Steele 03-28-2022 12:25 PM

https://health.clevelandclinic.org/a...larged-hearts/

#1-norm-fan 03-28-2022 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by #1-norm-fan (Post 5534867)
I think he’s referencing Triple H mentioning “people giving their life for this business” in a promo soon after Owen died.

Man, I am SO glad I was wrong about Ronic’s reasoning.

Destor 03-28-2022 05:35 PM

steroids are great. everyone should use them. except candians. fuck those guys

#1-norm-fan 03-28-2022 05:57 PM

I agree. A Canadian on steroids is just a pussy who apologizes with a more intense passion.

Destor 03-28-2022 06:00 PM

or he strnagles his family. it could really go either way

#1-norm-fan 03-28-2022 06:04 PM

They’re an extreme people.

Corporate CockSnogger 03-29-2022 03:20 AM

Looking at this thread and on Twitter, Triple H is by far the most underrated wrestler on the internet. People make out like he’s a 1* wrestler that banged his way to the top when in reality he’s a 4 or 5* wrestler that banged his way to the top. Which honestly is great for him. Finding a hot braud you want to settle down and make a family with, and getting to the top of your chosen profession are pretty much the top two achievements in life, and Triple H killed two birds with one stone.

Stu Hart 03-29-2022 11:38 AM

Steroids fucked him up - good.

Mid-carder who buddied it up with Michaels ,and got lucky he with the bosses daughter. There has never been a HHH organic HHH moment worth talking about.

He has been fortunate to be lumped in with super-stars but nobody paid to see him.

fuck him..

Big Vic 05-11-2022 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. JL (Post 5535130)
Triple H = STEROIDS

There is no fucking way a drug free, clean and "naturally" fitness orientated healthy human being of 50 suddenly has catastrophic congestive heart failure and a defibrillator permanently inserted into their heart, who has not dabbled in A LOT of prolonged STEROID usage! And I mean; there must have been A LOT of over usage!

Especially in the later years when you compare his physique to the Wellness Policy years.

I hope him health and happiness and I don't wish him death and there are moments in his career that I enjoyed and a lot more moments I fucking hated but there is no way this is simply a genetic defect that suddenly manifested. This is Steroids.

At 50, he had a superior looking physique than wrestlers 10, 20 and 30 years younger. There is nothing normal or natural about that; especially when it is suddenly accompanied by life threatening ailments.

Remember when they took Chris Masters off steroids and Roided up HHH laughed at him for looking smaller?

Bad News Gertner 05-11-2022 02:06 PM

Chris Masters went off Steroids because he went to drug rehab and took up distance running to help with his recovery.

HHH made a joke out of that

Ol Dirty Dastard 05-11-2022 03:27 PM

Pretty typical of him.

Mr. Nerfect 05-11-2022 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bad News Gertner (Post 5548150)
Chris Masters went off Steroids because he went to drug rehab and took up distance running to help with his recovery.

HHH made a joke out of that

How many times has Triple H saved his mother from a burning house?


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