I think your best arguement in that whole post was the fact you corrected my grammer. I'm sorry the mistake was unable to get my point across, and I have fixed the mistake. You're right, the analogy sounds ridiculous, but so does the thought of having to have seperate controllers for different games.

How has Sony's EyeToy done? Not so well. So who is to say this is innovating. It's the same thing right? You use your movements to play the games.

The thing I don't understand is why you are taking this so personal. I stated in the first post that I haven't held one so I am not going to say it won't work, but my first impressions are unwanting. Sorry if I offended you. I also took extra precaution to have proper grammer in this post, as we all know the internet is not a place for mistakes.

[QUOTE=Jonster]And you do?

If you're just using the remote, you have easy acess to two buttons. What's that, a big A button on the front, and a big B button on the back. Why that's two buttons right there, oh my.
Who's to say you'll even need a button to jump, when you could just lift the controller, then you only need one button (for kick - in your example).
The joystick, which doesn't have to be used, has two extra buttons on the front of it as well.


My point was that for certain games, such as wrestling, results may vary.

because for games such as wrestling, you need access to all buttons, yes? And holding the controller like a cock is not a very comfortable way.

Also, on the "jump and kick" example...controls for games like Devil May cry are crucial. You start blasting them with Triangle, then jump and keep blasting with triangle, then press R1 to change weapon and keep blasting.

You see for such games you need to be fast with handling, and having 2 buttons like 3 feet away form the A button is not gonna help.

Also, what about carpal tunnel syndrome? Do they have that in Japan or are they in for a surprise when it's released?

I wonder if they gave this to a focus group as well and if it actually passed. I hope there isn't a website that answers all these common questions, that I just happen to have as well, that I'm missing.

I didn't say anything about spelling. :p

I meant that this could cause carpal tunnel with the constant wrist flicking and movement. After watching the conference and the video they played, I believe they are going to be using the controller for the next Mario game and we all know how much you have to jump in a Mario game.

Again, I haven't tried it so I don't know how it will feel, but there seems to be a lot of concern from all types of gamers.

It seems to me like this is a truly terrible idea. I bet no-one has ever picked up their remote and gone "wow if this was a controller it would be great". If anyone has been on one of those airplanes with games in the headsets then you'll also have some experience. Basically its a phone (practically same shape as a remote) and a controller in one. And its shit. But you know you're stuck on a 12hr flight and its free so you don't care.

Also all this "movement is great" idea is a bit rubbish. Eyetoys as mentioned have proven to be temperamental at best. EVEN IF movement is improved why go down such a shitty shaped route. The technology could have been put into a conventional shaped controller. WIN WIN. Why does it NEED to be this awful shape.

when DOES it come out? All this controller talk and the thought never even occured to me.

Not for a while. They said that if you go to E3 and you don't play a Revolution game then it's they would be surprised. So they will at least have playable versions by summer next year. Maybe around this time next year or so.

http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/8...lutioncont.jpg

*jumps back on Nintendo bandwagon*

Besides the fact that it looks pretty stupid just shoved in there, I guess you get the best of both worlds.

Now that's more like it. They better make that D-pad bigger, though. It's retardedly small on the GC pad.

AHHHHHH, There we go!!

Refreshed.

I just saw that on IGNCube, too bad it's not the real thing though because that would be awesome :(

But there will be a controller cradle, so it's all good :drool:

rofl

And we thought Nintendo would let us down.

I'm sorry, it's obviously Jesus in a can, because you're creaming yourself over it.

Wonder if you'll still have your cock out when the onvelty wears off.

In the interest of fairness...

Don't we have "light guns?" DDR mats (Which started iwth the NES)? Headsets? Keyboards? Don't we already have "separate controllers?"

Allz we need now is a SUPA DUPA WANKING game.

Doesn't look liek they're going for practicality.

http://content.ytmnd.com//153000/153371/image.jpg
Look kinda odd but I'd MUCH prefer to use this.

I give you the DDR mats but the others aren't needed. But you're right. The docking case will be nice, I just don't see why they wouldn't go straight to that and put the sensors on it.

Seems like my vascillating fanboyism is back in full strength.

None of them are "needed," unless you want to play specific games. The thign is, there's a history of this stuff (I forgot a few, such as the SNES' mouse), whether it's necessary or not. Or even if we like 'em.

I think the idea of sliding the remote into the Rev controller is dumb, but it's better than nothing.

I just hope they support this better than the NDS. Hate to say it, but the only bad thing I can say about the DS is the lack of fucking GAMES.

Wait, tilt your head to the right when looking at the first pic.

ZOMG!

Note: I haven't read any articles, seen any promos, or whatever.

Howabout this. Stop being an idiot fanboy, and I'll stop taking the opposing side.

I don't know how you fucktards don't notice this, but I've actually taken both sides on this issue in relation to the extremists. So sit down, shut up, stop being part of the problem, and I'll have less to react to. Sweet Jesus, y'all are fucking dense.

This wasn't the first nail. Nintendo's made some bad decisions over time. People will forget the shit, but remember the "innovation."

They've damaged their rep over the years, and still come out of the box strong normally. The thing that worries me is that most of their "advances" have happened in the form of peripherals or side projects. For example, they didn't stop making for the Game Boy because the new "Virtual Boy" came out, and the actual GBA's successor isn't out yet (Meaning the DS isn't it). Other advances were less heavy-handed, such as peripherals, or analog sticks that were largely optional early on.

This one, however, is a core system.

...Until they announce it's the new "fourth pillar," and sell us the Gamecube Micro which will be 50% smaller and have faceplates, but no new technology or ports for the GBA player or LANpipe.

so like...there's two available controllers now?

or like, you shove the remote in the controller and you get more buttons or something for certain games...like...hm? :confused:

Instead of a second controller, they sell a shell which you drop the remote into.

Tilt your head to the fucking right when looking at the pictures.

Yes, yes, it flips on its side to become an old-school Nintendo controller :roll:

ZOMG

Isn't that going to be horribly awkward considering the motion sensor (unless I've missed something) is at the top of the remote? What are you supposed to do, play sitting side-on?

The Game cube one is an Idea of what IGN thinks the shell will look like......If Nintendo doesn't sell the shell with the Revolution then they are dumbasses.

Unless of course, you're playing the old school NES games that are going to be available for download. :roll:

I figure the sensors would be disabled for the NES games :-\

:roll:

Really? You mean they won't be analog controlled and mostion sensitive?

I'll go out on a limb and say yes :o

Yea, too bad the IGN wavebird looking thing is just a photoshop thing.

One thing I haven't seen mention of yet, is what if I start playing a motion sensor game sitting up straight. Then, after playing a while, I lean back or maybe even lean forward. What if I tilt my body over to one side to get more comfortable. What if I pause it, get up and go to the bathroom, then come back and do not sit in the same position I was in before. In other words, if it calibrates itself based on the starting position, what happens when you change positions. Will you have to sit perfectly still to play? Will you contstantly have to pause and recalibrate? It is built to not only sense up, down, left, and right, but also back, forwards, etc. So it will definitly notice when I lean back in my chair. Is Samus going to tilt her head back when I do that?

I'd be very interested to try it out, but it's not looking so promising at this point.

Depends on how you change positions, I suppose.

I do the same thing though. Idoubt you'll have to be perfectly straight to play.

Nintendo say hello to Sega

I agree that it doesn't sound like a logical problem when talking about a game controller, but I can't imagine how they'll get around it.

If it is anything like having to deal with a Guncon, I don't want to be a part of it.

Personal attacks, whatever your brand persuasion, will not be tolerated in the VG forum. It's a VG controller not the last toilet roll fellas, it aint worth it.

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Monday, September 19, 2005 - Walked into a doorknob.


New comic. Now before you get your e-trigger finger on that send button, just hear me out.

I'd be lying if I said I wasn't a little bit excited to see what games come out for the new controller. Still it's an iffy idea at best. I always feel like a battered wife with Nintendo. As much as they beat the shit out of me, I still love them.

The first thought that crossed my mind when I looked at it was, "How the fuck do I play smash brothers on that?!". Enter the peripherals. Which I am sure to be a first in a long line. Here are just a few ideas floating around. Money grab? Golly no.

As well the one thing this device isn't, is revolutionary. If you've ever been to an arcade you can see stuff like this all over the place. Sword simulators, gun games, tennis, soccer, fire hoses, etc.. It's not breaking any new ground. Hell, there are even peripherals just like this.

The fact is Nintendo is on very shaky ground with the Gamecube. Awesome in handhelds but wow, trouble in consoles. Some of the games this systems has are fantastic. However they are few and FAR between.

Now you might call this a risk Nintendo is willing to make. Wind Waker was a risk. This is near suicide. I loved Wind Waker but many people were turned off by it . The same way people are being turned off by the new controller. If you're looking to pull in new customers this just isn't the way to do it. So there's the mantra that they're "Focused on making games". Which is why I wouldn't be surprised if they pulled out of consoles.

This is all speculation of course. Might end up liking the damn thing. God knows I've been wrong before. These are my views and I'm probably not going to change them until I try the Rev. Make your own decisions.

Just one last thing. This is the silliest promo video ever. There's such a thing as too excited. Direct hate mail over here.


</TD></TR><TR><TD bgColor=#003252>Thursday, September 15, 2005 11:18 PM - Nintendo just died

Nintendo's new controller is out. Congratulations Nintendo, you've created what looks like a sex toy. Complete with rumble pack. Well, it was a fun company while it lasted.


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Mackem, this IS life or death. If the controller requires too much movement, I won't be able to whack off later.

Take it to the masturbation forum Kane Knight, you know your penis doesn't sit well with me :shifty:

It doesn't sit at all...With you...:shifty:

Please take not that that's NOT REAL ;)

The cradle will be made, but that's just a design thrown together by the guy at IGNCube

From Penny Arcade

We're obviously late to the Revolution Party, but so many people asked us what we thought of the controller announcement.


The first thing we thought of is what the Fruit Fucker would look like were he released today. If you don't have any white plastic on your consumer device, apparently you are some kind of retarded. Get some white plastic on there. That is the impression one would get. Sony grudgingly recognized it with the original PSP - glossy black machine, yes, but white strap and headphones. Ultimately, concession would make way to something like redaction.


The wireless at the hotel would never deliver unto me the full teaser video, so until we got back I was never able to see how far the thinking had gotten over there. They had, as I suggested, earned a little bit of optimism from me by making the DS - which I thought of as Exhibit A in Nintendo vs. Sanity - something I've come to consider kind of necessary. So looking at the video made me see that they were already thinking about what you could do with two positional controllers at the very least. The counterexample I keep hearing about the peripheral has to do with third parties, and how scary the controller is, but for a couple generations now their systems have been (at least, outside of Japan) a kind of dedicated shrine to their own games, games that shame the rest of the industry with their polish, their palette, and their playability. They forge unique deals with companies like Capcom and SquareEnix to bring sometimes extraordinary exclusive content. I can live with that.


There were initial cries and lamentations regarding the announcement, but I think we need to just accept the fact that they are no longer playing the linear game their competitors are. The control looks like a remote, yes, but we've talked about this before - playing games with pens, drums, and now remote controls draws the artifacts of ordinary life into the increasingly byzantine realm of electronic entertainment. Excuse me, I forgot. It's not innovation unless it involves another texture pass.


This is outside the ordinary either/or propositions that define our passtime. The either/or proposition is the PS3 or the 360, digital entertainment hubs that represent beachheads in some war for the living room.


We won't know until E3 the extent to which Nintendo is prepared to realize the promise of their strange excursion - it took them a year to prove their DS. The final word on why they would do something like this can be found over at Lost Garden. That is probably the most interesting article I've ever read.

It's taken them over a year. Most of the games that will prove the DS are still just promises.

:rofl:

(followed link from the VGcats post)

http://www.monstergecko.com/products.html

That gun looks really cool. :o

lol @ nunchuku contorller

It looks like a tampon or possibly some sort of vibrator. Maybe they are marketing more to teen girls or something.

:shifty: