I will say however, Rocky Maivia and The Ringmaster were floundering and boring to watch at one point. He just needs a change. Decent matches are better than crappy matches. The importance in all this lies in his character, his overall performance and his ability to entertain. At the moment, he just needs to become more entertaining and not as low rent. His current caliber of matches would be fine, since 5 stars doesn't put the asses in seats as much as entertainment paired with decent work does.

From where I sit, the only thing Benoit has brought to the table in his program with MVP, is that he goes along with the matches, understands what the point of MVP's psychology is, and he co-operates. Benoit certainly hasn't been sleeping through the matches, but an idiot can see that they are designed to be vehicles for MVP to strut his stuff, and strut it well he has.

Vince wins, wtf.

What. No.

hahaha what!

Vince!

hahahaha.

Major heel heat, now, im interested.

WTF?

Great development, and I'm not kidding.

I'm calling bullshit on that.

I love it.

Hahahaha! I love the way Vince seems to actually have his heart (if not his mind) in the right place for his feuds, then he sticks around a little bit more than he needs to, and then he does shit like this which just fucks everything up.

The only way this will be anywhere near decent, is if Elijah Burke or CM Punk is presented with the belt by Vince McMahon on ECW this week.

As long as this advance his fued with Lashley, puts big heel heat on him and it actually does somethin for ECW I'm happy.

Perhaps a tournament to crow a new champion...while moving Lashley off of ECW to further his fued with McMahon...

AWESOME

I think it's great!

Vince McMahon is a 2 time world champion

ROFL. Anti-wagon jumper becuase what? YOu all are acting like MVP has done something do deserve merit? So, in a way I guess yo're right. Either way you're either on the bandwagon or you're not. And I am not.

You see my point though. They are vehicles for MVP to good, to look like a star, somehting that he is not. They are creating a star, but just like Cena, Lashey, and others are not true stars, they're forced. They're fake. And that's the same path MVP is wlaking. The path of yet another wrestler that just inst what is advertised.

Benoit has made him look good. (And believe it or not, good wrestlers can do that.) MVP will come out of this shinning, becaused that how propoganda works, to push an idea onto your sheep, in this case, that MVP is a tlented athlete.

Hahaha. Vince and Shane with the ECW Originals is excellent.

Lets just wait and see eh?

That actually isn't a bad idea. Bobby Lashley really hasn't been a part of ECW. There is no real compelling reason to keep him there.

CM Punk, Elijah Burke, Kevin Thorn, Marcus Cor Von, Matt Striker, Rob Van Dam, Sabu, Tommy Dreamer, The Sandman and Snitsky should all be a part of the tournament. That's 10 guys, which is kind of messy. Maybe some kind of theme where they get everyone in ECW, put them into a competition, where once you are pinned or submit, you are out of contention. At the end of the competition, there will only be one name left, and he will be ECW World Champion.

So yeah, kind of like a tournament, only with no formal structure.

I was so hoping for a Samone spike on McMahon

I can see a good feud developing there, would be great to see one of the originals beat Vince, good story there.

Been doing that for monthes now, and after he's been tested by a REAL athlete (Benoit) on a huge stage (Mania) it's time to weigh in on him.

It's not set in stone though, he's full of potential. But potential is worthless.

I would mark the fuck out for Vince vs. RVD in an Extreme Rules Match, where the Originals just beat the shit out of Vince, and RVD then gets the pin and wins back the belt.

If Vince was willing to get his ass kicked good by the them, and The Undertaker was willing to stop being a pussy bitch because he doesn't like The Sandman, it would get RVD, Sabu, Tommy Dreamer and The Sandman over as legitimate WWE Superstars (moreso).

WE CANT STOP HERE!

Um, potential is anything but worthless mate, do you know what potential is?

THIS IS BAT COUNTRY!

Yeah, sure do, something that only exist in theory. It isn't real until STOPS being potential, and becomes talent.

I need a lap top, or a way to get ppv on my 2nd tv, this is annoying

If he has potential then that's a good thing, surely? You guys are too judgmental tbh, but you have a right to make your own opinions.

Anyway, enough about MVP, last man standing match now, looking forward to it despite we know Taker will win.

Batista looks like he's gonna cry.

Ever heard the saying "cant buy a cup of coffee on potential?" Yeah they has a meaning.

I think it's got real good potential. They've got the New Breed kind of mixed with the Corperation running ECW at the moment - have that build up to the Originals regaining control of ECW. People love that stuff.

Vince always surprises me, just as you think people aren't going to boo him anymore he always finds a new way for people to hate him.

No i haven't, but i do know having potential is better than having no potential. As i said, lets wait and see before we decide to predict the future.

Whos predicting the future? Benoit carried MVP. That happend.

I disagree, i think MVP held his own in that match, infact in all the matches they had he did well enough to not be carried, but you're making it sound like he'll do shit in future.

It would be better to say 'MVP upped his game for Benoit' rather than Benoit carried him.

He hasn't done shit in the past. He's done nothing but suck every where in the world. Until he wrestled Benoit. History dictates the future, fact.

That's all your opinion though, i personally was entertained by him BEFORE THE BENOIT FEUD as i saw the potential there. If he does shit in future, then fair enough, no point arguing about it really, im slightly drunk right now so i dont really want to continue this.

Fair enough.

I'm sorry, but I think you're wrong. Like not just having your own opinion "wrong", but being blind to the facts wrong.

John Cena was a forced star. He got win after unneccesary win. MVP isn't winning matches he doesn't need to. He's not being given Championships too early. I didn't want to see MVP win the US Title, and he didn't. What they are letting MVP do is become a star on his own. They are presenting his case for being a future star, and he is doing that well. He's convincing us "sheep", after all.

I still fail to see how Benoit has been carrying MVP. Benoit is great, no doubt about it, but he's only been co-operating with MVP. He hasn't done anything too incredible. Fuck, he hasn't even done anything subtle. I don't want to say he is phoning it in, but his performances haven't been the best of his career or anything. MVP is doing the majority of the leg work in this feud, and he's doing it well.

Management seems impressed, I am impressed, most people here, except the bitter ones who don't want another name to be added to the good list, possibly because they complained about this "suddenly" good guy when he first showed up, are impressed. I guess it's OK not to be, but being in such a small minority must say something, mustn't it? Surely the world can't be wrong all the time?

MVP is not forced, and he's not being carried. To say he is just being blindly on Benoit's dick. It can work both ways. No one has said Benoit owes MVP for these matches, but saying MVP owes Benoit is just ridiculous. It takes two to tango, and really have great matches. I'd say they are both pulling their weight.

A better line of doubt in MVP's abilities to take would be "Is he just working well with Benoit because he is a fan of Benoit's?" To that, I personally don't know the answer. I've heard his DSW work was good, so that's a good sign. The guy did call his Crossface in DSW "Tribute To Benoit", though.

It seems really unprofessional, guys stepping up their game because they want to have potential classics with their opponents, but I think that is the only reason Batista vs. The Undertaker at WrestleMania was any good. Batista has gone on record saying his dream match was with The Undertaker, at WrestleMania, in Hell in a Cell. I think that is why Batista kicked it up a gear in his program with The Undertaker. It's also why I think their match tonight won't live up to Mania. Batista vs. Taker at Mania filled two of Dave's criteria; Batista vs. Taker at Backlash in Last Man Standing only fills one. LMS could be compared to HIAC, as there are no rules in either one, but I think there is less romance in this one for Dave.

The same could go for MVP when he stops working with Benoit. Sure, he could be good when he needs to be, but will he have the motivation to bring his A-game to matches with guys like Carlito, instead of guys he admires, like Chris Benoit?

That leg drop from 'Taker was pretty sweet.

Thank you alienoid.

Nice match here.

Chair shot to taker, Taker counters powerbomb by throwing Batista onto chair, then hits the Tombstone, Batista gets up on count of 9.

Yeah it's quite fun - and I can't stand Batista. Crowd are well into as well.

Holy shit. lol @micheal cole saying that to. :D

Oh fuck that shite. Match ends in a draw.

That was more like a movie stunt.

I thought they were going to have a vacant belt then.

The match should've gone on longer.

Undertaker shouldn't be in last man standing matches. He sits up in any other match, yet some how he is drained of tha magik ability when it is a last man standing match?

Oh for people who aren't watching; match was a draw. Batista speared Undertaker off the stage into a lightbox that had collapsing scaffolding and neither of them sat up.

:lol: @ HBK's dangly crosses.

Yeah, they would book him the same way becuase they need more superman pushes? No. There's more than one way to skin a cat, and that's what they are doing, just becuase he hasn't been maticuously handled in the exact same way doesn't mean fuck all. (And lets not forget that when Cena was in MVPs shoes (SD! mid card, Cena lost ALL the time.)

On top of that, this board LOVED Cena. Or have we all ready forgoton? Yeah, the TPWW sheep are well trained sheep, I can say that.

So you haven't seen Benoit givng MOUNDS of offence to MVP? Basically letting him work him over for the vast majority of ALL three matches? You haven't notcied that? Have you notcied Benoit being a good second faster than MVP? Constantly having to stop and let MVP catch up? Or are you just not paying attention? Benoit has gone out of his way to get MVPs spots in, and discarding his own, "Benoit performance looks bad" because he's making MVP look good. If MVP is to be put over it has to be at the expense of Benoit. And so far Benoit has done. MVP looks like gold.

Cena. Lashley. Batista.

At one time that could have described any of those men.

Management likes Taker. H. Formerly Hogan.

This board has likewise made similar descisions that have panned out to be less than savory. In a sea of terrible MVP comes along, average, and looks like a star. But he isn't. He just better than shit. LETS RAVE ABOUT HIM.

Maybe lies or a lack of knowledge you be the judge. If you think they have truely great matches you're standards are depressing. They've been better than average. Thats it. And ONE man can do that on his own. (Benoit)

Didn't say Benoit had been lackluster? What happend?

Heard? I've seen. I've seen him before DSW. Its mediocer to bad. Yeah. (Guess what, I actually follow indy wrestling.)

If his A-game is getting his lazy ass carried like he has though this fued then I'll say yeah, I'm sure he'll give it a shot.

HBK's entrance is so good when you're fucked. As is Orton's.

OMG, Edge just went Kliq!!!!!

As is Cena's, weird. I usually don't give a fuck for his entrance.

<font color=white>Isn't this the first time we've seen Edge actually wrestle in ages?

And I dunno if it's just me but Orton looks mad skinny.</font>

Think is the first time Edge has wrestled since money in the bank where he got injured, ironically.

<font color=white>Useless Jim Ross fact #2835

"This the first WWE championship fatal four way in Backlash history"</font>

<font color=white>He was injured going into MITB, hence the Jeff spot to get him out of the way.</font>

<font color=white>Digging Edge's tights.</font>

Little gay there CSL

Oh right, that explains it, makes it a bit stupid to have him in the MITB then rather than someone like Carlito.

Edge/orton double teaming HBK. Double boston crab.

<font color=white>There is nothing wrong with appreciating good spandex!

:shifty: </font>

HBK attempts to piveldrive Orton through table, Edge hits HBK with chair, Orton appreciates it then gets chair shot from edge, Cena STFU on edge, fuck it.

Edit: Phew. Edge gets ropes. Cena STFU on orton...argh, fuck off superCena.

He made the ropesssss.

Now Orton.

This is pretty great.

Holy shit.

What an RKO on HBK.

Cena kicks out of the Edgecution :(

Oh fuck fuck fuck off. Fucking shite.

Oh Christ that was an annoying ending.

Don't tell me Cena won. :(

Is Orton on his period?

The build up to the ending was fucking great. Just sucks Cena won.

:?:

HBK superkicked cena, cena fell on edge and got the 3.

Edge Speared Orton.
Cena FU'ed Edge.
Michaels Superkicked Cena.
Cena fell onto Orton and the ref counted 3.

:/

http://www.wwe.com/content/media/tou...images/4622410

So what, did the entrance setup collapse on them?

Kidding right?

Ok now WWE is basically acknowledging that Cena's title reign is a joke.

So they basically did the Orton/Michaels (?) ending from a few weeks ago again?

Sort of.

So how is this gonna be scored for tipsters lol

Common with the time left, Kennedy should beat Cena... :(

I did pretty shite in tipsters.

FUCK CENA!

I don't know what I'm more sick of... Cena winning, his entrance music or that ugly ass spinner belt.

:(

Someone please wake me from this nightmare.

BTW is the PPV actually over now?

Yes, it is.*listens to gnr live on youtube instead*

Damnit :(

It was a good PPV though, but WWE desperately need a heel champion, tonight would've been perfect.

Meltzer gave the show a great review... what did you ppv subscribers think?

'Twas a strong showing. No poor matches. 'Taker/Batista and the main event were fun. </font>

I though the ppv sucked. One thing happened that I wanted, and that was Taker retained his title. But he did it in the worst way possible. Everything else sucked. Murdoch and Cade lost, MVP lost, Cena won, Umaga isn't ECW champion and I honestly don't care one way or another about Melina and Micke (though it was a good match).

In all honestly, it was great PPV, from top to bottom. The main even could've been a smudge bit better, for obvious reasons.