:nono:

BREAKING NEWS: Stephanie McMahon's unborn baby has been suspended for violating the Wellness Policy. The baby will now be suspended from being born for 30 days.

I'm speaking of him in a situation where he's WWE champion 20 days before Wrestlemania's main event. I don't think the punishment would be as sudden and/or harsh for someone in Orton's position, no matter who it was. I think they would protect the interests of their PPV by using a little more leeway in the punishment. They'd be punished to protect their own ass in the wellness contreversy, but I don't think this way.

This sucks from the fan's standpoint. You have a guy the fans love and want to see pushed, WWE finally starts listening and giving him a push, then he goes and does something stupid like this and ruins his chances for good. It's no wonder only 4 or 5 guys consistently main event in WWE, every time someone the fans want to see on top gets the chance they go and fuck it up for everybody. I blame guys like RVD and Hardy for this bullshit. They fuck up, so it makes the company become reluctant. Fuck this guy. He's had chance after fuckin chance, push after push. I don't give a fuck what his deal is, you either wanna be in the business or you don't, it's that simple. If you don't want it, get the hell out. Go do motocross in your back yard or make more shitty music with your shitty band and stay the fuck away from wrestling. Stop insulting your fans and fuckin over the company who has given you all these chances. Here's something for Jeff to look at - Jake Roberts, Scott Hall, Ron Simmons, X-Pac - all in rehab right now. They cut their careers short because they wouldn't get a hold of their shit. In 10 years we'll see Jeff Hardy as another one of these guys, or maybe even a guy like Curt Hennig, Eddie Guerrero, or Hawk. If that's what he wants, good fuckin riddance. As much as I like Jeff's work, I never want to see him get a push again. He doesn't deserve it.

It sucks, but I can't really feel bad for him. I feel for the situation, but it's nobody's fault but his. I mean that's just plain fuckin stupid

It should also be noted that the writing's on the wall that he's clearly in significant hot water here, for obvious reasons. Manily timing.

If the WWE had any interest or plans on continuing his push in any way shape or form he would have been injured or sidelined in kayfabe to explain his absence, rather than simply removing him from the card and announcing his suspension on the site after having him lose his title cleanly.

It's clearly the end of the road for Jeff Hardy.

It's also interesting that one of the most over and untapped stars may now be on his way out. Not that TNA would even utilize him in any meaningful way, but he can head there with the same name.

I agree that its not good for him, however if he was main eventing, would he be protected like Vince, HHH, Cena?

I hate that you call him a moron for getting caught (and I do I agree to a point), but its annoying knowing that Cena, HHH and Vince are protected, and they don't even hide it. Personally I have no problem with wrestlers taking performance enhancing drugs, if THEY so choose they want to. But for WWE to turn the wellness pollicy into a PR stunt to protect them from a congressional hearing, and then blatently protect their top stars who are obviously using these drugs is just unfair on the unprotected wrestlers and us, the fans.

Jeff is stupid for getting caught, but the WWE is much worse for what they are doing. His 60 day suspension removes him from wrestlemania, and has just lost them my Wrestlemania money (short of something big happening in the next few weeks). The match I was most looking forward to has just lost its main competitor for no good reason. Sure, I like Jericho, but Jeff was there because the fans wanted him there, Jericho will be there because WWE wants him there in a hurry.

In all reality, we don't know if Triple H, for instance, has legal prescriptions for steroids and that's why he's never and likely never will fail.

I agree that protecting anyone is bad, but not protecting anyone is worse. Let's face it, if Cena, for instance, had a pain killer problem, WWE would need to do something. I think Kurt Angle is proof that while WWE does protect its higher performers, there are limits that even they won't cross.

It all comes down to that Jeff has a history of bad business - the former failed drug test, missing shows etc - and that's why they needed to do something. Anyone else would have been dealt with after WrestleMania, I have no doubt.

wow what a dumb fuck this guy is.

Jeff you retard

If WWE were smart, they'd stop pushing this guy. Fool me once, shame on you...Fool me ten times....

With Jbl on raw sharing the locker-room and shower facilites thats debatable :shifty:

No, it sucks from a Marks standpoint.

That's one contact high I'd rather not think about.

Another example of the WWE lifestyle causing Wrestlers to continue to take some form of drug.

Jeff wasn't caught using performance enhancers. Recreational drugs

I was gonna main event
but then I got high

I was gonna win Money in the Bank
but then I got high

la dada da

Now I'm jobbing to D.H Smith, and I know why
cause I got high, cause I got high, cause I got hiiiiigh

wwe.com just annoucned Punk vs Big daddy V for a MITB spot. So it looks like Punk will be taking Jeff's spot in MITB instead of fighting for the ECW title

Big Daddy V in MiTB would be awesome though

It'd be hilarious if BDV won.

WHY JEFF WHY :'(

Anyway, when was his first violation? They kept that one quiet.

It was just before SummerSlam. I think he was suspended for a month.

If it was before like November First, that's why they didn't say anything. Prior to that date, they were not releasing the names of suspended wrestlers.

This is pretty big. It's almost as bad as Austin getting put on the shelf prior to WM 13. Although I guess Hardy isn't as hot as Austin was back then. It's still a pretty shit situation. :(

lollllllllll jeff hardy come on man

This sucks big time, but Jeff brought it on himself.

No, substance abuse, read the headlines seriously

Shadow just had a stoke.

Doubt Shadow heard about it, didn't he hole himself up in his house with Smash Bros Brawl

it's a conspircy

Video of hardys push ending.

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This is just like the situation RVD found himself in, pathetic really.

:yes:

Just read this on Wrestlezone supposedly from Matt Hardy's official myspace:

"I know two people of different genders who are in a dilemma at this time. One of these individuals I am extremely close with-the other one I used to be. The thing that worries me is that they're both playing around in the deep water and can't swim. I can swim."


I assume he's referring to Jeff and Lita. damn.

whoa whoa whoa weapon x jordan x sharky x

whoa

Triple X?

xavier xochimilco xander

...excuse me. I have to go commit mass murder.

WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU THINKING YOU MONKEY FUCKING IDIOT!?

Oh and for those of you wondering where the fuck I was and why I hadn't heard about this until now...

I do have to go work you know. Can't spend all day posting on this site.

Nah, Jeff and Ashley.

Jeff is pretty fucking stupid, can we all agree? The man is a loose cannon, and cannot really be banked on. When he returns, I'd keep him as a mid-card guy to job to some other guys. Maybe have him as a lackey to older brother.

Matt has always been the better Hardy, and I think it is about time he got his due.

Fucking Hell! I've been calling for weeks that Hardy is going to win the MITB. I've sucked balls with the tipsters and I needed that free point!

Just change it to MVP and you'll be right.

winner of the MITB is that one guy who held that one title in the last 5 yrs

How so?

RVD was caught with weed by cops.

Hardy was found with something other than weed in his system and not by the police.

RVD was caught with more than just weed.

if he wins does he go to smack down? imagine feuds with edge, taker, mvp, rey (when he's back), punk...

Well clearly the list goes as follows...

1. Jordan X
2. Weapon X





10,0003,00000200,03000002,0000300002000. sharky x

Wouldn't that make him 'Morrison'd' :roll:

Lots of wrestlers have received belts for situations like this. Didn't Punk win the belt because Morrison violated the wellness policy? I'm sure he would have won the belt at some point, but his and Morrison's title victories are due to circumstances like these.

Jericho is a good go-to-guy. They need someone to hold the belt so they give it to Jericho. They'll probably make him drop it to Carlito in a couple of months.

Also, Jeff Hardy is fucking stupid. He's getting the push of his life (a push guys would only dream of) and he does something stupid like this. I don't know have any information on this, so maybe Jeff's violation is somewhat justifiable... knowing his past history with drugs, and what he puts his body through this isn't surprising in the least.

I really wish he'd tone it down a lot. He doesn't need to do all those high risk moves all the time. He can use unique moves that aren't going to kill him and people would still love him.

Well, he's only been back with the company for a year and a half and he's had more high risk gimmick matches than probablly anyone on the roster in that time.

Ladder Match with Nitro
4 Way Ladder Match at Armageddon
Steel Cage Match with Nitro
Money in the Bank Ladder Match
Tag Team Ladder Match at One Night Stand
Ladder Match with Carlito
Steel Cage Match with Umaga
Elimination Chamber Match

Not too mention some crazy spots in between like the 30 foot Swanton Bomb off the Scaffolding shit a month ago. Then take into account that he usually has the longest, most athletic matches on RAW each and every week. Plus house shows and touring... it really cannot be all that surprizing.

That just further proves that spot monkeys are a waste of space.

Tell that to all the money Hardy's made for the WWE.

Jeff Hardy probably doesn't think he actually did anything wrong. Look at RVD. I mean, not only is he talking about how he was suspended for Pot (as opposed to the fifteen other drugs in his car), he doesn't see anything wrong with what he did. This is called stoner logic, and it only makes sense to people who are currently mentally impaired.


Which probably also explains why he keeps destroying his body.

I'll tell it to him when he's sitting in his hospital bed because he burnt himself out and destroyed his body in one year more than he's ever destroyed his body in his entire career. If he wasn't a spot monkey he would have a longer shelf life.

So Randy Orton gets caught twice by the wellness policy, shits in someones bag, wrecks a Hotel room and gets himself sent home from a European tour. And it gets swept under the carpet. Hardy gets caught in the run up to Wrestlemania, and they still suspend him.

And don't start on about how Hardy no-shows. As far as am aware he hasn't no-showed since returning to the WWE therefore he has served his punishment (ie being fired) for that so it should be excluded from this arguement.

I fail to see why anyone wants to join WWE anymore. Vince makes a shitload of money off of their destroying themselves, and WWE's gratitude is to piss all over their guys at any opportunity (unless you are fucking the bosses daughter).

All that and Vince never takes any time off to spend and enjoy that money he has made, what a f**king waste.

Well, that was a nice, long series of lies there. If you're going to make dishonest comparisons, you need to be much smoother than that.

What idiotic reasoning.

And if you're not too busy with self-serving reasoning, this is Jeff's second violation.

Yeah, why would anyone want to join a company that would continue to re-hire and re-push idiots like Jeff Hardy who always blow it, pay them good money (Especially compared to the indies), and push guys to the moon if they didn't fuck up?

Vince didn't screw Jeff, Jeff screwed Jeff.
Irrelevant.

Yes Orton did all of that, however he also got sent on anger management courses and was also suspended for his violations. Or did you conveniently forget those details. Orton has served his punishments, Hardy should do the same.

KK already said enough for this. Him no showing shouldnt be excluded if he has started doing it again recently. His job is to show up, in a normal workplace if you keep on not showing up you're going to have action taken against you.

As much as I like Jeff Hardy and wanted to see him do well, I have to admit he fucked it up for himself. He should serve his punishment as should anyone else caught by this.

And Hardy hasn't, as he doesn't think he has a problem. Jeff has refused treatment at least once, where Orton has not. You see, Orton really has "served his time" and Jeff, so far, has not.

Also, I am and have always been a fan of the Hardys. Sometimes I think Jeff is overpushed, but it's lesss because I hate him and more because I know shit like this going to happen again. And again.

that's how I felt about RVD in 2006.... I knew he was going to fuck it up

although I never really liked rob van kick but Cena would've been eaten alive if he won at ONS.

I was under the impression that they changed how "suspensions" worked!?

I thought they were taken off the house show circuit, were docked any pay due to them during the period that they are suspended BUT were allowed to work on TV so as not to disrupt any on going storylines.

Did they change this? Did they ever do this in the first place? Am I going mad?

ProWrestling.com (so grain of salt...)

lmao

That's only for the first suspension. I believe the second is mandatory.

Either way, I really don't expect Jeff to be with the WWE much longer.

Two violations of the Wellness Policy within 6 Months of one another?

They changed the policy recently, but I can't remember what changes were made. However, as Xero pointed out, that was for first suspension. I think they changed it anyway, as they took flak over it.

60 days, damn Jeff is happy right about now. Just imagine....

WWE Agent: Jeff, you have been caught violating the Wellness Policy. Therefore you will be suspended for 60 days.

Jeff: So I have 60 days of not having to take any more drug test?

WWE Agent: Ummmmmm I suppose you can look at it like that.

Do we know what drugs he failed for? Not gonna read all these pages.

Alright, I'm not going to be a complete dick about this anymore. I feel bad for Jeff Hardy. He did finally get an opportunity to be the man and he stepped up. He was not the worse possible candidate to win the WWE Title (MVP). I was almost looking forward to the obvious Hardy/Cena - Hardy/Triple H fued. The fact that Jeff will pretty much sit in mid-card hell for the rest of his career now is completely depressing. I hope if nothing else, he learns from this as just a life lession and gets his shit together.

Also, should he quit and go to Japan/Mexico/TNA - or should he just get his mega-pops and paychecks in WWE?

I think if the WWE were smart they'd have him piss in a cup a week before his 60 day suspension is up.

What's with the sympathy for Jeff Hardy? He's an adult. Nobody forced him to take drugs, and nobody forced him to be a flake. He blew the shot all by himself. Why feel bad for a guy who doesn't care enough to avoid pissing his own push away?

A special song, by RVD and Jeff Hardy:

Up in Smoke, that's where my career goes
in my lungs and sometimes up my nose
when injuries begin to bother me
I take a toke and all my cares go up in smoke.

Up in Smoke, that's where my career goes
because Funaki takes a leak for RKO
when wellness time begins to bother me
I take a toke and spend 60 days up in smoke!

I'm curious to see what happens if Jeff Hardy fails again. The WWE would have to release him, and that would mean he'd be up for grabs. We'd probably see Jeff Hardy in TNA again, which would mean a lot more than it did then.

Jeff probably couldn't even walk without roids and painkillers. I just feel sorry he was in that position.

Of course, if Congress is still looking into wrestling at that point, Jeff might find himself unable to get arrested.

TNA Wrestling is also now testing for drugs as well, and turning over the findings to Congress, reportedly.

So, Jeff Hardy could be shit out of luck when comes to working there as well.

Then again TNA did hire Angle & Booker, regardless of how many times they've admitted to doing drugs and/or failing drug tests.

Ok KK I trust you will now show me proof that he has no-showed since being fired last time. And in terms of wellness policy violation, do you HONESTLY think that Batista, HHH, Vince, Crena don't use steroids?

Also in my "long string of lies", prey tell, where was I lying.

Seriously KK get off that fucking high horse would you. 100,000+ posts doesn't make you the god of wrestling info. I already stated that I agree jeff is to blame, I was merely stating that a few of their top stars are blatently being protected from the wellness policy.

How about you leave the computer for a while and go out in to the real world.

Just because he hasn't no-showed since he came back doesn't mean that shouldn't be taken into consideration. The fact that he failed this test shows that he's still just as irresponsible as before.

In fact, he should have been on zero tolerance in the first place. First fuck up and he's gone. He's fucked up twice and is still employed. He's had chance after chance after chance (at least one of those chances being the no-shows) and he keeps blowing it.

Didn't say that.

Or that.

If you want something to argue against, can you like argue against things I actually say? I'm sure Bats and Trips and Vince and Cena all do some sort of enhancement drugs. I'm also sure they have the marginal intelligence to get a legit script. Hell, even the word "legit" is in the loosest sense.

Good thing I've never made that claim, then. It seems something brought up as a strawman when dumb fucks don't have any sort of legitimate argument and are severely butthurt over being called on it.

Doesn't make your excuses any more ridiculous or your reasoning any more flawed.

Howabout you stop taking the internet so seriously that you need to get ridiculously worked up over it. 100K posts, and I'm still not the one getting butthurt and making personal attacks to justify my own poor reasoning.

Xero's on the mark. You also don't get to pick and choose crimes and punishments.

I will say that it's a shame that Triple H, John Cena and all the rest of the roiders get away with it, but Jeff Hardy should not be let go just because of that.

If Jeff Hardy's non-enhancement drug issues persist then there could be an argument made that he is going to end up the same fucked up way he was before in late 2002 and early 2003, before he was fired.

So, may as well either deal with the issue now or fire him before he becomes dependant/completely burnt out.

Oh, it's the best thing for Hardy. You know, assuming that he seeks help.

Another Jeff Hardy return idea: Hardy comes back with Ron Simmons and/or Jake Roberts at his side. Basically they play guys that found each other in rehab, bonded over their experiences, and how drugs stopped them from being as successful as they could have been in the WWE.

They could be a heel stable, or even a face one. It also gives Jeff someone who can talk better than him. Wait, can Jake Roberts talk?

The cliché, "two wrongs do not make a right" comes to mind.


Which, of course, he won't. Unless, of course, he's actually forced to. Which I'd like to see done, but won't happen.