A lot of people around here comment on things they haven't seen. I'm almost convinced most of the people shitting on this haven't seen the PPV.

I meant hurt in a metaphorical sense. Jericho is obviously physically hurt, but he still had the gall to go out there and win the World Heavyweight Title, albeit in a sneaky way. If that doesn't eat up Shawn Michaels and cause him to come back and want a title match, then I'll agree this is shitty booking.

CM Punk didn't look strong during his reign, so the WWE took the belt off him in a way that allows him to come back and say that he was cheated. I think they are definitely jumping the gun with this Steel Cage Match stuff, and that Punk should take a month or so off, and cut some promos hyping his return and how much he hates Orton, and how much he wants to prove he is the true World Heavyweight Champion.

I do like strong champions, but I don't think Jericho is exactly looking weak right now. He beat CM Punk cleanly in non-title competition, and at The Great American Bash he has a match-stoppage victory over Shawn Michaels. Granted, the same thing happened to him at Unforgiven, but he proved he's a tough motherfucker by going out there with his wounds, being a smart guy, and pulling out the title win despite it all.

Besides, with heel champions, the money is in the chase. People pay to see a good heel champion get beat, and with CM Punk, Batista and Shawn Michaels all in line with shots, I'd say there are great legs on this.

Yes, you really fucking do. People aren't grasping how sick the beat-down on CM Punk was, and assume he just took a few punches to the head and was out. He got killed with a kick that has killed legends. You also need to understand how the Scramble Match was also presented on the Jericho front, and you need to have seen HBK's promo to fully comprehend the implications of Jericho winning.

No, you have been told. You are just too stupid to take it in. Like in the Q&A forum when you asked about clean champions, got about five answers and said "no, that doesn't count."

It makes Punk look good for the following reasons:

1) He never got pinned, submitted, counted out, disqualified, knocked out or bled out to lose the World Heavyweight Title. He lost the title because he was screwed over by influences outside of professional wrestling competition.

2) Fans of CM Punk can maintain that Punk would have kept on surviving as champion if it wasn't for Orton. This intensifies their feud, and saves the comeback taunt of "well, Punk lost the match." He didn't lose the match.

3) If CM Punk had wrestled in a hard fought bout, and lost, he'd look like he has his entire title reign -- he'd look like an afterthought, and as someone that couldn't get it done. He'd be just another guy that won and lost the title. This way, Punk never lost the title.

This is a logical decision because:

1) It puts over Orton's eventual heel stable as a force to be feared. They can make or break the careers of individuals in the WWE. It positions them against a popular face character, and it creates a real interest in seeing them stopped, instead of them just being a bunch of young guys people don't like together.

2) Which feud, all preconceptions aside, should be fought over the World Heavyweight Championship: CM Punk vs. Randy Orton or Chris Jericho vs. Shawn Michaels. If you said Punk vs. Orton, you're living in a fantasy world. Jericho and Michaels are two of the most entertaining performers not only in the world today, but arguably in professional wrestling ever. This decision allowed them to do the switcheroo with the feuds and their priority on RAW.

3) SmackDown! has Triple H as the WWE Champion, and although the plan was to make SmackDown! look stronger, with a new champion like CM Punk at the top, RAW has been looking less and less like the flagship. With the hottest program in the WWE being fought over its World Championship, the brand suddenly regains a lot of its glory and prestige.

4) This creates a long build for CM Punk to eventually regain his World Heavyweight Championship, which will hopefully lead to an epic pay-off that could make the WWE some cash. His flash title win gained interest, but now they get to milk the slow burn.

5) Putting the World Heavyweight Championship on Chris Jericho, a performer who has successfully re-invented himself, and been doing some fantastic work for the company, can help boost morale because it shows the WWE rewards good performances. Giving The Brian Kendrick his due is a similar ideal. It's almost like how WCW used to give bonuses each week to the guys who had the best match.

Have the ratings even come out yet?

I agree that Punk should have been booked stronger as a champion, but the fact is he wasn't. If he had lost the World Title in a conventional sense, it would have helped no one. Like Afterlife, I'm not saying this is the best thing ever, but it's certainly not "shitty."

+CM Punk will get more over as a face for this. He can then re-chase the title with BUILD behind him.

+Chris Jericho is the World Heavyweight Champion.

I mean, who really gets hurt in this scenario? The biggest bitch in all of this is really Kane, who got pinned twice after a single Spinebuster from Batista.

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They do care about ratings. That's the whole point. If it was just for entertainment for a few people, put the belt on Rory McAllister or something. I'd get a kick out of it. Not many others would but it doesn't matter.

Ok you got me on that one. One more notch for your "wrestling fans are stupid" belt.

Nah it's ok to be wrong. Just stupid to refuse to believe a fact.

Yes, but the difference is, Edge had been through various high level feuds and had numerous title shots already. If I recall correctly, he even had a title shot at a PPV as well as having the MITB. He then even had the returning Matt Hardy storyline, even with the MITB being put on the line in a match.

Punk had none of that on his resume. Feuding (and losing regularly to) Chavo Guerrero & John Morrison is not even in the same league.

They blew their load on Punk way way too soon. I would have liked to see this 'undeserving' thing being based around the MITB contract rather than the title. The joke was, he was still losing matches but not looking particularly bad not long after Mania. They started having him stalking the champions at the PPV's - that worked.

Then he won the title, they wrote him exactly as the others described - a lucky, transition champion who would lose it at the first oppotunity. He should have beaten Batista, clean or not - that would have worked. Much like when Jericho first beat Rock with a steel chair to win the 'big one'.

This upcoming feud with Orton could be great, as long as Punk drops the smiley jumping around thing and gets vindictive.