Desmond is definitely my favorite, followed by Ben and Sayid.

that would probably be my top 3 as well

I get it now. I forget if timelooptheory explained this exact incident, and I think it might have.

Anyways.. Boone dying was how the island made up for Claire's baby, similar to how Ben was born.. since Boone died at the exact moment that Claire's baby was born.

Desmon, locke, jack would be my order. Jack is so fucked up its great.

I think one of my favorite scense of the whole series was at the end of season 1 when Sawyer told Jack that he had drinks with his father before he died. That was wild.

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And i can totally see a scene where Kate ends up dying and Jack and Sawyer are really emotional. Thats how love triangles end in stories like these.

FUCK Kate his hot. She's hot without makeup on the set. I've seen pics. God i want to play baseball with her and then fuck her in the dugout.

1. Locke
2. Sayid
3. Ben
4. Desmond
5. Jack

my top five, though Sayid and Ben are really even and interchangeable on the list

Tom is dead I thought?

I really hope Jin is not dead.

Desmond is by far the best character on TV right now....With Ben.

I do like Sayid, but those 2 are just so fucking cool.

I like the Boone/Aaron idea, but then whats up with everyone else dying.

Actually, I am making a change.

Mr. Eko was the best character until he left the show and they had to write him out.

He was the shit.

I think everyone else was dying either because they served their purpose to the island, or they just didn't have a purpose. IE - there was a reason those people survived, because all of their actions influenced the others' actions in some way, even if it was extremely small. In that particular moment though, the island needed someone to die to make way for the baby.

I think this is best explained with Micheal's situation. The island wouldn't let him die because he still had a purpose. He was still needed to do something which later helped people. Now, obviously the whole 'unable to die if you were alive before' bit isn't foolproof, as shown by Ben's absolute shock in seeing his daughter killed. (I am referencing timelooptheory, because I am 99.9% positive that theory will be the closest of any LOST theory once the show is done)

I don't watch this show, but can some one explain to me how/why they can't build a boat or why this hasn't been the vocal point of the entire show?

There are Others living on the island that have actively prevented their escape. They built two boats. One was burned (though it was by the kid) and one resulted in the Others capturing said kid and throwing grenades at them. They aren't sure where they are, so they are hesitant to chance the sea in the first place.

Just download and watch it. It is the most 'worth it' show on TV, IMO.

Done watching the first season again. Gonna watch the first couple episodes of season 2 before I go to bed in a bit.

Edit: Also Destor, there is way more going on than just them trying to survive. It isn't your typical castaways on an island bit. There is some weird shit going on at the island that can't be fully explained without spoiling some of the most amazing parts of this show.

I screencapped this from the scene where Micheal and Sawyer are on the broken piece of raft. Sawyer is getting ready to swim to the bigger piece of the raft that floats by, and the camera pans down to a shark swimming by.

Never noticed this, and I doubt many people did while watching it on TV.

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Yeah I noticed that when I was watching the DVD. No idea how it connects to the story though.

It's funny sitting here seeing you guys notice some of the random stuff that others caught when the show first aired (e.g. the tagged shark).

And by funny I mean "Ah, that takes me back to when I noticed/had it pointed out to me" rather than funny "LOL at you guy sonly spotting his stuff now".

I better find out about the Four Toed Statue pretty soon!!

Face it guys. Half the stuff you want answered will never be answered.

I WANT THE TRUTH!

Honestly, all I want to know is what the smoke monster is.

They can tell me what it is then spend the rest of the next few seasons videotaping a home guy Jerk off and I will be happy and still watch

Does anyone know of any websites where I can watch this after it airs in the US?

I usually torrent it but that can take an age. SurfTheChannel usually gets links up quickly but they're usually MegaVideo links and you can only watch 72 minutes per sitting (no good for the double episode opener).

This is mainly for a friend of mine who is joining me on the "can't wait til it airs 3 days later in the UK" bandwagon.

3 hours of lost tonight. 1st hour is a recap of all 4 seasons and then a 2 hour season premiere of season 5. I'm gunna be so drunk and happy. I might just make it 4 hours and make the first hour me rubbing one off to Kate.

New episodes on torrents will go fast, as there are usually several thousand people uploading within just a couple hours of them being uploaded.

Wait. Season 5 starts tonight in the US?

I thought it was on Thursday nights!?

Nope, Wednesdays, TONIGHT!

Tonight is the night, is the night of love, together forever is never enough.

Im going to cum for 2 hours straight tonight.

AWESOME!

Oh course I'll have to wait til tomoro to download it/find a stream.

I will be sure to post spoilers here tonight to ruin it for you all.


:)

Yeah, I think it always starts on Wednesdays for Season premieres. Gonna be watching this shit in HD on a 46" LCD at DS's house. CAN'T FUCKING WAIT. I have been having LOST withdrawals.

Requiem, I am going to rape your avatar

ABC streams every episode on their website in great quality. They usually put it up a few minutes after the broadcast.

ABC has regional restrictions on its content. I'm in the UK.

Im not going to spoil it at all, but I am 44 minutes into a 2 hour show and my fucking mind is blown.

Do whatever it takes to watch this.

LOL @ " Why is there a dead Pakastani on my couch! "

Its amazing this show can keep pushing the limits like this and be so kick ass.

get some links up for us moochers now please!!

Loved it.

Pretty good opener last night.

YESSSSSSSS

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If you click the image on the shark it's got an easter egg (obviously if you're wathing it on your computer from the DVD)

What is the easter egg, for those of us who don't have it on DVD?

Love the idea of the island "skipping". Much more interesting then if they were just stuck in the static past or future.

I loved how it started with the record skipping in that asian guy's room. Also thought it was cool how they focused on him for a couple minutes.

:y: same here. Plus it opens up so many possibilities to show events that happened on the island such as Adam and Eve, Rousseau's team, the original island inhabitants, etc.

So is Richard immortal or a spirit or what's going on here

Also

same way jack's dad undied when he came to the island probably.

That'd be pretty gay if they went that route. And if they're foreshadowing him coming back which they never did with any of the other deaths, it better be different.

I never thought I could kill a man with my dishwasher. Sayid proved me wrong.

I dunno for sure, but he seriously gave me this calming feeling. Like " Oh thank God Richard found Locke". I hope Richard is a good spirit type person and not someone who is actually evil. Cause i really like Richard alot.

One thing that i dont understand. Now i dont know if the writers messed up or if i missed something, but the scene where Farraday talks to Desmond in the past. Well if i remember correctly. The guy that Desmond shared the bunker with, was making him believe that you couldnt go outside and breath the air. Then Desmond followed him one day and realized it was a lie and the guy was just trying to fix his boat so he could sail off the island. And Desmond ended up killing him.

Ok so, why would Desmond answer Farraday in the yellow suit and oxygen mask thing? He was presumably alone because he asked if Farraday was his replacement. So it would have been after he killed his partner. Which means he would have known the air was fine?

Did i miss something here?

Damn, Nice catch. You are right.

Show of hands who thought it may have been Jin?

:y:

I just finished watching, I came here to post this, you beat me to it.

If you watch Man of Science, Man of Faith, Desmond still injects himself with the andidote, meaning he is still unsure.
I think he was thinking it was best to be safe than sorry when speaking to Faraday.
He made up his mind finally when Locke assured him they'd been there two months and no one was sick.

IMO, Richard is just like the other 'others'. They've been resetting back in time for a long time and thus do not age. There was a point when the others were talking and someone said "Remember when we used to celebrate birthdays" or something like that. They have been there so long probably that most of them should be pretty old by now, if not dead, yet they have not aged except internally. (IE - the woman with the 80 or so year old womb)

Basically, back when he visited Locke as a child, he was at the age he went onto the island. He has just stayed the same age, only aging when they leave the island (as they are able to do). Richard seems like a very important character, so it is not surprising that he is able to come and go as he pleases, just like Ben.

Richard is one of my favorite 'non-major' characters though. Pretty cool guy, and I hope he gets to be in the spotlight for a while this season.

I think Richard was meant to be a huge part of the show....as was Mr. Eko, before they both left for other shows. But Cane failed, so Richard is back and can finally play his role.

I have faith that this show is going to have a brilliant ending. They don't really have to rush anything, because they know exactly how many seasons they're doing now. Also, Jack is the only actor who knows the ending besides the upper echelon guys in the studio.

Im guessing Jack dies or some crazy shit if Matthew Fox is in the loop.

Anyone else think there were way too many people in the 70s Dharma Initiative......Like, what happened to the construction guys....they didnt seem to be in on it....where did they go and why havent they ever talked?

I bet Jack ends up on the Island alone at the end.

I bet Jack wakes up on the plane, and it was all a dream!

Book it, we will get fucked with that

I think the Plane gets burned after the Hatch, shortly before Eko dies me thought.

I assume they were killed by Hostiles at some point or died in the Purge along with everyone else.

I believe they've signed Nestor Carbonell who plays Richard to a deal so he wont disappear from the story anymore.

Mr. Eko wanted to leave the show as did the actress who played Rousseau (or so I read).

I love his character and was upset when he left to be on Cane. Thank goodness that got canceled.

Anyone else thinking Ms Hawking is Faradays mother?

I thought the same thing, but the way Ben got to her within minutes of being in LA, I dont think she is in Oxford.

And faradays mom is in Oxford.

I think Hawking will end up being some kind of Keeper of Time, and Ben is a servant.

Yeah that was the only downside to my theory about that aswell. But wasn't the scene when Desmond woke up with Penny on the boat not long after the O6 got back to the 'real world', whereas the scene with Ms Hawking and Ben was 3 years after that, so maybe Desmond has already found her by this point and since then she's moved.

Yeah but Richard appears to be something above the rest of the Others. Like how in the last episode he knew Locke was shot but Locke never told him. The writers on this show have never been subtle about foreshadowing so I have to assume that this scene means Richard is something special.

I wonder what's going to happen with Hurley. I mean it could be nothing, but why go to the trouble of bringing back Ana Lucia and warning him specifically not to get arrested only to have him turn himself in to the police?

from Lostpedia...

"In the Season 3 DVD commentary for "The Man from Tallahassee", Richard Alpert is described as someone who is not interested in leading the Others but is very influential in finding and selecting a leader. In the commentary for "The Man from Tallahassee", he is described as being similar to a Panchen Lama choosing the next Dalai Lama. He and Ben keep each other in "check" by having the power to pick/veto each other's replacement on the Island. Ben's role would be to pick the next Panchen, should the need arise. This keeps the two in a sort of balanced power relationship. They are allies, yet they have some measure of control over the other should one get out of hand."

also...
"Richard is the only living Other known to have belonged to the Hostiles who has been identified by name."

Im not sure if Richard is one of the original inhabitans of the island, but I imagine most of them are like him, except he just happens to be the one with the most power (among the original Hostiles)

Actually Penny mentions after Desmond wakes up from his dream that he has been off the Island for three years already. That presumably puts him in the same time frame as Ben visiting Hawking.

When he wakes up Penny mentions it has been 3 years...so it is current.

Richard tells Locke that Locke told him where he would be....so like Locke will jump, and tell Richard to be in that field at that time to remove the bullet...So locke sets it up, but it hasnt happened yet.

Kind of a Bill and Ted moment...

I think somehow Cops are going to be working for Widmore.

Right.

Which basically blows the Faradays mom thing out of the water.

it couldstill happen, but I am thinking Faradays mom will be on the side of the Losties, where as Hawking is seemingly with the Others/Ben, whom I am thinking more and more are some kind of Time Line Guardians, or perhaps people that have gone back in time and need to make sure nothing changes so that that time can get back to the future where they left.

Like if the world changes before they originally left, they cease to exist...

Your dates are off. They leave the island in 2004. Desmond has his dream three years later, so presumably that's when he goes to Oxford. Same with everybody trying to get back to the island. As far as Faraday talking to Desmond, I don't know. Probably after he killed the other guy since he was so paranoid about another person showing up.

Yeah, but you could just use the dates the show gives.

I KNEW IT!

I've been reading lostpedia like crazy, probably gonna have to rewatch episodes soon enough. I didn't remember Ms. Hawking at all. I just thought she was some random Jedi lady who liked her scented candles and pendulums. Yeah, gonna need to rewatch.

I could spend hours on lostpedia. It really adds to the enjoyment of the show because it gives you so many little things you wouldnt always catch.

Type "lostpedia.com" into your browser and press enter.

This seemed pretty straightforward to me. The compass pointed toward Locke, in case you didn't notice, and he told Locke to give it to him when he saw him next even though he wouldn't know who he was. This says to me that Locke get sent back in time, and gives the compass to Richard and tells him about what happens, which is how Richard finds him later.

Yup.

I thought Richard just took the compass out of his pocket and gave it to Locke. Maybe it's just Richard's compass and he knows it will convince his other self that Locke is telling the truth. He shouldn't have had any trouble locating Locke in physical location because when Locke tells him where he is with the bullet in his leg, he will tell him to look by the plane. Locke doesn't know the time, so the question is, has Richard been coming every night to check for a bleeding Locke?

Also, did anyone else not believe Sun when she said she forgave Kate? She will have to return to the island, but if Ben is right in front of her, she would have the opportunity to kill him then. Could that mean that she and Widmore now want to possess the island?

I am pretty convinced that Jack is Jacob.

About the compass...if you go watch Cabin Fever, Richard asks young Locke which of these items are already yours. There are also pictures of the smoke monsters on the wall. I originally thought they were young Locke predicting the future, but I think it makes more ense if Richard had already met older Locke before going to see young Locke.

Maybe he is trying to get him to the island sooner rather than later.

Maybe Locke's consciousness leaves his body, which is why he "dies" and Richard is trying to find him in time. It seems like his adults memories are present in his youth in a sense.

Also...What were the Kids names that were taken from the tail section?

I am joining the wagon of peeps who think Charlotte is the child of a Dharma person, and that Miles is the baby in the beginning of the season, that Professors kid. That is their stake in the big picture. Faraday is involved because of all the time traveling, now we just need to figure out Lapidus's motives, other than being the guy that was suppose to be on the plane.

I think that Sun will betray them for her revenge at some point....I think it will build to that over the season.

Perhaps. Can Jack be a short name for Jacob?

Not totally sold on Miles being the baby, but cant rule it out. Plus, he is the only one who hasnt really been given a purpose as to why he is there yet. I hope Frank figures into it somehow just because I want to see his character back in some way. After last season ended, I figured he would be the one who transports them back to the island because he'd be the only person they could trust flying them in some fashion back to the island.

Ah my bad, guess I missed that.

what the hell ever happend to Harper Stanhope?

Goodwins wife?

According to google, yes. It would explain why Christian and Claire communicate with Jacob.

Could it be that this is why Jack wasnt on Jacob's original list? Because he wouldnt put himself on the list?