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Rammsteinmad 02-13-2010 01:42 PM

No. He did have a tag team match though where his partner was injured backstage, so most of the match was a handicapped match. Not 3-way, but 3 people none-the-less.

Droford 02-13-2010 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sixx (Post 2936544)
Did the Undertaker ever have a 3-way match at Mania?

3-way match doesn't make it about the streak that much.

Undertaker has a 66% chance of losing!

The Pope 02-13-2010 02:47 PM

LOL.. true

Jimmy King 02-13-2010 03:45 PM

I hope michaels wins

What Would Kevin Do? 02-13-2010 04:35 PM

I'm thinking either HBK will somehow get into the chamber and superkick Taker, beat the shit out of him before the match so he can't compete, or attack him after Taker gets eliminated.

Part of me would love to see HBK beat the hell out of Taker before the match and take his spot. That way, Jericho could still win, and Edge could challenge him. I just think it'd be pretty "sweet" if HBK snapped, destroyed Taker, and said something like "If you won't face me so I can beat your streak, then I'll make sure you don't even make it to Mania."

I think whatever they do, they need to twist is so it's not "HBK wants another shot at beating the streak", but "HBK wants that, but he fucked with Undertaker so much that Taker really wants to take him out."

Afterlife 02-13-2010 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by What Would Kevin Do? (Post 2936712)
I'm thinking either HBK will somehow get into the chamber and superkick Taker, beat the shit out of him before the match so he can't compete, or attack him after Taker gets eliminated.

Part of me would love to see HBK beat the hell out of Taker before the match and take his spot. That way, Jericho could still win, and Edge could challenge him. I just think it'd be pretty "sweet" if HBK snapped, destroyed Taker, and said something like "If you won't face me so I can beat your streak, then I'll make sure you don't even make it to Mania."

I think whatever they do, they need to twist is so it's not "HBK wants another shot at beating the streak", but "HBK wants that, but he fucked with Undertaker so much that Taker really wants to take him out."


This is what I've expected since Taker said "no". HBK just has nothing to lose and antagonizes Taker to point where the Dead Man says "You know what? Fine. I'm kicking your ass."

Heyman 02-13-2010 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyBoner (Post 2936385)
Ive been thinking this and I think im thinking right. After watching Smackdown last night when Edge talked about people who can win the chamber, well, I thought about it and I think that HBK is gonna follow in Edge's foot steps and take out someone from the Smackdown chamber, like R-Truth and take their place.

Then HBK wins it and Taker has no chance but to face him at Mania again. Heck, to make it more fun and more scary that Taker's streak will be over, they can add Edge to it and it would be fresh because Edge and HBK never feud. So, the mania SD match could be come, HBK Vs Taker Vs Edge. Title and streak both on the line and Edge and Taker are faces while HBK can be the heel because we havent seen HBK heel it up in like forever.

What do u think? Im pretty sure HBK is gonna be in Smackdown's chamber at the elimination chamber (Thats such a dumb PPV name), but I think that its pretty obvious.

So what u think?

It's a good scenario you painted out, but it seems a little too predictable (although given that it's the WWE, that's probably what they'll end up doing ;)).

Since John Cena and Dave Batista will be locking penises at Wrestlemania, Cena's presence in the Elimination Chamber match is pretty much pointless. Hence - maybe at some point, Cena will be taken OUT of the match, and a new qualifying match will be made. HBK then beats out....say Big Show...for the last and final spot.

At the RAW Elimination Chamber match, everyone gets eliminated and it's now down to HHH and HBK. After a close fight, HHH gets the win with a flukey roll up. After the match, HHH goes to shake HBK's hand. HBK shakes HHH's hand, but then gives him Sweet Chin music....and beats the shit out of him afterwards.

At Wrestlemania - we then see HHH vs. HBK for the title.

Truth be told - I'm still not convinced that we'll be seeing HBK/Taker at Wrestlemania. The way it's looking right now, I think HHH/HBK could be the more likely scenario.

Edge and Undertaker could then have their rematch from 2 years ago......with Edge going over this time. :eek:

Heyman's Wrestlemania:

-Edge vs. Undertaker
-Triple H vs. Shawn Michaels
-John Cena vs. Dave Batista
-Bret Hart vs. Vince McMahon
-Randy Orton vs. Cody Rhodes vs. Ted Dibiase
-MITB: Sheamus vs. Chris Jericho vs. Kofi Kingston vs. Christian vs. Shelton Benjamin vs. Rey Mysterio

And many more!

BillyBonez 02-27-2010 10:27 PM

Idea for a new match finish
 


Ok I may get jumped for this but I got an idea 4 a match finish that I dont think has been done before. You have two guys or two girls wrestle each other when suddenly in the middle of the match one of them makes a weird face and looks uncomfortable. Then she jumps out of the ring and runs away.

The referee is like HUH :?: and awards the other person the match. Then we go backstage and show him or her running to the bathroom. Then she gets out of the bathroom and they say why he ran away and she says that its because she had to go, u can maybe say she had diherrea and couldnt hold it in and then that person can DEMAND a rematch because it wasnt fair that they lost because they needed to go to the bathroom.

Eventually its revealed that the person who ran off to the bathroom faked it and didnt really need to go. Like u can have a janitor say that he was in the bathroom and didnt see them go and the results of the second match are removed.

I think this would be good finish for a match where WWE cant decide on a winner so both persons look good. I mean, okay the guy who had to go wouldnt look as good as the other one, but we all know that when nature calls, u gotta answer!

What do u think?

BTW I am not 100% serious, like I want to see this but I know its not gonna happen. But still it would be something new instead of boring "Heel cheats" or something...


Xero 02-27-2010 10:30 PM

JBL Faked Poopy

Swiss Ultimate 02-27-2010 10:34 PM

Been done.
WWF: In your House 1992
Vader VS. Hogan

Mr. Nerfect 02-27-2010 10:38 PM

I wouldn't mind seeing a heel character like Zack Ryder do this sort of stuff. Have Rosa Mendes answer a phone call during a match that isn't going well during one of his matches, and he rushes off because it's a "family emergeancy."

BillyBonez 02-27-2010 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noid (Post 2959589)
I wouldn't mind seeing a heel character like Zack Ryder do this sort of stuff. Have Rosa Mendes answer a phone call during a match that isn't going well during one of his matches, and he rushes off because it's a "family emergeancy."

Josh : So Zach, what was the emergency

Zach : Bro you wont believe it. I got a call from LI from my bros that somebody broke into my wardrobe! Bro, I got stuff worth millions in there.

*Mike Knox walks by casually in the background dressed in pants with one leg*

Josh : So, did you ever find out who it was?

Zach : Bro they say it was a bear who broke in from the woods.

Josh : Well keep us posted!

Zach : Woo Woo Woo!

Lock Jaw 02-27-2010 11:10 PM

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Anybody Thrilla 02-27-2010 11:12 PM

I am laughing so fucking hard right now, and I can't really put my finger on why exactly. I think I love you, BillyBonez. Drew McIntyre's undefeated streak should have ended this way.

Wishbone 02-28-2010 12:06 AM

this would definatly be a good deal for a cowardly heel like jericho or ryder hell mabe even McIntyre could pull it off it would also be a good one for a heel santino

Anybody Thrilla 02-28-2010 12:40 AM

Something just seems so vulgar about having to take a shit, though. I definitely like the 'important phone call' finish, though. Especially for Ryder/Mendes. That would be perfect.

Anybody Thrilla 02-28-2010 12:41 AM

Haha, the more I think about someone leaving the match to rock a deuce, the more I laugh...it would seem pretty silly that an adult couldn't control his bowels to that extent.

CenaFan 02-28-2010 01:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 2959685)
Haha, the more I think about someone leaving the match to rock a deuce, the more I laugh...it would seem pretty silly that an adult couldn't control his bowels to that extent.


Hey... when you gotta go, you gotta go.:rofl:

Anybody Thrilla 02-28-2010 01:25 AM

A professional athlete should know to shit before a performance. If he's at the point where he can't control his bowel movements, he probably shouldn't be competing. How often have you ever seen this happen in any sporting event in the history of ever?

Impeccable 02-28-2010 03:52 AM

I know David Batty (leeds united football club - soccer in the UK) once shit himself on the pitch before having to leave and change his shorts.

Robert Snodgrass (also Leeds United) shit himself while playing against Hartlepool in the FA cup and was substituted.

So twice in living memory to answer your question AT.

BTW...Leeds play in all white.

Skippord 02-28-2010 04:42 AM

I think I just figured out the finish to the Michaels/Taker match

Jeritron 02-28-2010 05:11 AM

Then the following year, Shawn could beg Taker for yet another rematch because he couldn't help but shit his chaps

Jeritron 02-28-2010 05:12 AM

Shitting Yr. Assless Chaps: a novel by Michael Hickenbottom

Anybody Thrilla 02-28-2010 07:39 AM

Sid at least finished his match.

GD 02-28-2010 09:02 AM

Smackdown Main Event
WWE Intercontinental Championship Match
Champion Drew McIntyre versus Rey Mysterio

The match starts off pretty well and Drew is beating the holy hell out of Rey Rey. We are 5 minutes into the match and all of a sudden Smackdown GM Teddy Long makes his way down to the ring and shouts something to Drew, but he doesn't pay much attention and nails Mysterio with the Future Shock DDT and goes for the cover. But the ref doesn't count. Drew gets pissed off and tries to get physical with the ref, but the ref retaliates with sharp kicks to his calves and sets him up to the second rope for (Yes you guessed it right) the 619 followed by the Splash. The ref covers Drew, Long gets into the ring and makes the 3 count. Winner and new Champion...well by now you might have figured it out that the ref was infact Rey Mysterio himself and the masked wrestler was a decoy. Boom Baby!

The MAC 02-28-2010 01:52 PM

sid no-sells shit breaks

Lock Jaw 02-28-2010 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 2960030)
Sid at least finished his match.

Surprised this took that long.

Swiss Ultimate 02-28-2010 02:08 PM

Remember the last wrestler to bail on a PPV match due to a "family emergency"???? Anyone?

Xero 02-28-2010 02:09 PM

He was just hanging out at the gym.

BillyBonez 02-28-2010 02:56 PM

Can Christian ever be more than a mid carder?
 
Christian.

His former Tag Partner, Edge has found a lot of success as a single guy, winning the world title so many times itll make your head spin. Meanwhile, Christian had first became a jobber, then went to TNA and has now returned and won the "ECW" title and is back to the midcard for him.

Question is, can Christian be a main eventer? He has the tools. There isnt no doubt that he can wrestle, he is greate. Also he has awesome microphone skills and get crowd reactions that Im suprised he has.

BUT imo, for some reason, I cant seem him being credible against a main eventer. I cant see Christian being a real challenge to say Randy Orton or even Edge. I dunno if its because he looks like a dork or because the WWE jobbed him out too much, but I just cant see it.

I cant figure out why.

What do u guys think? Can Christian become a main game player like his former "Bro", Edge, or is he destined to be forever in the mid card?



Londoner 02-28-2010 03:01 PM

Yes he can, you're just deluding youself. That's why you can't figure it out. He's favourite to win MITB right now.

Lock Jaw 02-28-2010 03:07 PM

Yeah, he can. Whether they let him or not is a different story entirely.

theexample 02-28-2010 03:22 PM

Involving himself in the Jericho/Edge storyline could help him. He has to turn heel though I think.

The Pope 02-28-2010 03:38 PM

Yes

dronepool 02-28-2010 03:48 PM

Yes, he can.

Attitude99 02-28-2010 03:57 PM

Of Course He Can

TheAdamEvansFan 02-28-2010 04:20 PM

I'd like to see him n edge team up vs The Miz n Big Show.. I'd like to see them revive the tag team division.

Fignuts 02-28-2010 04:22 PM

Something about chritian's look has always bothered me. Think it's his legs. He's got little girl legs.

TheAdamEvansFan 02-28-2010 04:23 PM

Scratch that.. I think putting The Miz with the big show was a crap idea.. Sure he fits well into Jerichos spot due to jericho's push due to the TMZ exposure... But The Big Show is like Khali, he can't wrestle.. He needs to get in better shape like he was when he was The Giant. The Miz needs a better tag team partner that can be high flying and charismatic too. Like Shelton Benjamin!

Wishbone 02-28-2010 04:35 PM

Christian has every tool needed to make it to the top of the wrestling business the only thing holding him back it vince's gay love for big muclebound meatheads

wwe2222 02-28-2010 04:37 PM

Yes he can, no he is not going to. I always wished he had a little more muscle on him too. His legs are really too thin.

XL 02-28-2010 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 2960426)
Something about chritian's look has always bothered me. Think it's his legs. He's got little girl legs.

If that were a problem, Edge wouldn't be a 9 time World Champ!

GD 02-28-2010 05:30 PM

Yes. Christian has been golden since his return. He needs to be himself...Captain Charisma!

Emperor Smeat 02-28-2010 05:51 PM

Yes especially since he was used as the main guy to help the younger and less popular wrestlers develop without being one of those jobbers for the youth during his stay on ECW.

Might be a bit harder with him on RAW since it tends to focus on the same few people for the main events but if Vince/WWE was serious enough, they could push him for a future Christian-Edge inter-brand feud assuming both have the heavyweight titles.

Poit 02-28-2010 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr.Perfect (Post 2960383)
Yes


James Steele 02-28-2010 06:21 PM

Yes, and I would argue he is more than a midcarder now. He is a "gatekeeper" to the main event level.

jskinnyg 02-28-2010 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TL (Post 2960357)
Yes he can, you're just deluding youself. That's why you can't figure it out. He's favourite to win MITB right now.

Yes... They have been waiting for the right time to push him... MITB is set up for him to win I think as well... Meanwhile he was kicking it with the ECW belt and training all the youngsters for Vince & Co...

jskinnyg 02-28-2010 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James Steele (Post 2960663)
Yes, and I would argue he is more than a midcarder now. He is a "gatekeeper" to the main event level.

"Gateleeper" Nicely put Texas...

jskinnyg 02-28-2010 06:31 PM

and apparently I can't spell... GATEKEEPER...

James Steele 02-28-2010 06:40 PM

:nono:

DAMN iNATOR 02-28-2010 06:48 PM

Yeah with a 6 1/2 or so month reign with the ECW championship, although it wasn't considered a world title, I think this and the fact that he was the very first to qualify for the MitB match at WrestleMania is a sign that Vince will take him more seriously than before. Thus, I expect him to win MitB and cash in for his first title reign sometime this year (possibly 7/18, if he wins the ladder match at 'Mania and the stip is that the title shot automatically comes at the Money In The Bank PPV on that date, although I'd personally just as soon see it left as is where it would be able to be cashed in at any point up until WM XXVII.)

CSL 02-28-2010 07:09 PM

No because Vince hatez him

St. Jimmy 02-28-2010 07:20 PM

Of course. Everyone has the potential to be more than a mid carder. Not like he's black. :D

Lock Jaw 02-28-2010 07:24 PM

[Insert Cena being black joke here]

Xero 02-28-2010 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 2960759)
[Insert Cena being black joke here]

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g1.../blackcena.jpg

thedamndest 02-28-2010 07:27 PM

Just need to photoshop a Cena haircut and some jean shorts on him.

KIRA 02-28-2010 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xero (Post 2960761)

I Just look at that photo and keep thinking its a transitional phase cm punk will save him and all will b fine.

Can Christian main event?defiantly

Will he I just hope the writers and Vince have been paying attention to the reactions hes been getting.

Mr. Nerfect 02-28-2010 07:55 PM

Does anyone else remember how hot Christian was in 2005. The fans were rabid for him. I think it all started in England when he challenged Batista for the World Heavyweight Championship. They were even popping for Christian over Ric Flair. "Tomko...escort Mr. Flair out of my office." *epic crazy pop*

While Christian has got all the tools, it's just the question of whether or not he will be pushed. There is the very strong belief that Vince does not believe that Christian can be a star. His views may have relaxed over the years, but it was strong enough to drive Christian to TNA, where he captured two World Heavyweight Championships, and probably pissed Vince off a bit.

He's been paying his dues well on ECW -- constantly having good matches and always making guys look good. He got a long run with the ECW Title, and now he's been moved to RAW; not SmackDown!. I think that Christian is in the best position he has ever been in his WWE career. If he keeps wrestling great matches, and moving merchandise, then I think he will eventually get that "storied face title win."

Kofi Kingston is still my favourite to win Money in the Bank this year.

CSL 02-28-2010 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KIRA (Post 2960794)
Can Christian main event?defiantly

I'd have thought he'd be delighted tbh

KIRA 02-28-2010 08:06 PM

fixed it lol

Xero 02-28-2010 08:06 PM

lol

ron the dial 02-28-2010 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by owenbrown
lol


Mr. Nerfect 02-28-2010 10:11 PM

Lawl

McLegend 02-28-2010 10:45 PM

I don't think he can. I think the guy has Midcard written all over him in WWE. He hasn't broken into the main even yet so he probably isn't going to.

Also I can argee that he has that Gatekeeper spot that James Steele said.

#1-norm-fan 03-01-2010 12:38 AM

He definitely can. He reminds me a lot of Eddie Guerrero since he's come back. Not a typical main event look. Likable as hell. And he's a face that you can actually enjoy watch bending the rules a little.

#1-norm-fan 03-01-2010 12:42 AM

He also grasps a concept that great wrestling does not have to be paint-by-number. He does subtle things in his matches that just make him fun to watch. Like when he sets up a tempo to make it seem like there's a big move coming up and then he just slaps his opponent in the face. lol

Fox 03-01-2010 01:33 AM

The answer is yes. Look at this segment between Christian and Vince McMahon from 2005. He's go the crowd eating out of the palm of his hand and shows no fear or lack of charisma standing across from the WWE CEO.

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He's better as a heel though. Face main eventer Christian seems more far fetched.

Mr. Nerfect 03-01-2010 07:56 AM

Christian's face run is yet to lose steam, in my opinion. Christian's character has always been better as a heel, but right now I think he could move some t-shirts and get quite over if he rekindled his on-air relationship with Edge. Why fix what isn't broke?

If Christian turned heel, though, I hope the WWE roll with the punches. He's bound to keep getting cheered in some markets, and that will eventually catch on. Instead of shying away from it like they did in 2005 -- embrace it like they did with Eddie Guerrero. Fuck I miss Eddie. The man played a tremendous heel in 2005, even when everyone thought that there was no way the fans would turn on him.

Mr. Pierre 03-01-2010 08:54 AM

Even though I would love it if Christian were to win MITB this year, I still feel that this year, it should have been the unstoppable JeriShow versus a reunited Edge & Christian at Mania for the Tag Titles.

It just would have fit very nicely with the Edge/Jericho feud (both finding new partners, wrestling for the belts they once shared), and would have really elevated Christian at the same time (as well as elevating the Tag Titles). Plus, I can't remember the last time a Tag Title match actually had interest, build, and a story on a WrestleMania card.

I just find it so stupid how looking back at it, the team that was "put over" to end JeriShow's dominate reign was DX. Just seemed like a wasted opportunity to me, but whatever.

roach21 03-01-2010 10:37 AM

I feel like he's being punished for going to TNA. Vince wasn't very high on him initially anyways (He isn't 6'8" with a big dioccck Vince can ride)... It's the same deal for R- Truth and Gail Kim... They're all more talented than the people they job too.

Am I the only one who feels Edge benefited greatly from fucking Lita and ruining Matt Hardy's life? That was the beginning of the whole Rated R Superstar and the first time fans really saw Edge in a main event light right? Otherwise I feel like he'd be midcard too.

The Jayman 03-01-2010 10:49 AM

Christian has the ability to be a main eventer. He has great in ring ability, great on the mic, overly huge with the fans. He is one of the most solid workers on the roster and I have no doubt he will capture the WWE title this year after he wins MITB.

theexample 03-01-2010 12:23 PM

Maybe he could win MITB, then help Edge beat Jericho before turning on Edge to set up a title feud.

Damian Rey 03-01-2010 06:53 PM

The great thing about Christian at this point is that he's been in the business since 94 and has never been World or WWE Champion. There aren't many guys, if any, left in WWE right now that are active full time can say that. If pushed correctly, Christian could be next big Mania "life long dream" moment waiting to happen.

It's not as if they're going to acknowlegde his time in TNA as anything noteworthy. Christian could be the next big babyface for the company.

#1-norm-fan 03-01-2010 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theexample (Post 2961648)
Maybe he could win MITB, then help Edge beat Jericho before turning on Edge to set up a title feud.

Every year someone talks about the MITB winner cashing in that night.

That situation could be the one. Jericho forms an alliance with Ezekial Jackson to protect him from Edge leading up to Mania. Christian wins MITB. Ezekial tries to interfere to help Jericho, Christian comes out to make the save, takes out Jackson, let's Edge get the win and take the title. Then Christian gets in the ring, hugs Edge, they celebrate and then BAM! Money in the Bank briefcase to Edge's head, ref gets called back in and Christian takes the title.

I mean, I'm right with everyone with being sick of 2 minute title reigns because of how much they cheapen the whole idea of setting up matches for titles but that one just feels right.

DarKCentaur 03-01-2010 07:15 PM

What's so great about Christian in the ring? I've never gotten it...

- His moveset looks weak and unimpactful
- He can't really carry people to good matches (like Zeke, for example)
- His "great matches" have been against better opponents, or with Edge by his side

DarKCentaur 03-01-2010 07:19 PM

And the Unprettier/Killswitch must be the worst finisher ever, because it seems like he attempts it 5 times in every match before he actually hits it. If it's so easy to counter, why keep doing it?

/logic

Damian Rey 03-01-2010 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarKCentaur (Post 2962183)
And the Unprettier/Killswitch must be the worst finisher ever, because it seems like he attempts it 5 times in every match before he actually hits it. If it's so easy to counter, why keep doing it?

/logic

It's called building anticipation for the finish. It's not like every move in the WWE is the RKO or SCM and can come out of nowhere. By your logic, the Tombstone, Pedigree, Rock Bottom, and Stunner are all useless since they're "easy to counter".

High impact moves do not equal good in ring work. Batista hits a ton of "high impact" moves. Would you say his ring work is good?

In terms of carrying people, Christian is by and far one of the most consistent and solid workers in the company. His matche Zeke at the Rumble was praised here in the official thread as being a surprise match considering the lack of skill of Jackson.

The series of matches he had with Regal were one of the best collection of matches last year. He also had a good opener with Sheamus a few weeks ago, and made him look like a million bucks.

He also has the ability to connect with the crowd during his matches and draw them in to caring. That's not something everyone can do.

Lock Jaw 03-01-2010 07:51 PM

I remember this one match, it was Christian vs. Face Randy Orton.

Randy Orton, by this time had become the guy that just nobody cared about anymore because he was so terrible as a face.

However, Christian made me care about Orton in the course of the match. Which I thought impossible at the time.

Damian Rey 03-01-2010 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 2962243)
I remember this one match, it was Christian vs. Face Randy Orton.

Randy Orton, by this time had become the guy that just nobody cared about anymore because he was so terrible as a face.

However, Christian made me care about Orton in the course of the match. Which I thought impossible at the time.

This is precisely what I was talking about when I said he has the ability to draw people in and make them care about what's going on in his match. It's an intangible. Good man LJ.

KIRA 03-01-2010 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarKCentaur (Post 2962171)
What's so great about Christian in the ring? I've never gotten it...

- His moveset looks weak and unimpactful
- He can't really carry people to good matches (like Zeke, for example)
- His "great matches" have been against better opponents, or with Edge by his side

While Edge has great facial expressions and has the marketable "look"

Christian is the better storyteller and his in ring psychology is subtle yet awesome he does little barely noticeable things that make him enjoyable to watch but much like Edge he has an amazing gravitas that just can't be taught
you've missed alot it seems concerning Christian.

The One 03-01-2010 08:17 PM

Not only could Christian be a main eventer, but I sincerely believe that one day in the not too distant future, he very well could be the most over man on the entire roster. I can understand why people say he's a little too skinny, but his performance more than makes up for his lack of physicality. And to be honest, something in his in ring psychology reminds me of a early 90's Shawn Michaels. I think it's almost there for him...he just needs to tighten and tweek his style a little bit and he could be huge...and for what it's worth, I'm still waiting for that Christian/Cena feud to come to fruition.

TOVO Fact: Tovo doesn't wear pink clothes, and if you have a penis, you shouldn't either.

Mr. Nerfect 03-01-2010 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 2962145)
Every year someone talks about the MITB winner cashing in that night.

That situation could be the one. Jericho forms an alliance with Ezekial Jackson to protect him from Edge leading up to Mania. Christian wins MITB. Ezekial tries to interfere to help Jericho, Christian comes out to make the save, takes out Jackson, let's Edge get the win and take the title. Then Christian gets in the ring, hugs Edge, they celebrate and then BAM! Money in the Bank briefcase to Edge's head, ref gets called back in and Christian takes the title.

I mean, I'm right with everyone with being sick of 2 minute title reigns because of how much they cheapen the whole idea of setting up matches for titles but that one just feels right.

This is something I've thought about and would not mind seeing, but I don't think they HAVE to do it. They could milk the tension between the two for a while, or even have them as champions on opposing brands. It just depends if they want Christian to be a face or a heel, I guess.

Mr. Nerfect 03-01-2010 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by roach21 (Post 2961578)
I feel like he's being punished for going to TNA. Vince wasn't very high on him initially anyways (He isn't 6'8" with a big dioccck Vince can ride)... It's the same deal for R- Truth and Gail Kim... They're all more talented than the people they job too.

Am I the only one who feels Edge benefited greatly from fucking Lita and ruining Matt Hardy's life? That was the beginning of the whole Rated R Superstar and the first time fans really saw Edge in a main event light right? Otherwise I feel like he'd be midcard too.

Initially, I think you are correct. But time has gone on. Christian now finds himself on RAW. That is not a place you go when you are going to be punished. Christian also got to have a competitive match with the WWE Champion and got to be the first man to qualify for Money in the Bank. Right now, Christian is doing fine for himself.

R-Truth is also getting a MASSIVE push. More than what some people deserve he should get. It would not surprise me to see him with a World Title in the WWE at some point, and that is something I never thought I would say about K-Kwik.

McLegend 03-01-2010 08:20 PM

If Christian become the most over man on the roster then the WWE is in trouble.

He's good not great. Nothing wrong with that.

Juan 03-01-2010 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by roach21 (Post 2961578)
I feel like he's being punished for going to TNA. Vince wasn't very high on him initially anyways (He isn't 6'8" with a big dioccck Vince can ride)... It's the same deal for R- Truth and Gail Kim... They're all more talented than the people they job too.

You do realize that R-Truth is in the middle of being pushed on Smackdown, right?

Loose Cannon 03-01-2010 08:28 PM

I don't ever see Christian as a "top guy" in the WWE. Not saying he couldn't be. I just don't see them giving him that spot

Innovator 03-01-2010 08:31 PM

Nothing wrong with being an upper midcarder

The One 03-01-2010 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by McLegend (Post 2962286)
If Christian become the most over man on the roster then the WWE is in trouble.

He's good not great. Nothing wrong with that.

WWE would kill to get the kind of crowd reaction Christian was pulling in '05. And the beautiful thing is, his character from back then was 100% PG and family friendly. He was a cocky dork more or less. It worked then, I think it could work just as good today (if not better given the audience shift). He's already getting top level pops from months of being on ECW, I say he's one or two decent programs on RAW away from being a serious contender in that category. If I were the E, I'd start planning on building the company around Punk, Edge, Christian and Cena. Orton's been stale for a little while...Taker, HBK, and Bats can't carry the torch for too much longer. HHH is going to be like Flair in WCW; always there but his best drawing days are behind him. You take a guy like Christian, it's easy to pass him off as face or heel, in both instances he's kiddie safe...he's not injury prone, doesn't show signs of roiding, and I think he could be a great spokesperson for the company. Every single time WWE has thrown him table scraps, he's made an enjoyable feast. The fact that McMahon isn't instantly sold on him won't last forever - remember McMahon initially wasn't wild'n'crazy over Jericho and after Mania 18 everyone assumed he'd not only never hold a world title, but certainly never main event at Mania ever again......well......McMahon can be won over. I don't know where the limits of Christian's potential is, I just know I've never seen him struggle to exceed expectations. Sooner or later, he'll get his real shot.

TOVO Fact: Tovo has a weakness for Orange Slice chewy candies.

McLegend 03-01-2010 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by The One (Post 2962313)
WWE would kill to get the kind of crowd reaction Christian was pulling in '05. And the beautiful thing is, his character from back then was 100% PG and family friendly. He was a cocky dork more or less. It worked then, I think it could work just as good today (if not better given the audience shift). He's already getting top level pops from months of being on ECW, I say he's one or two decent programs on RAW away from being a serious contender in that category. If I were the E, I'd start planning on building the company around Punk, Edge, Christian and Cena. Orton's been stale for a little while...Taker, HBK, and Bats can't carry the torch for too much longer. HHH is going to be like Flair in WCW; always there but his best drawing days are behind him. You take a guy like Christian, it's easy to pass him off as face or heel, in both instances he's kiddie safe...he's not injury prone, doesn't show signs of roiding, and I think he could be a great spokesperson for the company. Every single time WWE has thrown him table scraps, he's made an enjoyable feast. The fact that McMahon isn't instantly sold on him won't last forever - remember McMahon initially wasn't wild'n'crazy over Jericho and after Mania 18 everyone assumed he'd not only never hold a world title, but certainly never main event at Mania ever again......well......McMahon can be won over. I don't know where the limits of Christian's potential is, I just know I've never seen him struggle to exceed expectations. Sooner or later, he'll get his real shot.

TOVO Fact: Tovo has a weakness for Orange Slice chewy candies.

Christian isn't as good as Jericho, and he doesn't have the "it" factor that Cena has.

I really think if he could be long term main eventer WWE wouldn't have low balled him all those years ago. That's a telling sign what the WWE thought and probably still thinks about him. I will make the proclamtion right now that he has all ready reached his celing. We have seen the best of Christian.

Mr. Nerfect 03-01-2010 08:48 PM

I love you, Tovo.

Christian's cocky dork character is one of my favourite characters of all-time. It was just so relentlessly entertaining. The way his confidence exceeding his abilities, but his abilities exceeded our expectations. And the reactions he got in 2005 were amazing. That year, to me, made me suspicious that the WWE hates money. Not only did they drop the ball with Christian; but they did so with Matt Hardy, too.

A question in regards to Christian: Did he bring back "That's how I roll" as a saying? I'd heard it in my youth and whatever, but when Christian started using it on WWE TV, it just had this dorky "Oh yeah, I said it," quality; but a few months after that I heard people casually using it in sentences. It was probably because of some rapper or something -- but did Christian lift that from pop-culture or did someone get inspired by Christian and start using it?

Damian Rey 03-01-2010 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by McLegend (Post 2962329)
Christian isn't as good as Jericho, and he doesn't have the "it" factor that Cena has.

I really think if he could be long term main eventer WWE wouldn't have low balled him all those years ago. That's a telling sign what the WWE thought and probably still thinks about him. I will make the proclamtion right now that he has all ready reached his celing. We have seen the best of Christian.

I agree but I don't think Christian is that far below Jericho. In terms of being booked, he's a title reign or two away from being on the same level, kayfabe wise.

I think if given his shot, Christian can main event. He has the mic skills to get over, his ring work is more than passable, and even his theme music is great.

It's just a matter of whether or not Vince and the creative team feel the same way about him as quite a few of us do.

Emperor Smeat 03-01-2010 11:25 PM

Christian needs just one of the heavyweight titles to be equal to Jericho in terms of major titles or Triple Crown.

Snowden 03-01-2010 11:38 PM

You know what would be kinda interesting? Have Christian win MITB and Edge win the title at 'Mania, and then have them reunite for a run w/ the unified tag straps.

Have Edge, say, start a short program post draft with Miz (giving him a bit of a main event rub in the process), and part in parcel, have Edge and Christian take the straps off ShowMiz. You would have that tension of tag partners who need to trust each other to win, but Edge being leery of Christian cashing in on him during one of their matches. Have Christian swear left and right that he won't screw his brother, keep them together, then bam, one night he lays out Edge, lets the opposing team (the Society?) pin him, and then he cashes. Instant heel heat.

Mr. Nerfect 03-02-2010 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Snowden (Post 2962939)
You know what would be kinda interesting? Have Christian win MITB and Edge win the title at 'Mania, and then have them reunite for a run w/ the unified tag straps.

Have Edge, say, start a short program post draft with Miz (giving him a bit of a main event rub in the process), and part in parcel, have Edge and Christian take the straps off ShowMiz. You would have that tension of tag partners who need to trust each other to win, but Edge being leery of Christian cashing in on him during one of their matches. Have Christian swear left and right that he won't screw his brother, keep them together, then bam, one night he lays out Edge, lets the opposing team (the Society?) pin him, and then he cashes. Instant heel heat.

I'd rather see Christian cash in whilst keeping the Unified WWE Tag Team Championship, and take Edge's share of the belts. Then he can walk around with five championship belts and look like a pimp.

Snowden 03-02-2010 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Noid (Post 2962989)
I'd rather see Christian cash in whilst keeping the Unified WWE Tag Team Championship, and take Edge's share of the belts. Then he can walk around with five championship belts and look like a pimp.

Or, have a match where all the titles were on the line? Would make for a nice SSlam main event.

Though I feel like TNA did something like that with Angle a few years back.

Mr. C 03-05-2010 03:48 PM

At WrestleMania, Christian wins the Money In The Bank Ladder Match.

Batista and John Cena have a rematch at Extreme Rules and another rematch at Over The Edge. Batista wins back the title. After the match, Christian’s former music comes on. Christian walks out, holding the briefcase, and is cashing in, but Cena comes out of nowhere and hits Christian with an FU. Batista keeps the title, and Christian keeps the briefcase.

Cena comes out to explain his actions on RAW and says he wants to invoke his rematch clause. Vince McMahon says he has to earn it. That night, Christian costs Cena a #1 Contender’s Match.

Christian and Cena have a match at Fatal Fourway and rematch at Money In The Bank, where Christian pulls it off. Christian announces he’s cashing in against Batista at SummerSlam and going to prove that he has what it takes to be the WWE Champion. Christian wins the match at SummerSlam to become the new WWE Champion.

Heyman 03-07-2010 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by BillyBonez (Post 2960350)
Christian.

His former Tag Partner, Edge has found a lot of success as a single guy, winning the world title so many times itll make your head spin. Meanwhile, Christian had first became a jobber, then went to TNA and has now returned and won the "ECW" title and is back to the midcard for him.

Question is, can Christian be a main eventer? He has the tools. There isnt no doubt that he can wrestle, he is greate. Also he has awesome microphone skills and get crowd reactions that Im suprised he has.

BUT imo, for some reason, I cant seem him being credible against a main eventer. I cant see Christian being a real challenge to say Randy Orton or even Edge. I dunno if its because he looks like a dork or because the WWE jobbed him out too much, but I just cant see it.

I cant figure out why.

What do u guys think? Can Christian become a main game player like his former "Bro", Edge, or is he destined to be forever in the mid card?

In my opinion, Christian could have been huge. Unfortunately, the WWE decided not to push Christian to that level. Can Christian still be a main-eventer in the WWE? I think so. However - I don't think he would be as big as he could have been...and that's a damn shame.

Rock Bottom 03-09-2010 08:16 AM

That always puzzled me too, I see Edge as the weaker of the two.

Dante69 03-10-2010 03:21 AM

No...8 people stand in his way of the Main Event.

John Cena
Triple HHH
Shawn Michaels
Randy Orton
Edge
The Undertaker
C.M. Punk and Batista

BillyBonez 04-03-2010 05:30 PM

Wrestlers that you found actually scary in real life?
 
LikE i know you can say, I aint afraid of no wrestler cause if they punch me I will take them to court and all of that, but I mean, have any wrestlers, based on how they look and act geniunly intimidated you so that you'd think, "I REALLY DONT WANNA MEET THIS GUY IN A FIGHT" ?

For me two names come to mind. First is Lesnar and thats before he dominated MMA and became the top fighter in the world. Back when Paul Heyman was managing him, he looked like the kind of guy who could kill you just by looking at you in a wrong way.

The second name is New Jack because he was just insane and add the fact of the stories of things he done, you just dont wanna meet him in a dark alley.

So, what WWE guys have ever intimidated you?


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