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RoXer 05-09-2010 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supreme Olajuwon (Post 3060773)
The only realignment I would be ok with is adding two more franchises and doing a North, South, East, West split for both leagues.

nah mines better

Jeritron 05-09-2010 03:23 PM

They cannot and will not have a professional sports team based out of Las Vegas. There are various reasons for it, which is why it hasn't happened yet and never will

RoXer 05-09-2010 03:25 PM

Yeah I understand. But they should have moved somewhere in the Wwest. Portland? New Mexico? VANCOUVER? IDAHO!?!?

Jeritron 05-09-2010 03:28 PM

Since I hate the Pirates, the ownership should sell them to someone who gives a flying fuck and they should move them to the AL West. How's that?

Jeritron 05-09-2010 03:29 PM

Nah, I like the franchise and wouldn't want to see it moved.

I'd really just rather see the Astros go to the AL.

Evil Vito 05-09-2010 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeritron (Post 3060774)
The only realignment I would be for is moving one team from the NL Central to the AL West.
All of the divisions in both leagues have 5 teams, except for the NL Central with 6, and the AL West with 4. What the fuck is that?
The Astros should be moved to the AL and placed in the Western Division

<font color=goldenrod>At least one Interleague series would be going on at any time all year then. Otherwise there would always be one NL and one AL team with nothing to do for days at a time.</font>

RoXer 05-09-2010 03:31 PM

I guess that works. :meh:

What a waste of a good stadium though. )-:

As if it was getting used during the season :rofl:

Jeritron 05-09-2010 03:31 PM

Hold on, what? It would even the leagues out

Supreme Olajuwon 05-09-2010 03:33 PM

So just off the top of my head:


American League:

East:
Yankees
Red Sox
Tigers
Blue Jays

South:
Rays
Rangers
Orioles
Tennessee/New Orleans/Charlotte franchise

North:
Indians
Twins
White Sox
Royals

West:
A's
Mariners
Angels
Las Vegas


National League:

East:
Mets
Phillies
Pirates
Reds

South:
Braves
Nationals
Marlins
Astros

West:
Dodgers
Padres
Giants
D Backs

North:
Cubs
Cardinals
Brewers
Rockies

RoXer 05-09-2010 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Vito 22 (Post 3060788)
<font color=goldenrod>At least one Interleague series would be going on at any time all year then. Otherwise there would always be one NL and one AL team with nothing to do for days at a time.</font>

My way would have 15 each with one interleague series.

Jeri's way would have 16 each with presumably 4 teams per division.

Jeritron 05-09-2010 03:34 PM

No, my way would have 5 teams per division and 15 teams in each league. What the fuck is going on right now?

Jeritron 05-09-2010 03:36 PM

Also, how would switching one team and making the leagues/divisions even effect the interleague schedule?
It would simplify it.

Evil Vito 05-09-2010 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeritron (Post 3060796)
No, my way would have 5 teams per division and 15 teams in each league. What the fuck is going on right now?

<font color=goldenrod>Exactly. And if you use 15 teams per league you have to stretch out interleague play all year.</font>

Jeritron 05-09-2010 03:38 PM

How about abolishing interleague play and making the allstar game and world series do the trick?

Evil Vito 05-09-2010 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeritron (Post 3060797)
Also, how would switching one team and making the leagues/divisions even effect the interleague schedule?
It would simplify it.

<font color=goldenrod>Let's take a look at a 3-game weekend series or something.

All 30 teams play during the weekends, always. It's the biggest money making time.

You'd have 7 NL series going on, and 7 AL series. But that still leaves one team per league with nobody in their league to play...so they'd have to play each other.

Therefore, at least one interleague game must go on all season. That's all I'm saying.</font>

Evil Vito 05-09-2010 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeritron (Post 3060800)
How about abolishing interleague play and making the allstar game and world series do the trick?

<font color=goldenrod>I would be all for that because I think interleague play sucks. Even the "marquee" series (Subway Series, Chicago, LA) are pretty boring at this point.</font>

RoXer 05-09-2010 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeritron (Post 3060796)
No, my way would have 5 teams per division and 15 teams in each league. What the fuck is going on right now?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supreme Olajuwon (Post 3060773)
The only realignment I would be ok with is adding two more franchises and doing a North, South, East, West split for both leagues.



My B. Mistook you for Supreme.

Supreme Olajuwon 05-09-2010 03:44 PM

My idea is better than everybody's. Fuck you

RoXer 05-09-2010 03:45 PM

Your idea sucks donkey dick just like the Oakland A's.

Jeritron 05-09-2010 03:52 PM

In Supreme's plan the Reds are curiously paired with the likes of the Mets and Pirates

Stickman 05-09-2010 06:07 PM

They play 160 regular season games, why can't they play everybody?

Supreme Olajuwon 05-09-2010 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeritron (Post 3060817)
In Supreme's plan the Reds are curiously paired with the likes of the Mets and Pirates

Don't worry the salary cap will solve any competition issues

Jeritron 05-09-2010 07:22 PM

Not when the Pirates continue to spend as little as possible, and the Mets keep being the Mets

parkmania 05-09-2010 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeritron (Post 3060784)
Since I hate the Pirates, the ownership should sell them to someone who gives a flying fuck and they should move them to the AL West. How's that?

Before the season started, Ron Burkle and Mario Lemieux (the two main people in Lemieux Group LP) made public an interest in buying the Pirates. The current owners made public that they have no interest in selling the team.

And why would they? They make $9 million each year for fielding a (at best) AAA team. I have not gone to a game in 3 years, and do not intend to do so for at least the near future. My son is 2 and I want him to be able to experience professional baseball, so I'm sure in a couple years I'll have to take him to a few games - but for now I don't give the Pirates any money.

I do love the team and don't want them to leave town but the only way they are going to get better is for MLB to step in and say that through blatant mismanagement the current ownership has shown no interest in growing the game so if they don't sell, their status as a major league franchise will be rescinded.

Evil Vito 05-09-2010 07:58 PM

<font color=goldenrod>Since I doubt there will be any consensus anytime soon about DH or no DH, I was wondering if there was a way to actually accommodate both.

Disclaimer: I don't think this is actually a good or practical idea...but...

how about you keep the DH AND the pitcher hitting? You then add a designated fielder spot. The DF cannot hit during the game, only play the field (unless they added some complex injury rule, but let's not get into that). But basically every lineup would have the DH, the pitcher, and then 7 out of the 8 fielders.

but anyway, some people argue that the DH spot creates jobs for sluggers who are otherwise not good enough to play the field...well, this idea would keep that and also allow guys who can't hit worth a shit but are amazing defenders to get regular playing time as well. It'd also eliminate complaints that one league has an advantage over the other due to the pitcher, since the pitcher would hit in both leagues.

Dunno. The reason I don't like it is because it'd just feel mad gimmicky</font>

Jeritron 05-09-2010 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by parkmania (Post 3060970)
Before the season started, Ron Burkle and Mario Lemieux (the two main people in Lemieux Group LP) made public an interest in buying the Pirates. The current owners made public that they have no interest in selling the team.

And why would they? They make $9 million each year for fielding a (at best) AAA team. I have not gone to a game in 3 years, and do not intend to do so for at least the near future. My son is 2 and I want him to be able to experience professional baseball, so I'm sure in a couple years I'll have to take him to a few games - but for now I don't give the Pirates any money.

I do love the team and don't want them to leave town but the only way they are going to get better is for MLB to step in and say that through blatant mismanagement the current ownership has shown no interest in growing the game so if they don't sell, their status as a major league franchise will be rescinded.

I should clarify. I don't hate the Pirates team or franchise. I actually love their history, park, uniforms, etc. I just hate the organization and their approach to running the team. I'm not even a Pirates fan and I shake my head everytime I see them let a great player get away, or the management make choices that are purposely made to cut costs and stunt growth.
That's what I meant.

Droford 05-09-2010 08:13 PM

Bsseball isn't going to add 2 teams any time in the near future, hell they were thinking about contracting 2 teams but I doubt it unless the A's/Rays dont get new stadiums (Those would be the two most likely contractable teams, history aside for the A's)

Realignment is a given, its going to happen. I hope its not that hokey rotating realignment that they want to do where teams change leagues every year or some crap, This isn't Soccer. They will definitely balance out the AL West and the NL Central so each division has 5 teams. I think what I would do is move Colorado to the AL West and slide Houston to the NL West. Colorado in the AL kinda makes sense if you think about it and having Houston in the NL West would be equal to the Rangers being in the AL West.

Jeritron 05-09-2010 08:16 PM

I don't think Skippord will approve of that

Jeritron 05-09-2010 08:20 PM

Rays and A's really need to get new ballparks if they stay put, which they should. Although I wouldn't mind seeing the Rays transformed into a New Orleans or Tenn franchise.

A's are the A's, so I'd like them to stay put.

Still, those parks are eyesores. The league has come a long way in the past 15 years with ballparks. All of the domes and toilet bowls full of astroturf are all but extinct. There's really no place for ugly stadiums doubling as football fields anymore.
All of the parks in the entire league are now either great looking new ballparks, or classic parks (Fenway, Wrigley).
Minnesota is finally up to speed, and I believe the Marlins are opening a new park next year?

Jeritron 05-09-2010 08:34 PM

http://www.ballparksofbaseball.com/FutureBallparks.htm

Nice

RoXer 05-09-2010 08:40 PM

I remember whn the new A's stadium had a motel in the bleachers where the rooms had a viw of the field.

I hope they put it near the water. There was talk they would put it near the naval base which could be beautiful.

Jeritron 05-09-2010 08:46 PM

a motel?

RoXer 05-09-2010 08:55 PM

Hotel I mean.

Which would be in downtown Oakland though so yeah, motel.

Jeritron 05-09-2010 09:03 PM

It would be great if they had a rundown Motel 6 in center field

Triple Naitch 05-09-2010 09:05 PM

That new Rays ballpark looks amazing.

Jeritron 05-09-2010 09:30 PM

It looks like a nice concept but it's the kind of thing I get the feeling could get dated, and begin to go to shit.
Think Olympic Stadium in Montreal

YOUR Hero 05-09-2010 09:36 PM

The canopy reminded me of MTL

parkmania 05-09-2010 10:18 PM

Does Skydome still rent out rooms that overlook the field? I think I remember some stories back in the day about some couples having sex in front of the windows, and then there was something about not selling enough of the rooms to stay open.

Rev. Hallowell 05-09-2010 11:30 PM

Screw the DH. If pitchers don't want to play baseball (or, for that matter, risk paypack for beanballs), then screw them.

And Pittsburgh will never be successful as long as that sorry excuse for ownership cares more about making money than winning championships. Mario Lemeux and Mark Cuban have both tried to buy the team, but Bob Nutting cares more about getting richer by selling players than actually winning.

They should keep the AL and NL though. I hate the NBA and NHL's East vs West. I like the AL-NL and AFC-NFC format used by MLB and the NFL.

Evil Vito 05-10-2010 01:21 PM

<font color=goldenrod>The fact that the ASG will use a DH even if its in a National League park just feels like a sign of things to come for me...which SUCKS. What I love about the NL is that the entire roster gets utilized. In the AL a bench guy can appear in a game like once a month.</font>


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