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Tazz Dan 06-13-2010 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by James Steele (Post 3109824)
here we go. Someone says something Juan doesn't agree with or like and Juan acts like a little bitch and continues his reign as the absolute shittiest mod of all time.

Tazz Dan For Mod

James Steele 06-13-2010 04:05 PM

http://cdn.bleacherreport.com/images...play_image.jpg

http://blogs.pitch.com/plog/Vince-Mc...Hulk-Hogan.jpg

James Steele 06-13-2010 04:09 PM

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...500_AA300_.jpg

http://cdn2.ioffer.com/img/item/144/780/735/7ncz.jpg

Let me guess, Hogan/McMahon was the main event of WrestleMania XIX too?

James Steele 06-13-2010 04:11 PM

Just to piss you all off:

http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/a..._H_776003a.jpg

Theo Dious 06-13-2010 04:15 PM

Much better moment:

http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/g.../horseanus.jpg

Juan 06-13-2010 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by James Steele (Post 3109824)
here we go. Someone says something Juan doesn't agree with or like and Juan acts like a little bitch and continues his reign as the absolute shittiest mod of all time.

Yeah, I just modded the shit out of this thread.

The Pope 06-13-2010 04:18 PM

Who's Triple H?

Hornicane 06-13-2010 04:19 PM

Juan is so controversial.

thedamndest 06-13-2010 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 3109743)
What about WrestleMania III?

Maybe could rival Hogan-Rock in terms of mainstream hype because wrestling was still pretty kayfabed then. But realistically the match was a bodyslam because Andre was in bad shape at that point. Probably the most important of all of them in terms of them finally getting the Wrestlemania concept right. That's pretty important for non-wrestling reasons.

The Pope 06-13-2010 04:23 PM

Controversy creates ca$h

Nark Order 06-13-2010 04:25 PM

JamesSteele, do you ever think that maybe you glorifying everything Triple H ever does actually does damage to the truly awesome Triple H moments in wrestling history?

Tazz Dan 06-13-2010 04:30 PM

It's his gimmick Narc, let the lad be.

Nark Order 06-13-2010 04:31 PM

Yeah, thought I'd give him a chance not to be a TPWW cartoon character. I don't think he's going to take it.

James Steele 06-13-2010 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Narcissus (Post 3109870)
Yeah, thought I'd give him a chance not to be a TPWW cartoon character. I don't think he's going to take it.

Says the man whose gimmick is ripping off Kapoutman.

Nark Order 06-13-2010 04:48 PM

Well, there's another joke you've never gotten, apparently.

Nark Order 06-13-2010 04:55 PM

I've never quite gotten why you simply can't discuss something without turning into King of the Spazzoids. It's a remarkable transformation process though, I'll give you credit for that.

James Steele 06-13-2010 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Narcissus (Post 3109910)
I've never quite gotten why you simply can't discuss something without turning into King of the Spazzoids. It's a remarkable transformation process though, I'll give you credit for that.

I have normal discussions all the time, but I will not stand for being attacked by self-important pricks.

Tazz Dan 06-13-2010 05:02 PM

Not to sound like a James Steele fan boy, but he only goes all HHH crazy as a joke most of the time, for his own amusement. He does actually have some good normal input a lot of the time.

James Steele 06-13-2010 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Tazz Dan (Post 3109925)
Not to sound like a James Steele fan boy, but he only goes all HHH crazy as a joke most of the time, for his own amusement. He does actually have some good normal input a lot of the time.

KAYFABE DAMN IT!

Seriously, is it not that obvious? OH WAIT, I bet it has something to do with self-important cocksuckers not getting the joke over their own overvalued opinion!

Nark Order 06-13-2010 05:08 PM

Nobody is attacking anybody. You make these wild claims all the time that can't really be supported, of course people are going to call you on them. Wrestlemania 18 was by far the worst main event of that era and it is widely known to be that. I myself, think it's a little underrated by most interpretations, but it is FAR from what you're making it out to be. The main event suffered horribly from lack of build and from the fact the the WM18 mid-card trounced and overshadowed it. Not to mention, Jericho was never really taken seriously as the champion in the first place because there was an extreme lack of build going to him winning the belt (Not to mention that he cheated in EVERY title defense. Not that I'm against that but it definitely took away from his "big match" legitimacy)

All the pieces are there guy, put them together and don't frown too much on the fact that you'll be the very last one to do it. Like I said, I think that the ME is actually a bit underrated because of the way that they managed to do alot with what they had to work with, but that can't change the fact that it was just thrown together and was sloppy as fuck as a whole.

Tazz Dan 06-13-2010 05:11 PM

lol Narc. You're making yourself sound worse than JS by taking him seriously. Stop now. :heart:

XCaliber 06-13-2010 05:15 PM

It would have better match if Hogan had been in his prime but even years past it i'd say this match is right up there in my top 5 maybe but off all time hell no.

Nark Order 06-13-2010 05:16 PM

What? Why does it matter if he's acting like an idiot on accident or purposely being an idiot? An idiot is an idiot.

This "playing into his trap" deal is ridiculous. He made a claim, let's hear him back it up. I'll never be able to take him seriously, that boat sailed a long time ago. Let's at least hear him try to explain these wild claims that he's going on about. When I amuse myself by asking him to explain "I'm making myself sound worse", but when he does it he's some sort of instigative genius? I hardly think so. Come off of it, Dan.

James Steele 06-13-2010 05:19 PM

There was a buildup of Jericho as champion. He did win in chickenshit heel ways, BUT HE WAS A CHICKENSHIT HEEL! I still remember going nuts when Jericho told off The Rock. The Rock was cutting a typical promo about how The Rock was going to beat Jericho and go on to WrestleMania yada yada. Jericho cut him off and cut a passionate promo about how he won't be walked over. He is the Undisputed Champion and etc. Yeah, he did the "evil ref" thing with Neil Patrick but it worked.

Then they had an excellent build-up to No Way Out where Jericho went over Stone Cold Steve Austin. Jericho was established as a heel champion, and then they logically fused with the Stephanie/HHH divorce storyline. Were there elements that were not great, yes, but there were far from the abomination so many of you make it out to be. Everybody knew Triple H was going to win, but that wasn't the point. If you bitched about every predictable WrestleMania main event...you'd bitch about almost every one of them. Then, we go to WrestleMania and they put on an awesome match. Yes, the crowd was worn out but Jericho and HHH put on a great match. I have never understood everybody shitting on the entire thing like it is equal to the Gimmick Battle Royal on the greatness scale. Nothing could have followed Rock/Hogan in terms of crowd involvement/etc. but it was worthy of a WrestleMania main event and there was no doubt going in that HHH/Y2J was the main event. Rock/Hogan shocked people with Hogan getting that reaction. The match was staring contests mixed in with typical punch exchanges and finisher paloozas. It certainly was a moment frozen in time, but you can't tell me a majority of wrestling fans around the world completely shit on Triple H coming back from career-threatening injuries to come back become Undisputed Champion.

Tazz Dan 06-13-2010 05:20 PM

Yeah, but he doesn't take it seriously. The only reason he plays the dick is because people expect him to. It's no different to Kane Knight being a sarcastic prick most of the time.

Juan 06-13-2010 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by James Steele (Post 3109954)
There was a buildup of Jericho as champion. He did win in chickenshit heel ways, BUT HE WAS A CHICKENSHIT HEEL! I still remember going nuts when Jericho told off The Rock. The Rock was cutting a typical promo about how The Rock was going to beat Jericho and go on to WrestleMania yada yada. Jericho cut him off and cut a passionate promo about how he won't be walked over. He is the Undisputed Champion and etc. Yeah, he did the "evil ref" thing with Neil Patrick but it worked.

Then they had an excellent build-up to No Way Out where Jericho went over Stone Cold Steve Austin. Jericho was established as a heel champion, and then they logically fused with the Stephanie/HHH divorce storyline. Were there elements that were not great, yes, but there were far from the abomination so many of you make it out to be. Everybody knew Triple H was going to win, but that wasn't the point. If you bitched about every predictable WrestleMania main event...you'd bitch about almost every one of them. Then, we go to WrestleMania and they put on an awesome match. Yes, the crowd was worn out but Jericho and HHH put on a great match. I have never understood everybody shitting on the entire thing like it is equal to the Gimmick Battle Royal on the greatness scale. Nothing could have followed Rock/Hogan in terms of crowd involvement/etc. but it was worthy of a WrestleMania main event and there was no doubt going in that HHH/Y2J was the main event. Rock/Hogan shocked people with Hogan getting that reaction. The match was staring contests mixed in with typical punch exchanges and finisher paloozas. It certainly was a moment frozen in time, but you can't tell me a majority of wrestling fans around the world completely shit on Triple H coming back from career-threatening injuries to come back become Undisputed Champion.

The match sucked. Get over it.

Juan 06-13-2010 05:30 PM

*waits for a clever joke about how I suck as a mod*

Nark Order 06-13-2010 05:31 PM

The original claim from you was the the main event of Wrestlemania 18 was better than the Rock/Hogan contest, which is why I took this argument with you in the first place. Now you're saying that nothing could've followed it.

Nark Order 06-13-2010 05:32 PM

And you overselling what actually happened during the build-up for that match doesn't change what actually happened and how the fans took the whole angle/buildup.

James Steele 06-13-2010 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Narcissus (Post 3109973)
The original claim from you was the the main event of Wrestlemania 18 was better than the Rock/Hogan contest, which is why I took this argument with you in the first place. Now you're saying that nothing could've followed it.

You left out the "...in terms of crowd involvement, etc.". The Triple H/Jericho match was way better. The Hogan/Rock match up was more about the crowd surprisingly cheering Hogan and them staring at each other. The Rock/Hogan match from an actual MATCH standpoint sucked.

James Steele 06-13-2010 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Juan (Post 3109971)
*waits for a clever joke about how I suck as a mod*

You are a horrible piece of shit mod.

Juan 06-13-2010 05:35 PM

You must be a delight at parties.

James Steele 06-13-2010 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Narcissus (Post 3109976)
And you overselling what actually happened during the build-up for that match doesn't change what actually happened and how the fans took the whole angle/buildup.

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Or could it be that you just refuse to give any credit to the buildup or match because "evil Triple H" won and Stephanie was involved?

James Steele 06-13-2010 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Juan (Post 3109981)
You must be a delight at parties.

You must be almost as miserable of a cunt as Kane Knight.

Juan 06-13-2010 05:36 PM

FACT: Everyone who doesn't enjoy every HHH match, thinks HHH is the devil.

Juan 06-13-2010 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by James Steele (Post 3109983)
You must be almost as miserable of a cunt as Kane Knight.

Funny, I feel the exact same way about you.

James Steele 06-13-2010 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Juan (Post 3109984)
FACT: James Steele can eat 500 spare ribs in 10 mins.


Nark Order 06-13-2010 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by James Steele (Post 3109982)
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Or could it be that you just refuse to give any credit to the buildup or match because "evil Triple H" won and Stephanie was involved?

Ok. And everyone else?

James Steele 06-13-2010 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Juan (Post 3109986)
Funny, I feel the exact same way about you.

http://www.babble.com/CS/photos/apr2...5/300x334.aspx

James Steele 06-13-2010 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Narcissus (Post 3109989)
Ok. And everyone else?

It is just like anything Triple H has done for the past 8 years. Everybody thinks they are hot shit by bitching about Triple H and shitting on his work. Majority of casual fans loved it and love Triple H today, but of course they are just marks whose opinion don't matter just like mine doesn't to self-important cunts like you.


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