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Savio 08-25-2010 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Droford (Post 3215067)
The Better question is..do you consider Mikey Whipwreck a former World Champion?
No one who won the orginal ECW championship won a real world title TNA belt doesn't count.

The Pope 08-25-2010 10:41 AM
Why doesn't the TNA title count? It doesn't make sense, he never one the TNA title. Only 5 guys have had the TNA title. (Angle, Joe, Sting, AJ Styles, RVD)

Savio 08-25-2010 11:34 AM
Because TNAs booking team is retarded.

Mr. Nerfect 08-25-2010 11:37 AM
I'd be curious to see if the WWE does. They still refer to Big Show as a "five-time World Champion." This might just be habit from when they were trying to get ECW over, but regardless, they seem to count Big Show's reign as ECW Champion as a World Title reign. Bobby Lashley won it from him, so technically that would make Lashley a World Champion? Vince McMahon doesn't win mid-card titles, either. It's kind of sad that I think one of the best things the ECW Title had going for it in the WWE was that Vince himself held it.

If the WWE brought Lashley back, I do actually think they'd refer to him as a two-time World Champ. I think the belt stopped being a World Title after it was vacated and Benoit was meant to win it. Johnny Nitro was the first "non-World Champion" in the ECW Title's WWE history.

BigDaddyCool 08-25-2010 11:56 AM
Noid is right, when Morrison won the title, they quit treating it like a world title. But being that is was immediately dropped in status after Lashley lost it, it means midcarders can beat Lashley. Also Lashley quit shortly after. So it is in essence his fault the title lost status from a kayfabe point of view.

Savio 08-25-2010 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by BigDaddyCool (Post 3215150)
Noid is right, when Morrison won the title, they quit treating it like a world title. But being that is was immediately dropped in status after Lashley lost it, it means midcarders can beat Lashley. Also Lashley quit shortly after. So it is in essence his fault the title lost status from a kayfabe point of view.
yeah I guess I do feel that when It was Lashley vs Cena @ some PPV I did consider Lashley as a former World Champion.

BizarroKing 08-25-2010 12:35 PM
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Kane Knight 08-25-2010 01:03 PM
Wow. I remember when everyone got buthurt over BDC and I saying it didn't count. The poll says times have changed.

Xero 08-25-2010 01:29 PM
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Savio 08-25-2010 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Kane Knight (Post 3215274)
Wow. I remember when everyone got buthurt over BDC and I saying it didn't count. The poll says times have changed.
Thread?

BigDaddyCool 08-25-2010 01:55 PM
Yeah, there was a thread, it was maybe 2 years back and I can't remember the title so it is hard to find.

My Final Heaven 08-25-2010 02:33 PM
From what I remember, another facet to Lashley leaving - The angle involving Vickie Guererro & Edge was supposed to be Krystal /Edge. Krystal didn't like the idea of doing something like that with a guy with Edgeward's... history, and naturally Bobby wasn't too hot with it either. All secondhand information, but the pieces fit together when you look over the other parts of the angle with Teddy Long having the heart attack @ his wedding & shit. It makes sense that they would have taken it in that direction.

Ermaximus 08-25-2010 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by My Final Heaven (Post 3215392)
From what I remember, another facet to Lashley leaving - The angle involving Vickie Guererro & Edge was supposed to be Krystal /Edge. Krystal didn't like the idea of doing something like that with a guy with Edgeward's... history, and naturally Bobby wasn't too hot with it either. All secondhand information, but the pieces fit together when you look over the other parts of the angle with Teddy Long having the heart attack @ his wedding & shit. It makes sense that they would have taken it in that direction.
http://www.wrestlingtradingcards.com...g_stars/71.jpg

The Pope 08-25-2010 03:50 PM
Is he the Strikeforce Heavyweight Champ yet?

NeanderCarl 08-25-2010 03:56 PM
Michael Hayes??


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