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Hanso Amore 10-29-2010 08:41 AM
and PS, to the OP

You may not see a reason to type correctly online. but we do, and if you want to be taken seriously, I suggest you do.

Fox 10-29-2010 09:24 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by NoJabbaNoBogRoll (Post 3301534)
The RKO through a table.

When will they learn that the RKO is a person on person impact move, and not person on surface?

Makes no sense.
I think the idea of the RKO/Diamond Cutter is that the person doing it slams the other person's face into the mat, driving them down neck-first. So, in kayfabe, the idea of an RKO onto a table makes sense.

In this video of Orton delivering the RKO to Cena onto a chair, you can see Cena's head slip out of his arm at the last second and Cena smashes face first into the chair.

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Brigstocke 10-29-2010 09:32 AM
I won't take Wade Barrett seriously until he finds a new finisher, It's a shame because his mic skills are impeccable and his in ring work is more than OK, just a shame that finisher looks so pathetic.

SuperSlim 10-29-2010 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by TheHart (Post 3301325)
I love me some Miz, but the Skull Crushing Finale is TERRIBLE!
It is executed tons better than when Jeff Jarrett does "The Stroke." Cause that... just looks beyond horrible.

NoJabbaNoBogRoll 10-29-2010 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Fox (Post 3301588)
I think the idea of the RKO/Diamond Cutter is that the person doing it slams the other person's face into the mat, driving them down neck-first. So, in kayfabe, the idea of an RKO onto a table makes sense.

In this video of Orton delivering the RKO to Cena onto a chair, you can see Cena's head slip out of his arm at the last second and Cena smashes face first into the chair.
I still see it as a head on shoulder impact, like the Stunner.

When he clearly dives beyond the object, allowing his victim to hit it first, I'll buy it. Usually, however, his own back crashes through the table long before his opponent.

The Pope 10-29-2010 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by bince2200 (Post 3301109)
ok so iam watching tna and just watched the robbie v e or who ever it is(jersey shore dude) and jay lethal and the jersey shore guy finsher is a fist pump neckbreaker but aint that a normal move in any wrestler move set. I guess wrestling aint what it used to be now when a finsher wasnt used as a normal move.u guys got any more dumb finishers u dont like!!!!!1:roll:
His finisher is an Diamond Cutter

The Pope 10-29-2010 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Savior (Post 3301158)
Maybe...I don't watch TNA to much. Maybe this was just a "signature" move he won the match with.
This
His finisher is an RKO/Diamond Cutter

MoFo 10-29-2010 10:57 AM
Edge's spear looks weak as fuck.

I've no probs with the actual move itself, but it should be left to bigger guys like Goldberg and Rhino who make it look good.

Swiss Ultimate 10-29-2010 10:59 AM
I'd like to see a powerslam finisher. :/

The Pope 10-29-2010 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by DeathtotheSwiss (Post 3301654)
I'd like to see a powerslam finisher. :/
I agree, like the snapping one Goldust and Samoa Joe do.

KIRA 10-29-2010 11:30 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by NoJabbaNoBogRoll (Post 3301629)
I still see it as a head on shoulder impact, like the Stunner.

When he clearly dives beyond the object, allowing his victim to hit it first, I'll buy it. Usually, however, his own back crashes through the table long before his opponent.
Nope the stunner the head is situated on the shoulder the impact of the fall focused on the jaw/upper throat.

RKO/Diamond cutter the head is situated where the elbow bends the other hand (more noticeable with the diamond cutter) is used to push the head downward.

Xero 10-29-2010 11:36 AM
Went back and watched the finish to Robbie's match. The finisher is fine. It has enough impact.

The Jayman 10-29-2010 11:43 AM
http://www.tpww.net/forums/showthread.php?t=108068

Razzamajazz 10-29-2010 12:20 PM
the masterlock is devastating

NoJabbaNoBogRoll 10-29-2010 12:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KIRA (Post 3301694)
Nope the stunner the head is situated on the shoulder the impact of the fall focused on the jaw/upper throat.

RKO/Diamond cutter the head is situated where the elbow bends the other hand (more noticeable with the diamond cutter) is used to push the head downward.
My point still stands. It doesn't matter which part of the head is involved.

The Pope 10-29-2010 01:37 PM
I was checking out Xero's posts and I agree that they do need to bring back some "regular" moves as finishers again.

thedamndest 10-29-2010 02:02 PM
The Skull Crushing Finale would be better if it was just The Stroke/Downward spiral. It's hard to believe someone like Sheamus couldn't power out of the full nelson set up.

Brigstocke 10-30-2010 02:48 AM
Sheamus could power outta a bear hug from a grizzly. Fella.

dronepool 10-30-2010 03:17 AM
The People's Elbow
The Worm
The Hogan Leg Drop
5 Knuckle Shuffle
"Knock Out" Punch
Clothesline From Hell

ect..

AJHayes 10-30-2010 11:26 AM
Cena's version of the STF bugs the shit out of me. As I've described before, it looks like an inverted, fuckup deathlock with a rear jaw vice.

DLVH84 10-30-2010 12:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AJHayes (Post 3302483)
Cena's version of the STF bugs the shit out of me. As I've described before, it looks like an inverted, fuckup deathlock with a rear jaw vice.
Yeah. He fucks the STF up. Damn you Cena!!!

DLVH84 10-30-2010 12:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DeathtotheSwiss (Post 3301654)
I'd like to see a powerslam finisher. :/
I miss the running version that Davey Boy Smith does.

crusnik 10-30-2010 11:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by stultiloquy (Post 3301510)
I like Barrett, but his Wasteland finisher is awful - it's almost as bad as the Attitude Adjustment.
it's even worse...they gotta come up with something else that fits the character. :y:

Sepholio 10-31-2010 12:52 AM
The mandible claw is not weak or dumb. If actually done on someone and full pressure is applied, it is one of the most incredibly painful things you can imagine.

However, I never did quite understand why no one simply 'bit' down on Foleys hand or something when he did it, seems like an easy way out of it to me.

The Naitch 10-31-2010 01:17 AM
Wade Barrett's finisher

The Naitch 10-31-2010 01:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Seph (Post 3302994)
The mandible claw is not weak or dumb. If actually done on someone and full pressure is applied, it is one of the most incredibly painful things you can imagine.

However, I never did quite understand why no one simply 'bit' down on Foleys hand or something when he did it, seems like an easy way out of it to me.
I also think it had to do with it being a sock that he most likely put on his penis that served him well during those lonely nights at sea

Aguakate 10-31-2010 01:23 AM
The fact that The Rock won some matches with The People's Elbow is dumb in itself.

Wait a minute...I just found out The Rock beat Hogan at WM18 with The People's Elbow...

...damn.

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AJ 10-31-2010 06:39 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Seph (Post 3302994)
The mandible claw is not weak or dumb. If actually done on someone and full pressure is applied, it is one of the most incredibly painful things you can imagine.

However, I never did quite understand why no one simply 'bit' down on Foleys hand or something when he did it, seems like an easy way out of it to me.
Wait I remember someone explain to me was that with the user controlling the opponent's jaw, that they wouldn't be able to bite since one bites with the lower jaw. If you try and hold down your lower jaw, it is hard to actually bite. At least that's how the move was "justified" to me. :o


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