Tyron Smith

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Listen to the fucking crowd. This is the kind of excitement you get with Jamaal Charles.

So how long until the season starts?

I was in Chicago the weekend of the Division final against the Packers...I have always been a fan of the NFL but never had a team, until I saw how crazy the city was going...so I'm now officially a bears fan. The guys business who I was visiting invited me round to his house that weekend to watch the game...never heard so many "fucks" in the such a short space of time.

Apparently Bob Sanders is going to be a......Buffalo Bill.

Merriman, Sanders. The Bills are going to have the Best 2007 Defense in 2011.

bahahaha

Broncos re-sign "The" Champ Bailey.

Whew. Would have been a major blow if they let him walk.

Apparently Bob Sanders was in Jax the other day. Great, just what we need if he signs with us. Another guy that can be an impact player, yet spends more time hurt on the bench than on the field.

ESPN now predicts Cam Newton to the Bills at #3 draft pick even with the twitter and interviews stuff of him viewing himself more of an icon or entertainer than a player and how nobody can ever produce a college season that he did.

It would be a stupid move by the Bills since they have a bad O-line and a pick that high is almost "must play" status for next year instead of bench/development.

Surely the Bills can't be that dumb. Surely.

Oh wait nvmnd they prob are

Im not huge on Newton, but whatever. If they take him he could work, he could bust. Same as anyone else. And at least it would be entertaining.

And People around here love Fitzpatrick, so there would be no rush to start Newton week one. I would imagine he would find his way in sooner than later. ANd Gailey is great at coaching up shitty QBs to play above their skils (Fiedler, Thigpen, Fitzpatrick) - would be nice to see him coach someone with a legit arm and real talent.

In the end, there isnt anyone at number 3 that I would be giddy for. Fairley wont drop that far and there isnt anyone else that jumps off the board at me.

So here I am, not really even caring.

I see Newton as a better version of Josh Freeman. I wouldnt have taken Freeman at 3, but in hindsight Tampa Nailed it, and he is worth it now. So I dont care what slot you draft a QB in if he works out.

Freeman also had more of a body of work to judge from I believe, where as Newton was only a starter for 1 season. Also drafting that style of QB is a crapshoot, especially in the first round.

You got the #3 pick, you should a sure thing that will improve you at that position immediatly, then again it's the Bills.

Look at all the sure things taken in the top 3 in the last 10 years that didnt pan out. There is no SURE thing. If they want a QB, why not take the risk. They are risking just as much with anyone else, it is just not as visible if it is a DE.

Nobody seems to get all over that Tyson Jackson Pick.

Im all about doing whatever it takes to find a Top Level QB. That is what wins in this league, not upgrading your DT.

Todays NFL is all about having an Elite QB. The League has changed. Hell, Draft NOTHING BUT Qbs and hope one is that guy.

Would you rarther gamble on a potential game changer like Rodgers, Manning, Brady etc and possibly lose, or upgrade your Outside Linebacker Position and miss the playoffs ear after year due to shitty QB play?

also I don't think Freeman was that big of a runner in college and had to make reads.

Shock Dawg to the Phins?

I remember this high flying offense from a few years ago with a decent offensive line. They had a superstar quarterback. Someone said a team with a good Defensive End could give them trouble.

They played in this high profile game against a team that didn't have a good Defensive End. Unfortunately, the team had 6! And those guys were rotated in and out of the game. The superstar quarterback ended up knowing what every part of the turf on that stadium felt like, after 8 sacks and even more knockdowns right after he released. (and a ridiculous amount of batted balls, including shovel passes getting knocked down.) He also threw 3 interceptions and lost two fumbles.

The game? Sugar Bowl between Georgia and Hawaii.

Sure, I am talking about a College Game, but similar concept. Matt Stafford could have avoided many injuries if Detroit had invested in an offensive line while getting him ready.

If Brady, Manning, or Rodgers don't have time to get the ball away, they're not gonna look as good.

That point makes no fucking sense. Did you watch this super bowl? Two Great QBs with COMPLETE SHIT for offensive lines.

And yes, lets compare a game between an Elite SEC program and a SUPER underdog Hawaii team to the NFL.

I just hate this argument, I hear it on the radio every day in Buffalo.

With that logic, if you put the best offenseive in in the NFL in front of Ryan Fitzpatrick he would be a great QB.

No.

Great QBs make their line look good, and great lines dont do a damn thing for QBs. Carolina has a great line. What did that do for anyone to take a snap for them?

MEanwhile, you can plug any scrub in front of Peyton manning and they will look like a stud.

The O-line won't magically make a bad QB into an elite or star but if the O-Line is strong enough, it would give that QB more time for passes and less hits on him.

David Carr is a good example of how a shitty O-line can kill a career since he owned the record for most sacks and hits in a rookie year and in his first few years. It ended up hurting his rhythm and development if once every couple of plays he hits the ground.

Of course if the QB doesn't care at all (ex. Russell) then it won't matter how good or bad the O-line is.

Or could it have been that Carr sucked, and held the ball too long? He didnt show a glimmer of ANYthing resembling skill in his next jobs. And he played at a WAC school and was just a bad pick.

Everyone wants to blame everyone but the QB.

Staffords injuries have less to do with the line, and more to do with his frailty. His backups dint have major protection issues.

SOmetimes QBs just dont have it. WHen Running Backs or Defensive players dont live up to the hype, they dont blame the guys around them.

Its just stupid NGL dogma that people roll with.

Some NFL news:

Colts and Peyton Manning (with agent) are not even close to any new deal before the lockout is set to take effect. Its rumored the main obstacle is money per year since Peyton wants in between the $24-27 million range while Colts offered the low $20-$22 million range.

Redskins expected to cut Clinton Portis with the Lions rumored to be active in trying to get him for next season.

Jets expected to cut Damien Woody, Kris Jenkins, Jason Taylor, and Vernon Gholston. Taylor is expected to retire while Jenkins and Woody are both a bit old (Woody also a bit too injured to keep). Jets consider Gholston a bust and won't bother to keep him.

Newest Cam Newton draft position has him as high as the Cowboys for positioning but not as a starter. Higher picks Buffalo and Cincinatti could draft him as a starter.

I was having slight hope that they may get a last second deal done. Outlook incredibly grim.

Owners are determined to lockout, even if the Union decertifies. Of course then it just goes from a lockout to "an employer ceasing operations." So really nothing could be done. Owners would have to work out 32 separate deals or take the NFLPA to court over the legitimacy of their decertification. Or if the owners still "lockout", the players have an antitrust lawsuit they can pull.

But of course, theres all the negative PR the league would get if they locked the players out even after decertification. It'd prove what the owner's true intentions were and their disregard for the fans. Meanwhile the players would look good due to them throwing away the NFLPA to save the season.

But if the owner's just invoked an impasse, they could run off the "last best deal" and use that until a new deal is reached. But the owners just want to be fucking greedy and add more games for them to make money and take more money from the guys who are the reason any of us watch.

Either way, it's gonna be a looooooong Spring

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=6172018

LOL!

More owners joined Giants owner Mara in the talks between the players union and the negotiator (mainly the big ones like Kraft, Jerry Jones, etc).

The biggest problem ended up being the Carolina Panthers owner never stopped talking and could have just hurt the process after being "hawkish" saying the talks will be done within the next 1-2 days (after last month trashing players and teams like Brees and P. Manning).

<font color=goldenrod>lol wow. That came out of nowhere.</font>

His supply of 22 year old blondes ran out, NEED MORE FAME.

He's completley out of money. That is the only explanation for this.

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We know he won't be welcome in NY. In fact, why would anyone want him now, he's four years removed from the game, and talks way too much about shit to the media.

<font color=goldenrod>As much of a dick as he is for doing what he did to his wife - I think the Giants fans' booing of Tiki is absurd at this point. Yes, it was totally warranted back when he made his comments but that was 4 years and a Super Bowl win ago. Doesn't seem like enough to piss away his entire legacy as a player.

Since the Giants are granting him free agency, I wouldn't be opposed to them eventually giving him a low-risk 1 year deal to at least give him a shot in camp. Coughlin generally likes to have 4 RBs he can rely on to mix and match anyway and Bradshaw, Jacobs, Barber, and Ware sounds pretty damn good to me.</font>

He retired mid season, got a grand farewell, and talked shit on the team and coaches on his way out. We got rid of Shockey for less.

New York has already said Barber isn't welcome I believe.

Washington will probably sign him, that's how they roll. :lol: