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Fignuts 02-22-2011 05:30 PM

New DLC dropped for DJ Hero. Hopefully there will be a couple more before they are done completely.

Kane Knight 02-22-2011 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Kalyx triaD (Post 3441784)
Activision pretty much no cred concerning why GH failed, being the guys who failed it. And we talked about how they have released their game's soundtracks as DLC for years now. It seemed like common sense, but they had other plans.

Really wish somebody would call them on their shit when they're interviewed.

Sadly, most press (of any stripe) is too concerned with getting the interview, so they will slurp that cock like it was going to cum gold.

It's a shame they didn't save title releases for major updates. I mean, even Harmonix wasn't immune to that, with Green Day getting their own disc, but all those extra releases with nothing really different....It's such a waste. Though WoR had a STORY MODE....>.>

I do like the fact that Activision is trying to say "We didn't do it."

It's the market. Really. And we can't be held responsible for not understanding the market. What do corporations know about that sort of thing?

Kane Knight 02-22-2011 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Smelly Meatball (Post 3441833)
A few people from the studio they fired said the real reason was Activision envisioning every game being a billion dollar revenue producer (or at least the main games) even during the year they pumped out too many games. Activision is also a company that favors the quick mega sales over the slower gradual sales but that was due to CoD being soo easy to reach multi-million status.

The same ended up happening to Tony Hawk but that was over a much longer period of time than GH/DJ Hero series.

The irony is they've vowed to not do the same thing to CoD they did to Guitar Hero.

The funny thing is, I'm not even sure they know what makes CoD sell so well. Like, I'm not even knocking the franchise, but it's easy to milk a series when it's on top. If the next game sold poorly, though, would they know what to do to correct that? Are they in touch enough to save that franchise?

Not to completely bash them for trashing the GH franchise because I understand that there was always some level of "fad" to the craze.

But oversaturation is a bad thing in any market, and fuck did they do that..

Funky Fly 02-23-2011 02:36 PM

Guitar Hero
Guitar Hero 2
Guitar Hero: Rocks the 80s
Guitar Hero 3
Guitar Hero: Aerosmith
Guitar Hero: World Tour
Guitar Hero: Metallica
Guitar Hero: Smash Hits
Guitar Hero 5
Guitar Hero: Van Halen
Band Hero
Guitar Hero: Warriors of Rock

That's the main series. Not even including the 3 portable titles or DJ Hero titles. GH came out in 2005. Completely fucking ridiculous.

Kane Knight 02-23-2011 02:41 PM

No, it's the damn digital market!

Funky Fly 02-23-2011 02:51 PM

Damn, let's roll out another Call of Duty next week and cover our losses.

D Mac 02-23-2011 03:00 PM

And I have all the Xbox 360 GH games. Except Band Hero.

Kalyx triaD 02-23-2011 03:36 PM

Let me take a crack at armchair publishing:

First, we don't count the Harmonix games, we start at GH3.

Guitar Hero 3

Drop this title as it went down. Had some acclaim, people dug it.

Guitar Hero: Aerosmith

I'll give Activision the benefit of the doubt here. They're excited, they have a new franchise, let's try one off-shoot.

Guitar Hero: World Tour

We gotta compete with Rock Band. Full band set, broader range of music, music creation mode. GH3 DLC, made for a different engine, may not work. I'll accept that. So far so good. MOST MUSIC TO BE FUTURE PROOFED AS EXPORTABLE DLC, WE KNOW WE'RE MAKING ANOTHER ONE.

Guitar Hero: Metallica

It's a big band, with a big price tag. Lot's of people wanted Met on a music game. No exclusive instruments, smart move. Accepts Death Magnetic DLC, good. Cross-compatible with music creations, also good. ADD OPTION TO EXPORT MUSIC TO GHWT. People would have to buy the game anyway. License issues, well at least allow WT DLC for this game. No, James Hetfield wouldn't be playable for The Touch.

Guitar Hero: Smash Hits

THIS WOULD NOT EXIST. All music (master tracks no doubt!) would have been DLC promoted as Smash Hits DLC, sold separately. Game was a waste of production, waste of printing, waste of shipping, etc.

Guitar Hero 5

The new engine. I can get that. Nice adjustments to interface. Great party play mode. New instruments, although past instruments are compatible. LEAVE MUSIC CREATION ALONE, JUST ADJUST INTERFACE - NO GALAXY BULLSHIT. Past music creations are compatible, in fact the platform is expanded to a whole new hub. If DLC strategy still sucks at this point, the music studio 'DLC' will be the trump card. Put a lot of effort behind this.

Guitar Hero: Van Halen

What? No. DLC pack. Save a lot of stress. The rendered band could have been DLC.

Band Hero

No, another DLC pack. And as far as reaction is concerned, it would have proved to be a popular pack. Rendered celebs would have also been DLC.

Guitar Hero: Warriors of Rock

Desperate cash-in. Would not exist in it's current form. Would have been Guitar Hero 6, touted as a return to rock orientation. Rhythm guitar play returns. Back-DLC compatible. Expanded music creation tool to include crowd reaction effects and camera angles. Basically remove any sign of WoR's design.

If it all still fails, blame consumers and Harmonix.

Funky Fly 02-23-2011 03:49 PM

Well, I have all the GHs up to WT and won't buy any of the others unless they're bargain bin. I have RB 1, 2 and Beatles and 34257623478345634576 songs downloaded.

Kane Knight 02-23-2011 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Funky Fly (Post 3442758)
Well, I have all the GHs up to WT and won't buy any of the others unless they're bargain bin. I have RB 1, 2 and Beatles and 34257623478345634576 songs downloaded.

I got Aerosmith and 5 from major deals. And Band Hero as a gift.

But most of the spin-offs should have been DLC.

I don't care for this whole "Pre-rendered bands as DLC" either. I'm betting it wouldn't be cost effective for them, and thus excpensive for us.

Also, with the suit about Cobain doing the YMCA and such....

What kind of faggot would pay to download a band that could only play their tunes?

...D Mac?

Kane Knight 02-23-2011 09:09 PM

Actually, I like the idea of releasing a game that's a family friendly platform. Lego Rock Band allowed access to the RB library, provided it was family friendly.

If Band Hero did that, I could justify it as something other than DLC packs. Of course, it didn't. Not exactly, anyway.

Kalyx triaD 02-23-2011 09:14 PM

Lego RB had a theme with it's own visuals and charm, Band Hero was GH 5 with a gay color set and Taylor Swift.

G 02-23-2011 09:53 PM

You leave Taylor Swift out of this!

Kalyx triaD 02-23-2011 10:00 PM

Why should I? They didn't.

D Mac 02-24-2011 01:06 AM

Yes KK you asshole I would if it was Metallica.

Kane Knight 02-24-2011 06:33 AM

You would for Hetfield. :naughty:

Kane Knight 02-25-2011 05:21 PM

Not to harp on this, but I found this article from Kotaku while researching some shit for my dad:

http://kotaku.com/#!5483798/guess-wh...mment=20004278

ONE YEAR AGO, Guitar Hero was one of the three pillars accounting for almost 70% of the revenues of Activision. The other two were (Unsurprisingly) CoD and WoW.

Matt Gingarac 02-26-2011 12:53 PM

im glad guitar hero is done with, what a waste of time

Kalyx triaD 02-26-2011 01:26 PM

It wasted your time?

Kane Knight 02-26-2011 05:28 PM

Once he found out it wouldn't get him laid or teach him to play guitar....

Funky Fly 02-28-2011 03:34 PM

Rock Band got me laid.

Kane Knight 02-28-2011 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Funky Fly (Post 3447381)
Rock Band got me laid.

Nobody believes that.

Your massive cock and rapier wit got you laid.


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