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dingdongyo 02-16-2011 01:34 PM

he can jump real high and kick real hard.

JimmyMess 02-16-2011 01:44 PM

Giant Void = http://schools-wikipedia.org/images/221/22162.jpg

Anybody Thrilla 02-16-2011 01:51 PM

THE NEXT BIG VOID

addy2hotty 02-16-2011 02:33 PM

Alienvoid.

ron the dial 02-16-2011 02:47 PM

void where prohibited

Kane Knight 02-16-2011 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 3434300)
I don't think anyone has ever expected Orton to get to rock or austin's level.

This forum is proof enough to the contrary.

Unless you're being intentionally ridiculous again. I can never tell.

Disco Apocalypse 02-17-2011 01:23 AM

I'm glad the words 'Giant Void' are finally getting the push they deserve :)

Lock Jaw 02-17-2011 01:27 AM

http://blog.masslive.com/entertainme...ark-Henry2.jpg

Lock Jaw 02-17-2011 01:28 AM

But to answer the question:

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheAdamEvansFan (Post 3434149)
Orton isn't a face.

Stupid fucking wrestling fans.

He's the VIPER.

He just so happens to be paired up against major heels at the moment.

Doesn't mean he won't punt people to the head, specially Cena if provoked.

That is why he is a face.

BigDaddyCool 02-17-2011 01:33 AM

Cause you touch yourself at night.

XL 02-17-2011 01:41 AM

WWE actually did Orton's face turn right. If a heel is getting pops all you have to do to maintain or build on that is change his focus from attacking faces to attacking heels. This is where they went wrong with him in 05 and something that I think Cena suffers from - they go face and start kissing up to fans/being a nice guy.

XL 02-17-2011 01:47 AM

Having said that the logic of his actions and face status don't always make sense.

I saw it posted around here somewhere recently but look at Punk v Orton. Punk costs Orton the belt as retribution for Orton doing the same to him a couple years back. Instead of Orton being all "Well I guess that's fair" and "We're even" he's like "I'm gonna kick your ass for costing me the title".

If anything Punk is should be the face in this situation. Logically.

But there's little room for logic in wrestling.

Like has been said, Orton and Cena have kicked chunks out of each other for the past few years, then Orton hugs the guy as he is fired. Or Orton himself, who spent most of his career attacking old men or booting people in the temple is suddenly forgiven for those actions when he turns face.

Disco Apocalypse 02-17-2011 01:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XL (Post 3435554)
WWE actually did Orton's face turn right. If a heel is getting pops all you have to do to maintain or build on that is change his focus from attacking faces to attacking heels. This is where they went wrong with him in 05 and something that I think Cena suffers from - they go face and start kissing up to fans/being a nice guy.

Yep, they did it much better this time. How they fucked up after SummerSlam is beyond me... oh wait, putting the title on HHH, that was it.

This time, it was the little things that made the difference for me. While he was a heel building into a face during the Legacy stable, he posed on the ropes without doing his arm thing. Then the night that his turn was completed, he did the arm thing and the crowd loved it. From that point on, he was a face again. They made it so definable, it was great.

James Steele 02-17-2011 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Disco Apocalypse (Post 3435574)
Yep, they did it much better this time. How they fucked up after SummerSlam is beyond me... oh wait, putting the title on HHH, that was it.

This time, it was the little things that made the difference for me. While he was a heel building into a face during the Legacy stable, he posed on the ropes without doing his arm thing. Then the night that his turn was completed, he did the arm thing and the crowd loved it. From that point on, he was a face again. They made it so definable, it was great.

They put the belt on Triple H because Orton proved he wasn't ready to carry the ball, so they put it back on the man who could carry the ball between the shoulder blades of his massive and entertaining back.

Shadrick 02-18-2011 03:58 AM

Man, Steele doesn't miss a beat does he?

Disco Apocalypse 02-18-2011 05:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James Steele (Post 3436528)
They put the belt on Triple H because Orton proved he wasn't ready to carry the ball, so they put it back on the man who could carry the ball between the shoulder blades of his massive and entertaining back.

Orton didn't even get to win a PPV as champ... that's rough.

It's not like Triple H was exactly short of title runs around that time. Didn't he win a vacated title that he had vacated? Was that the only competition he could find, himself?

James Steele 02-18-2011 09:38 PM

It isn't about giving everyone equal time, it is about putting the belt on a fucking DRAW. Triple H was the best way to put asses in seats since Orton flopped miserably.

Fignuts 02-18-2011 09:56 PM

Orton wasn't ready. Had no beef with the strap going back to Triple H.

MoFo 02-18-2011 09:57 PM

Punting yr downed opponent in the face while he isnt looking never struck me as something a 'good guy' would do.

Mjdiesel 02-20-2011 01:41 AM

I liken it to simply the fact that the pool of talent is slim, and Orton's been around for almost a decade now and probably want to see how they can market him.

Remember his first heel turn when Evolution threw him under the bus years ago? When he'd walk out with that generic gothic new age rock song, with a big smile on his face?

That didn't get him over as a face, especially since he's so good at being a heel.

Well this Viper gimmick is working and WWE is looking to stick with it, at least for now.

Again, not many big name faces in the 'E and it's saying something when John Morrison (whom I like) is involved in the Elimination Chamber.

Lara Emily 02-20-2011 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sixx (Post 3434079)


So that's why they call him the Viper holy shit

James Steele 02-20-2011 11:10 AM

I thought it was because they made fun of his mousepad.

http://rlv.zcache.com/cute_green_vip...76trak_400.jpg


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