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SammyG 07-12-2011 12:53 AM

Yeah, you know, I had said I was done watching, and I was. I tuned in to the ending of Raw a couple weeks ago just in time to see Punk cost Cena the match, then go off on that "shoot", and was instantly hooked. This is some Attitude era shit, it's great, that's the kind of shit I wanna watch, ya know? I am hoping for Punk to win as well, but it probably won't happen. If he really is leaving the company, no way Vince puts the title on him. Unless there is a deal already done, who knows? I think Cena is gonna get booed as loudly as he did in that ECW ppv when he faced RVD. Can't believe WWE hasn't turned him heel yet.

Aaronp43 07-12-2011 01:11 AM

If wwe lets Cena keep his title after all this buildup to punk taking the belt and leavening.They should be shot in the head this is the best wwe has been in forever.Punk has been the best for a long time.Just wished this could have happened at WM it would have been epic!!!

Lock Jaw 07-12-2011 01:11 AM

If Punk doesn't win, does Chicago riot? :shifty:

Stickman 07-12-2011 01:13 AM

That'll be awesome if Punk wins the belt.

Aaronp43 07-12-2011 01:13 AM

OH YEAH!!!

CM Punk DONT GO 07-12-2011 01:13 AM

Punk is gonna win i bet.

SammyG 07-12-2011 01:18 AM

Punk winning the belt= insanely high ratings for Raw the next day.

Rock Bottom 07-12-2011 01:54 AM

Wondering if this is going to be something stupid like an STF-Screwjob where Cena comes out the next night saying he doesn't want anything to do with it and to take his belt back.

Then probably goes on to win it somehow within the next few months.

Trying not to think about it too much, actually!

Aguakate 07-12-2011 02:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rock Bottom (Post 3577266)
Wondering if this is going to be something stupid like an STF-Screwjob where Cena comes out the next night saying he doesn't want anything to do with it and to take his belt back.

Then probably goes on to win it somehow within the next few months.

Trying not to think about it too much, actually!

...Oh, please, NO...

...Cena coming out with that stupid sad face he puts on, cuts an emotional promo, and then hands the belt over...

...only to win it at the next PPV.

captaincharismark 07-12-2011 02:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rock Bottom (Post 3577266)
Wondering if this is going to be something stupid like an STF-Screwjob where Cena comes out the next night saying he doesn't want anything to do with it and to take his belt back.

Then probably goes on to win it somehow within the next few months.

Trying not to think about it too much, actually!


Let's hope not. I like the idea of a reverse Motreal Screwjob, but Cena has to fully turn heel in order to make it work. And from the response CM Punk got on RAW, it makes sense. Cena turning then playing dumb is the worst thing I could imagine. I'd rather see Punk win, then lose immediately to a MITB winner than a half assed heel turn from Cena.

I would rather see Cena do the screwjob and admit he's an asskisser and align himself with Vince. That would actually set up WM vs. The Rock, as it's more sensible to have a heel and face for that type of match. Also, it sets Punk up for a massive face reception when and if he were to return...

corywards 07-12-2011 10:57 AM

Punk wins. Del Rio wins MITB, cashes in later that night and beats him.


#WINNING

Innovator 07-12-2011 11:08 AM

#DUMDUM

Not you or the scenario, the phrase "Winning".

Indifferent Clox 07-12-2011 11:45 AM

Punk wins and Daniel Bryan cashes in on punk, in ring of honor. Alberto cashes in on Christian who wins by dq and gets another title reign of like 5 mins

XL 07-12-2011 02:07 PM

So, the winner of the SmackDown Briefcase cashes in on the Raw champ and the winner of the Raw briefcase cashes in on the SmackDown Champion?

Sounds about right.

Mr. Pierre 07-12-2011 02:36 PM

I have a feeling we'll all be disappointed once Punk loses cleanly, he bows out to the audience and the show goes off the air lol

captaincharismark 07-12-2011 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XL (Post 3577574)
So, the winner of the SmackDown Briefcase cashes in on the Raw champ and the winner of the Raw briefcase cashes in on the SmackDown Champion?

Sounds about right.

Unfortunately, that would be WWE's idea today of shock tv. Having both belts change hands and two superstars switch brands means actual effort?

Either way, I believe the CM Punk controversy has all been scripted from the beginning and is a clever way for him to leave. I guess at least this is one storyline that had everyone wondering if it's real or not. It would be great if he resigned, but at least if he doesn't maybe Cena will turn heel and give us one benefit from Punk leaving...

Fox 07-12-2011 10:47 PM

Vince is a genius. Punk is still going to leave on Sunday and he's still going to lose on Sunday, but Vince is using the real life animosity Punk has toward the WWE to build his PPV and ultimately make more money.

Rock Bottom 07-13-2011 12:48 AM

Yeah, I think you're right. But how will it happen? Are we really just going to see another stupid AA or STF end a match? Another one?

Fox 07-13-2011 01:14 AM

How long has it been since the last Montreal screwjob reenactment? I could see the WWE going this route and having Vince call for the bell before Punk taps out, putting all the Chicago fans heat on himself instead of Cena. Then after Punk leaves, we get a few months worth of Cena versus McMahon storyline out of the thing, where Cena thinks what Vince did to Punk "was wrong", etc, and Vince wants to get the belt off of Cena.

Rock Bottom 07-13-2011 01:25 AM

It's not revisiting that angle that worries me as much as the latter part of that - the Cena involvement. It would make me vomit. I would have to just start changing the channel when Cena mentioned this at all, if he remains a face.

Even if he turned heel, who would he really feud with besides The Rock? He could mow down what little faces they have but they would all seem like mismatches anyway. Heel is so very unlikely at this point, they've passed over the opportunity to do it effectively before. So if it is a screwjob, we're in for it.

It would be like a nice delicious cake with shit for frosting.

Rock Bottom 07-13-2011 01:29 AM

Cena's promos are sometimes akin to Danny Tanner guiding his daughters through the woes of young life in Full House.

Disco Apocalypse 07-13-2011 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fox (Post 3577903)
Vince is a genius. Punk is still going to leave on Sunday and he's still going to lose on Sunday, but Vince is using the real life animosity Punk has toward the WWE to build his PPV and ultimately make more money.

Vince IS a genuis... there's amazing hype leading up to the pay-per-view, followed by huge dissapointment when CM Punk loses and leaves, which in turn creates a massive void in the hearts of the WWE universe...

How do you fill that void?

Icecream.

It's all about the icecream and always has been. Vince is a fucking genuis :yes:

captaincharismark 07-13-2011 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rock Bottom (Post 3577991)
It's not revisiting that angle that worries me as much as the latter part of that - the Cena involvement. It would make me vomit. I would have to just start changing the channel when Cena mentioned this at all, if he remains a face.

Even if he turned heel, who would he really feud with besides The Rock? He could mow down what little faces they have but they would all seem like mismatches anyway. Heel is so very unlikely at this point, they've passed over the opportunity to do it effectively before. So if it is a screwjob, we're in for it.

It would be like a nice delicious cake with shit for frosting.

That pretty much sums up Cena's career.

The Naitch 07-14-2011 12:20 AM

Yeah I dunno if anybody else mentioned this but I'm convinced Punk is staying

Reason why he left was because he wasn't happy beig used right, he wasn't happy not being the focal point of the show, but now he is. Why would he wrestle in Rim Of Honor? He's already in the big show.

I hope he stays and retires Triple H and becomes this generations' Steve Austin, ushering the official end of the PG Era after SummerSlam.

Austin vs. Vince = Punk vs. Triple H

Cena vs. Punk = Mankind or Corporate Rock vs. Stone Cold

:foc:

Lock Jaw 07-14-2011 12:55 AM

I like how we can't get through a thread without someone mentioning doing away with the PG Era.

The Naitch 07-14-2011 01:05 AM

The PG Era will rest....in....peace

*GONG*

Disco Apocalypse 07-14-2011 06:42 AM

The Attitude era started with an alcoholic. And it'll start again with... a guy who drinks pepsi :-\

Mr. Nerfect 07-14-2011 07:38 AM

I'm so very intrigued. I never thought Punk was leaving, simply because he was being pushed so hard and got to name drop places. If Punk wasn't leaving, then there's not such a big risk in it. What kind of splash would CM Punk joining forces once again with ROH make? Quite a large one, truthfully.

With Punk negotiating a contract with Vince, I found it interesting that even Phil Brooks the person seemingly wants to stay with the WWE. To clarify, I only read a transcript of what took place, but Punk basically wanted money, jets, etc. out of Vince. He wants to be a star. Cena then said Punk is being cheered now but will leave? Imagine if Punk won the WWE Title, but then DIDN'T leave the WWE. He used it as leverage to get a better contract, prove to Vince he can make money, and Cena could either be on the out, or still be around but Punk can "prove Cena is a phony," while ironically proving that he was a phony all along (great heel tactic). It'd be shades of their feud earlier in the year, but with higher stakes. This could even be compounded if Vince helped Punk win, thus screwing Cena out big time, with Vince being completely wrapped around Punk's devious finger.

Since Punk started this whole thing, I remember a promo he made to commence "The Summer of Punk" in ROH. He said something about being a snake in the grass. Once a snake, always a snake. Since a lot of Punk's stuff is borrowed from his ROH stint, is it beyond possibility that Punk and Vince are in cahoots, and they want Cena gone ("We need a new era!" - Vince), and Cena becomes the new renegade anti-hero?

Mr. Nerfect 07-14-2011 07:42 AM

I know people hate the mention of his name in angles, but imagine if Punk name-dropped Eddie Guerrero -- "A guy with all the talent in the world, but too immersed in drugs to ever be the top star." The heat would be massive, and people would actually be buzzing about where it would go.

Of course, there is also the chance that Punk becomes a big anti-hero, but I can't see a way that can come about of this angle right now. If Punk loses, he has to leave if he is going to look anything other than a liar. Unless Vince screws Punk, Cena is in on it, and Punk becomes the new top face of the WWE. But that is unlikely, right?

Innovator 07-14-2011 08:27 AM

Punk makes a cameo on the Art of Wrestling podcast this week.

Rammsteinmad 07-14-2011 09:20 AM

I see Punk leaving WWE and signing with OCW! The Future of Professional Wrestling!!!

RVDmark 07-14-2011 10:14 AM

I still do not believe for 1 second that WWE/Vince would do all this for Punk if he was leaving Sunday night.

Lock Jaw 07-14-2011 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rammsteinmad (Post 3578897)
I see Punk leaving WWE and signing with OCW! The Future of Professional Wrestling!!!

Hope this happens.

Aguakate 07-14-2011 03:39 PM

It'd be awesome if they went ahead and had Punk win the Championship this Sunday, and he took the Title "hostage"...they could do something with that.

Rammsteinmad 07-14-2011 04:27 PM

Yeah, like take it to OCW! :wave:

What Would Kevin Do? 07-14-2011 11:16 PM

This is now the official thread for all things of CM Punk goodness... If you post another thread about CM Punk outside of this one, I will kill you.

Tazz Dan 07-14-2011 11:59 PM

So when I sticky this it's a bad idea, but when you do it's not. MOD ABUSE :mad:

What Would Kevin Do? 07-15-2011 12:20 AM

Hey, I never said it was a bad idea. Don't abuse the mod abuse complaints!

Innovator 07-15-2011 12:40 AM

Go Punk Go, Go Punk Go, Hey Chicago waddya say Punk is gonna win today

Mr. Nerfect 07-15-2011 03:11 AM

After watching the promo on RAW this week, I get a stronger vibe that Punk has actually already re-signed, and that McMahon costs John Cena the WWE Title to usher in his new era -- so he can become a billionaire again.

Am I naive?


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