lol when have I ever said it was schtick? I mean everything I say about Indy Wrestling.

I know, Beth has beaten the whole being gay thing to death.

sorry but it's just a tad annoying knowing everytime ROH or anything Indy is brought up you just know he's gonna shit all over it

I think he does it to such an extent only to counter those who jizz all over it whenever ROH or anything Indy is brought up.

The Kings of Wrestling
The American Wolves
Hollywood's own Joey Ryan
A-Double Austin Aires

It's like rain on your wedding day.
It's a free ride when you've already paid.

That's unfortunate goddamn it. The only thing ironic about that song is it's title...

Anywho.

Joey Ryan would be great in WWE too. Him and Rhett Titus as a team would be amazing, and would bring some serious sleaze into the WWE.

Also, for the sake of arguing, Davey Richards and Eddie Edwards would never make it in the WWE. Edwards is a poor man's Daniel Bryan, and if Bryan can't get over, Edwards never will. Davey is also pretty small and generic looking himself. He'd have a better chance than Edwards, but he'd have to revamp half his moveset.

Out of curiosity, Gertner - and this is a legitimate question - where do you think guys come from before WWE signs them?

1. Rammsteinmad
2. Who cares?

bodybuilding shows, tryouts, amateur wrestlers, swimsuit competitions(women) and a few Indy guys who have size and personality(which is like 3% of them).

Honestly, he's pretty much right. If you look at the bigger indy feds, ROH, PWG, Chikara, etc, the ones that focus on good in ring competition, fewer of those guys end up in WWE than the guys from some random tiny indy place. And it's because it's easier to get into WWE based on looks than it is talent.

Eric Bischoff said back in the day that it'd be easier to train actors to wrestle, and he's not far off. A guy like Randy Orton would have never made it in ROH. A guy like Eddie Edwards will never make it in WWE. ROH cares about ability, WWE cares about marketability. Occasionally you get guys like Punk, who have "it" and make it from a quality indy fed to the big time. Those guys are few and far between. I mean, think about it, look at the guys you see on NXT? Where did half of them come from? They didn't come from indy feds that focus on "work rate."

It's not a shot at ROH either, they're just two different beasts. Very few guys in ROH right now could cut it in WWE. There are some, but not many.

You are one hell of a guy. :love:

Dark city fight club

For some advice from somebody who has no actual business giving it, let me just say that such a flashy finisher for a heel works against the ingrained dynamic of wrestling. Heels are supposed to attract "BOOOOOO", not "OOOOOOOOOH!". It's great that you can do something so athletic, but I feel a more dastardly, mat-based finisher would be better for you. Cheers bro.

How about the "Artistic Combat" for your finisher? A series of Liturgical dances followed by a school boy?

Lol L L Cool Gertner not letting that 'Artistic Combat' thing go. :lol:

Lol is was the most absurd thing I've ever read.

Didn't realise LL Cool G was Gertner til this thread :-\

Clox to WWE could be the next Colin Delaney

The Colony :shifty:

Seriously...
1. Brodie Lee
2. Delirious
3. Sonjay Dutt

Would be awesome. :cool:

Sonjay Dutt should definitely have a job. Wish he was in Jinder Mahal's place right now.

It won't ever happen. He and Khali's sister are just friends.