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Countdown starts on McMahon re-hiring Vince Russo ..NOW.

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Originally Posted by Rammsteinmad (Post 4000778)

Seems every week there's a "Vince furious at Raw" news post. Guy should just fire everyone and run the show himself, if he thinks it's that easy.

But then who would he blame?

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Originally Posted by Saving Grace (Post 4001784)

Didn't they try Heyman in the booking position for ECW when the show was re-launched on SyFy and he threw a mental breakdown type temper tantrum when his "Paul Heyman guy" champion at the time Big Show got told by Vince and the higher ups to drop the title to Bobby Lashley and Heyman about laid siege to the December to Dismember PPV and then got verbally dismissed and later released by Vinny Mac? If that is the case, situations like that is why Heyman won't get the book again. Guy is a pure genious from a creative standpoint but he makes shitty business decisions and has issue carrying himself when branding the overall product and not just one guy.

Wasn't it a re-write of December to Dismember that ended up being a disaster that Heyman got the blame for, despite his continued pleading against the show going forward like that lead to Heyman leaving the company?

I don't think Paul Heyman was the one fighting to build ECW around Bobby Lashley instead of CM Punk.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...-left-WWE.html

A very interesting read. It pretty much explains what went down with December to Dismember. I remember thinking that the Elimination Chamber should have gone down almost exactly like that. Big Show was leaving, so he should have put over someone in the first minutes of the match. Punk didn't need to win the Chamber after he had choked Show out. He would have been made then. Test and Hardcore Holly really didn't need to pick up any falls during the match, and could have easily been used to put over Punk, RVD or Lashley. I can understand that the WWE didn't want to have RVD win the belt, and that they might have felt it was too early to give Punk the brand (the ECW Title was considered a "World Title" at this point), but the way they went about Lashley was all wrong, and Heyman knew it.

I always felt that the best ending for December to Dismember would have been Lashley being a back-up choice for Heyman's new "chosen Superstar." Heyman's character at the time, remember, was that he was championing a new, glorious age for ECW -- with the old-school ECW guys being scars that kept ECW in the dark, bingo hall days. It would have made sense for Heyman to absolutely love this genetically gifted Superman in front of him, in Bobby Lashley.

It comes down to Lashley and RVD, and Heyman then somehow gets his enforcers into the Chamber and they beat-down RVD. Lashley then joins in on the fun and pins RVD after a Dominator. Heyman celebrates with Lashley and the enforcers as Bobby replaces Big Show as the top heel on the brand.

RVD continues to chase Lashley, and gets his title shot at WrestleMania. Someone else gets the "Battle of the Billionaires" spot, hopefully creating another major babyface star for the company. While it would have made sense to put the ECW Title on RVD from a storyline perspective at that point, since the long-term future was with Lashley, you could have him go over RVD cleanly at WrestleMania, ending RVD's little winning streak there. CM Punk would still win Money in the Bank, and Punk could spend the next few months taunting Lashley, giving him more time to shine in promos and as a character.