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VSG 12-31-2012 09:16 AM

Oh god having just Vince inducted followed by a massive roast would be spectacular.

James Steele 12-31-2012 10:38 AM

Especially when they bring in some surprise guests to roast him such as:

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Martha Hart

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Ultimate Warrior

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The Iron Shiek

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Greg Gagne

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Bruno Sammartino

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and Shane Douglas who will yell obscenities while working as a waiter during ceremony.

whiteyford 12-31-2012 10:51 AM

And he will waiter it marvellously because he's the F'N Franchise!

SNLfunnyguy 12-31-2012 11:59 AM

http://www.onlineworldofwrestling.co...n/nailz/05.jpg

"You've always ranted to roast me, big boy"

Rock Bottom 12-31-2012 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 4072011)
If this is true, then you have no business commenting on what a wrestling hall of fame should or shouldn't be.

Tell me who Mil Mascaras was and then tell me why I would have to hear that name to comment on the WWE Hall of Fame plz

James Steele 12-31-2012 05:28 PM

Mil Mascaras is arguably the greatest star in the history of Mexico behind only El Santo, and he also competed around the world in AJPW, he was the first masked wrestler to compete in Madison Square Garden, wrestled in Puerto Rico, WCW, etc. He isn't some random internet darling chosen from a "Best of Mexico" trade tape.

Tazz Dan 12-31-2012 05:53 PM

Plus he was in the Royal Rumble in 97 I believe?

Tazz Dan 12-31-2012 05:53 PM

Could have been 96

SNLfunnyguy 12-31-2012 05:54 PM

97, with a bunch of other no namers.

WinterDecay 12-31-2012 09:58 PM

If Harlem Heat goes in ... does that mean that Tony "Big T" Norris gets a ring as well?

Curd 12-31-2012 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tazz Dan (Post 4073420)
Plus he was in the Royal Rumble in 97 I believe?

Tazz Dan and SNL Funny Guy are correct. Mil eliminated himself by diving off the top rope to the floor, thereby contributing with Ahmed Johnson and Faarooq to a record of three self-eliminations in one Rumble match!

Rock Bottom 01-01-2013 12:45 AM

Ok, so has Mil Mascaras wrestled for the WWE, other than a self-elimination in a Rumble match?

Rock Bottom 01-01-2013 12:50 AM

And do you think Mil would be in the HOF if ADR weren't working for the company?

Rock Bottom 01-01-2013 12:51 AM

And do you think the Nasty Boys should stand shoulder to shoulder with Steve Austin in the hall of fame?

Rock Bottom 01-01-2013 12:52 AM

What about Ric Flair? Shawn Michaels?

Who the fuck is Mil Mascaras? Really. No one's even heard of this guy. No one even knew Mil was a name.

Rock Bottom 01-01-2013 12:54 AM

Which of the following wrestlers does not belong?

a. Andre the Giant
b. Hulk Hogan
C. MIL MASCARAS
d. None of the above

Curd 01-01-2013 01:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rock Bottom (Post 4073566)
Which of the following wrestlers does not belong?

a. Andre the Giant
b. Hulk Hogan
C. MIL MASCARAS
d. None of the above

You are correct about Mil Mascaras never wrestling for WWE outside that one Rumble stint. I personally believe he belongs in the AAA and/or CMLL Hall of Fame and not in the WWE HOF, but with the induction of Abdullah the Butcher, it appears WWE will continue to induct those ill-known within the WWE fan base but having a cult following outside.

I expect WWE would induct Hiro Matsuda if its Asian American audience was as large as its Spanish American audience. Heck, someday they might induct Steve Corino, Generico, or Kevin Steen if they amass enough following outside WWE. I don't agree with the practice, but WWE sees the HOF as a marketing gimmick and will try to win crossover fans like they have tried with celebrity inductions.

James Steele 01-01-2013 01:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rock Bottom (Post 4073563)
And do you think the Nasty Boys should stand shoulder to shoulder with Steve Austin in the hall of fame?

If that is the standard for getting in the Hall of Fame, there would only be 5 guys in the fucking thing.

whiteyford 01-01-2013 04:51 AM

Did gorgeous George wrestle for the WWE? Or the WWWF or whatever it was known as back then? Kinda hope not because I want to hear Rock Bottom explain why he shouldn't be in the HOF too. It's not an exclusively WWE HOF anymore, hasn't been for a while.

Rock Bottom 01-01-2013 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James Steele (Post 4073575)
If that is the standard for getting in the Hall of Fame, there would only be 5 guys in the fucking thing.

I'd prefer a much smaller Hall of Fame to a political circle jerk.

Rock Bottom 01-01-2013 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whiteyford (Post 4073626)
Did gorgeous George wrestle for the WWE? Or the WWWF or whatever it was known as back then? Kinda hope not because I want to hear Rock Bottom explain why he shouldn't be in the HOF too. It's not an exclusively WWE HOF anymore, hasn't been for a while.

You hope Goregous George wasn't associated with the WWE so that you could hear me explain why he shouldn't be in the hall of fame, and yet, I never said he didn't deserve it. I suppose you could throw another handful of wild names in an attempt to explain who the fuck Mil Mascaras is and what he did for the business.

You're comparing another huge name to "Mil Mascaras," who was a big star in a completely different country.

Gorgeous George wasn't inducted to jerk Alberto Del Rio off, or to show up in Mexico and tour like they give a shit about Mexico.

Anyone have a back story on the Nasty Boys and their hall of fame worthy jobs to the Steiner Bros?

whiteyford 01-01-2013 03:31 PM

Mil Mascaras was also a huge draw in LA and surrounding regions and would have went in eventually regardless of Del Rios involvement with the company. Your issue seems to be that you've no real idea who he is or what he's accomplished so clearly its to give Del Rio a pat on the back.

Anybody Thrilla 01-01-2013 04:00 PM

The Four Horsemen were never in WWE. Ric Flair's best time was spent elsewhere, too.

Lock Jaw 01-01-2013 04:00 PM

It was clearly done for Del Rio and other Mexicans. He would not have gone in for his "LA and surrounding regions" contributions.

That said, I have zero issues with that because I recognize that the WWE Hall of Fame is not a "legitimate" entity, but that is just for the purposes of business and entertainment.

whiteyford 01-01-2013 04:09 PM

Its a HOF based on who they want to acknowledge as being 'worthy', I'm not saying he wasn't put in as a marketing ploy for the hispaic market in the same way Inoki went in to gain the press attention in Japan or Khali is there to bolster the Indian market, but like Inoki he's deserving of a place in any HOF for his overall legacy.

crusnik 01-01-2013 05:39 PM

Actually Mil Mascaras was in the wwwf around the mid to late seventies,possibly 80- 81.He never stayed in one place too long.Also I believe that Bruno Sammartino should be inducted here,it's the perfect time for him to be in.WWE might make some kind of story line with Punk n ruining Bruno's HOF induction cause of the whole best in the world and best champ of all time thing.Also might be an angle for Bruno to come back and train someone to beat Punk(that's a longshot there, but you never know)

Curd 01-01-2013 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whiteyford (Post 4073773)
Its a HOF based on who they want to acknowledge as being 'worthy', I'm not saying he wasn't put in as a marketing ploy for the hispaic market in the same way Inoki went in to gain the press attention in Japan or Khali is there to bolster the Indian market, but like Inoki he's deserving of a place in any HOF for his overall legacy.

Aha, I knew there had to be other foreign examples! Great job, Whitey.

Curd 01-01-2013 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crusnik (Post 4073813)
Actually Mil Mascaras was in the wwwf around the mid to late seventies,possibly 80- 81.He never stayed in one place too long.Also I believe that Bruno Sammartino should be inducted here,it's the perfect time for him to be in.WWE might make some kind of story line with Punk n ruining Bruno's HOF induction cause of the whole best in the world and best champ of all time thing.Also might be an angle for Bruno to come back and train someone to beat Punk(that's a longshot there, but you never know)

Well, there we go. It's good to know Mil did more in WWE than a self-elimination which made him look totally goofy / unable to understand the Rumble rules from the Spanish announce team.

James Steele 01-01-2013 08:35 PM

I never understood why people view the WWE Hall of Fame as a joke. Since they started doing annual inductions at WrestleMania 20, I would argue there is not a more visible and credible entity to honor pro wrestling's past. You can nit-pick and bitch about Pete Rose or Drew Carey, but the majority of the guys in the Hall of Fame are more than deserving of having a night in which their career and legacy is honored and given a spotlight some of them have never gotten.

Rock Bottom 01-01-2013 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James Steele (Post 4073888)
I never understood why people view the WWE Hall of Fame as a joke. Since they started doing annual inductions at WrestleMania 20, I would argue there is not a more visible and credible entity to honor pro wrestling's past. You can nit-pick and bitch about Pete Rose or Drew Carey, but the majority of the guys in the Hall of Fame are more than deserving of having a night in which their career and legacy is honored and given a spotlight some of them have never gotten.

On one condition:

You are related to a WWE superstar and they're all going to go to Mexico (which is CONVENIENTLY where you are from).

James Steele 01-01-2013 09:14 PM

I'm not saying Del Rio being in WWE had nothing to do with him going in when he did, but to act like he is just some fucking Mexican jobber they inducted as a favor to Del Rio and a cheap appeal to the Mexican demo is fucking ridiculous.

weather vane 01-01-2013 09:34 PM

MM is more than deserving to be in a wrestling hall of fame. Shut up.

Lock Jaw 01-01-2013 10:06 PM

Should have put in El Dandy instead. Then everybody would be happy.

slik 01-01-2013 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James Steele (Post 4073168)

Never realized how much Shane Douglas looks like Guy Fieri.

DaveBrawl 01-01-2013 10:53 PM

Why are we arguing over a Hall of Fame? Every Hall of Fame sucks with some of their selections/omissions.

Bad News Gertner 01-02-2013 03:39 AM

At least the other Hall of Fame are you know, ACTUAL sports.

Skippord 01-02-2013 06:19 AM

I'm just glad no one's said anything mean about Koko B.Ware in here

whiteyford 01-02-2013 06:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rock Bottom (Post 4073901)
On one condition:

You are related to a WWE superstar and they're all going to go to Mexico (which is CONVENIENTLY where you are from).

Who is Inoki related to again?

whiteyford 01-02-2013 06:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveBrawl (Post 4073981)
Why are we arguing over a Hall of Fame? Every Hall of Fame sucks with some of their selections/omissions.

You mean the lack of Franchise?

Corporate CockSnogger 01-02-2013 06:53 AM

Jeff Jarrett, New Age Outlaws, Test, Kronik and Buff Bagwell all need to be in the Hall of Fame.


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