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Bad News Gertner 04-10-2013 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by ron the dial (Post 4171044)
because he is an "indy darling" and that's gertner's gimmick

Cesaro actually had me interested when he debuted.....then he opened his mouth and that was it for me.

Anybody Thrilla 04-10-2013 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Gertner (Post 4171049)
Ryback has been getting that for months

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Originally Posted by Ruien (Post 4171050)
Look at his reactions for the past 6 months.

Ryback is a product of his push. He was shoved down peoples throats until it caught on. At first, all he got was "Goldberg" chants, and he still does sometimes to this day. He's never really done anything spectacular. It's all about what you're given to do. Remember Skip Sheffield on NXT?

Anybody Thrilla 04-10-2013 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Gertner (Post 4171053)
Cesaro actually had me interested when he debuted.....then he opened his mouth and that was it for me.

As Asksana's rugby-playing boyfriend? Doubtful. I didn't even dig him then.

Bad News Gertner 04-10-2013 01:16 AM

He's lost pretty much every ppv match he's had and he's still very over. How was he shoved down peoples throats? He had no feud until September, wrestled in 2 minute squashes and never spoke and didn't fight for any titles. If anything he hasn't been pushed hard enough.

Bad News Gertner 04-10-2013 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 4171057)
As Asksana's rugby-playing boyfriend? Doubtful. I didn't even dig him then.

He had a decent look. Hell, Fandango has a dancing with the stars gimmick and is the talk of the wrestling world and people were going nuts here before he even debuted.

Shisen Kopf 04-10-2013 01:20 AM

I think to be great a rassler needs to rule in the ring and on the mic. That's why Bret Hart is best rassler ever. He was super awesome in the ring and cutting promos. Someone who was shit on the mic but great in the ring was "dogs are by the pool" Canadian murderer, forgot his name though.

Anybody Thrilla 04-10-2013 01:21 AM

He's built up as an incredible, unstoppable machine. That's easy to get behind. Only because he's booked that way. Mason Ryan could have been given his role and gotten a following, I bet.

Bad News Gertner 04-10-2013 01:21 AM

You know what I've never gotten about Ryback naysayers: they complain that no new talent is over or being developed and here comes Ryback who gets over and just because he's not a workrate king they shit on him.

Bad News Gertner 04-10-2013 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 4171064)
He's built up as an incredible, unstoppable machine. That's easy to get behind. Only because he's booked that way. Mason Ryan could have been given his role and gotten a following, I bet.

Mason Ryan is horrific in every which way.

Anybody Thrilla 04-10-2013 01:22 AM

I'm not even a Ryback naysayer. I'm just asking you to tell me what Ryback does so much better than Cesaro. There's room for more than one in the main event.

Anybody Thrilla 04-10-2013 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Gertner (Post 4171066)
Mason Ryan is horrific in every which way.

Mason Ryan could pull off Ryback's move set. His look is impressive. His promo is probably lateral movement. I'm reminded of Batista all of a sudden, too. He wasn't even a good promo until he turned into a cocky douche.

Bad News Gertner 04-10-2013 01:25 AM

He's got a better look, sadly better on the mic, not as good a wrestler though. Cesaro isn't a main eventer, but I have no problem with him being upper-mid. People think just because you label a guy not a main eventer that it's a huge diss, but the problem with the company is there is a huge lack of a supporting cast and Cesaro slots in well. Just not in the main event.

Bad News Gertner 04-10-2013 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 4171069)
Mason Ryan could pull off Ryback's move set. His look is impressive. His promo is probably lateral movement. I'm reminded of Batista all of a sudden, too. He wasn't even a good promo until he turned into a cocky douche.

Ryan has almost Khali level stiffness. Ryan could get over. In a bodyguard role, but not on his own. He doesn't have Ryback's explosiveness, but then again, Ryback doesn't have Goldberg's either.

Droford 04-10-2013 01:27 AM

FWIW...saw a bunch of people wearing Cessaro's shirt at WM.

If the back of it wasnt terrible, the front of it is one of the better logos for a shirt they have.

ron the dial 04-10-2013 01:27 AM

i agree that he's not main event material right now. but that doesn't exclude him from working his way there over time.

Anybody Thrilla 04-10-2013 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Gertner (Post 4170849)
He's boring as all hell

Somehow, this came off to me as you shitting on Cesaro.

Bad News Gertner 04-10-2013 01:29 AM

He's got to improve on his promo's. If he does than I have no problem moving him up.

Anybody Thrilla 04-10-2013 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by ron the dial (Post 4171074)
i agree that he's not main event material right now. but that doesn't exclude him from working his way there over time.

And he still deserves TV time over Brodus Clay, I feel.

Skippord 04-10-2013 01:29 AM

Ryback is not better on the mic than Cesaro. Cesaro at least sounds like he has all of his chromosomes

Skippord 04-10-2013 01:30 AM

#CesaroMarkRybackH8er

Bad News Gertner 04-10-2013 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 4171076)
Somehow, this came off to me as you shitting on Cesaro.

Right now he is. His mic skills are holding him back and with his size he's the type that Vince would like.

Anybody Thrilla 04-10-2013 01:30 AM

Thing is, I never even mentioned him main eventing in this thread. I was just wondering where the hell he's been. He was a highlight of many Raws for me over the past few months, and his downplay has been quite noticeable to me.

ron the dial 04-10-2013 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 4171078)
And he still deserves TV time over Brodus Clay, I feel.

a million times over, yes.

Malfeitor 04-10-2013 01:31 AM

I still think Ryback's catchphrase is more over than he is.

Anybody Thrilla 04-10-2013 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Malfeitor (Post 4171085)
I still think Ryback's catchphrase is more over than he is.

I think he should go back to "YUP YUP YUP...WHAT IT DO!"

Bad News Gertner 04-10-2013 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by ron the dial (Post 4171084)
a million times over, yes.

Clay is in a comedy tag team going nowhere.

Anybody Thrilla 04-10-2013 01:39 AM

A team that still gets exposure.

Skippord 04-10-2013 01:40 AM

I would like to hear Ryback say in his intense Ryback voice "Yup Yup Yup, What it do"

Also I would like to hear Titus O'Neill's weird awkward make it a win speech again.

Skippord 04-10-2013 01:40 AM

I miss NXT :'(

Bad News Gertner 04-10-2013 01:41 AM

I need Rufus Pancake Patterson to return

dronepool 04-10-2013 01:48 AM

Paul Heyman likes him, so let's see what he can do in the next few months.

Anybody Thrilla 04-10-2013 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Gertner (Post 4171099)
I need Rufus Pancake Patterson to return

I still have no idea what the point of that segment was, but I was entertained.

Bad News Gertner 04-10-2013 02:06 AM

Omg it was so random and people on 411mania just shit all over it, and I thought it was funny as hell.

Juan 04-10-2013 03:15 AM

I'd love to see a feud between Ceasaro and a returning Christian

Droford 04-10-2013 03:17 AM

Cessaro will win the WHC MITB match..or at least be on the short list of contenders..

Shadrick 04-10-2013 05:02 AM

I see Cody or Sandow winning it.

Corporate CockSnogger 04-10-2013 05:35 AM

There just aren't really that many midcard guys at the moment for him to do anything with without it getting repetitive. There's a bunch of lower and upper mid guys so they could bump someone up or down, but they're all a bit busy right now.

I wouldn't mind seeing him and Christian though, could probably get some big spots from them with Cesaro' strength and Chrisitans size and ability to bump.

Keith 04-10-2013 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Juan (Post 4171192)
I'd love to see a feud between Ceasaro and a returning Christian

Hmm, Christian.

I wonder if we get Dolph Ziggler vs Christian for the WHC at some point.

Bad News Gertner 04-10-2013 08:22 AM

That would make Christian a face and he's bland and dull as a face, so God no.

MoFo 04-10-2013 10:33 AM

lol, just read the Smackdown spoilers.

Why does he even still have the belt.


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