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Outsider 02-14-2017 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by The CyNick (Post 4928018)
Who has led the company during a growth period. So hopefully Corbin is similarly successful.

Correlation is not causation.

Nicky Fives 02-14-2017 07:23 AM

Nay. The guy has 14 strands of hair and insists on keeping it long. Not much charisma, too scrawny to be a "typical big man," too big and not seasoned enough to be a "good worker".... If he were to be released, I would not miss him slightly....

Mr. Nerfect 02-14-2017 07:55 AM

The Fives speaks some importance. :love:

Jordan 02-14-2017 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Nicky Fives (Post 4928381)
Nay. The guy has 14 strands of hair and insists on keeping it long. Not much charisma, too scrawny to be a "typical big man," too big and not seasoned enough to be a "good worker".... If he were to be released, I would not miss him slightly....

You have valid argument's however aside from his receding hairline, his charisma I disagree with. It's true heel charisma, you can't cheer this guy, he's a fucking dick and that bleeds through the screen to me. We need real heels and I feel that he's perfect for that role. Plus he has started to physically have real dynamic intensity about his work that I find believable for a WWE main eventer. He's only improving I think.

The CyNick 02-14-2017 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Outsider (Post 4928378)
Correlation is not causation.

Not would I claim he's directly responsible for all the WWEs recent success, but he has to get some credit for carrying the company while Cena has been hurt and doing outside projects. If the fans were really against him in a top spot, they would likely reject the product. So even if you don't want to say he's solely responsible for the upward trends, he's at least part of the equation of success, for which he deserves credit. And if you're looking for a new star, you would want them to contribute to success in a similar manner to what Roman has.

The CyNick 02-14-2017 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Nicky Fives (Post 4928381)
Nay. The guy has 14 strands of hair and insists on keeping it long. Not much charisma, too scrawny to be a "typical big man," too big and not seasoned enough to be a "good worker".... If he were to be released, I would not miss him slightly....

He's got the best finish, maybe since the RKO.

Evil Vito 02-14-2017 01:58 PM

Baron Corbin is excellent.

Maluco 02-14-2017 03:09 PM

I actually don't understand the negativity. I think he is great and something new and fresh is always welcome.

Totally agree with Cynick about End of Days too.

Entrance took a while to come together, but whole package is prob my favourite in the fed right now.

His 14 strands make him look different and help his unique look. He is finding himself and he is definitely one of the biggest reasons I like Smackdown.

But I guess that's why booking is so hard in general...A small cross section of fans on here and there is rarely ever a uniform opinion.

Lock Jaw 02-14-2017 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by The CyNick (Post 4928452)
He's got the best finish, maybe since the RKO.

Hence my current dream feud of Corbin/Orton

Wishbone 02-14-2017 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Maluco (Post 4928479)
I actually don't understand the negativity. I think he is great and something new and fresh is always welcome.

Totally agree with Cynick about End of Days too.

Entrance took a while to come together, but whole package is prob my favourite in the fed right now.

His 14 strands make him look different and help his unique look. He is finding himself and he is definitely one of the biggest reasons I like Smackdown.

But I guess that's why booking is so hard in general...A small cross section of fans on here and there is rarely ever a uniform opinion.

Unique doesn't necessarily equal good. His hair is absolutely disgusting looking.

Fives also brought up a good point about the rest of his look. He's tall, but nothing else about him is intimidating or even decent.

People always complain about a lot of the cruiserweights and others looking like "average Joes" but I never hear them complaining about Corbin on that front.

I can honestly say that I see guys like him on a regular basis around the local college campus. Tall guys who were good at sports in high school but that's about it. That's not the look of a world class wrestler.

Now, look isn't everything of course, but Corbin is lacking too much in other areas to make up for it.

Cool King 02-14-2017 07:40 PM

I really don't like the End of Days.

Terrible finisher.

Cool King 02-14-2017 07:41 PM

Also yeah, his hair annoys me.

He should really get it cut. He actually looks so much better when he's wearing a "beanie".

screech 02-14-2017 07:44 PM

I will say I am a fan of the Deep Six. Would be awesome to see him put someone THROUGH A TABLE with it.

Wishbone 02-14-2017 07:44 PM

Honestly I think he'd be better off using the deep-six as his finisher. It looks way more devastating IMHO.

Simple Fan 02-14-2017 07:54 PM

His hair wouldn't look as bad if he didn't slick it back. His hair has got way thin since joining WWE though.
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...PiGz_QHwAvbkVA

Was a lot thicker then, kind of looks like Mike Awesome a bit. Looks like Husky Haris with short hair though.

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/i...i5b_THFfU-MXwLhttps://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/i...MJ9MA7mGUjbdpg

Juan 02-14-2017 08:47 PM

Yay.

Working with guys like Kalisto, Ziggler and Crews has been great for him.

Feels like he's improving every week and the Ambrose feud should add to that

Mr. Nerfect 02-14-2017 10:20 PM

I'm also not a big fan of The End of Days. It feels like a indy finisher. "Look how unnecessarily cool my finish is." I will say kudos to him only ever fucking it up once to my memory.

EazyMack 02-15-2017 12:11 AM

Everyone who says nay is wrong.

The CyNick 02-15-2017 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 4928562)
Hence my current dream feud of Corbin/Orton

That would be a dream program. Great way to establish Corbin.

The CyNick 02-15-2017 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Noid (Post 4928770)
I'm also not a big fan of The End of Days. It feels like a indy finisher. "Look how unnecessarily cool my finish is." I will say kudos to him only ever fucking it up once to my memory.

You probably said the same thing the first time you saw the stunner.

Mr. Nerfect 02-15-2017 03:16 AM

Nope. Wrong again. For someone who claims to be a genius, you sure fuck up a lot.

XL 02-16-2017 07:35 AM

Meh. The hair/chin strap beard is a big factor in his look. I thought for a second he'd dyed the front until I realised it has just his scalp showing through. The normal go to would be shave his head but with that awful beard I think he'd look worse.

Maluco 02-16-2017 08:38 AM

I really do feel like people are being picky about his look tbh.

Dean Ambrose has a way worse look, including balding, weird longish hair and street clothes that don't even have the added personality of Corbin's, and I don't see too much complaining about that.

He didn't put a foot wrong on Smackdown this week either. He is developing all the time and I think he will win a lot of people round in the end.

Sepholio 02-16-2017 08:45 AM

Wait so having a really cool, devastating finisher makes it more indy? Guess Corbin should just use the spear or maybe a nice leg drop then.

The CyNick 02-16-2017 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Noid (Post 4928876)
Nope. Wrong again. For someone who claims to be a genius, you sure fuck up a lot.

Gotten to.

Ol Dirty Dastard 02-16-2017 09:21 AM

lmao

Ultra Mantis 02-16-2017 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Maluco (Post 4929375)
I really do feel like people are being picky about his look tbh.

Dean Ambrose has a way worse look, including balding, weird longish hair and street clothes that don't even have the added personality of Corbin's, and I don't see too much complaining about that.

He didn't put a foot wrong on Smackdown this week either. He is developing all the time and I think he will win a lot of people round in the end.

Dean Ambrose's look is probably the second biggest complaint against him, right after that forced rebound clothesline spot he does every single match. If Ambrose actually got some ring gear he would look much less out of place at the top of the card.

Third biggest complaint is his shitty punches. Ambrose / Shane bareknuckle boxing match for Mania plz.

Cool King 02-16-2017 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Maluco (Post 4929375)
I really do feel like people are being picky about his look tbh.

Dean Ambrose has a way worse look, including balding, weird longish hair and street clothes that don't even have the added personality of Corbin's, and I don't see too much complaining about that.

He didn't put a foot wrong on Smackdown this week either. He is developing all the time and I think he will win a lot of people round in the end.

I'm not really a fan on Ambrose's look either, If I'm honest.

He his balding too, but it's nowhere near as much as Corbin's balding but also, it kinda adds to Ambrose's character, whereas Corbin's balding really takes away from his character.

Corbin is supposed to be this intimidating lone wolf, but a man who's emotionless and heavily balding with long stringy hair and weak facial hair isn't really intimidating. If anything, it's slightly creepy. It's a "I don't want him near my kids" kind of creepy.

Simple Fan 02-16-2017 02:15 PM

Ambrose's look is fine I think. Hed look like a bit bigger James Ellsworth in regular ring gear.

SlickyTrickyDamon 02-16-2017 02:17 PM

Doesn't that make him a face?

EazyMack 02-16-2017 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruien (Post 4927524)
I feel this will be 66% yet.

Dang, exactly right at this point (27, 18). :naughty:

Bobholly138 02-17-2017 02:33 AM

Only seen him 2 times now and nothing about him stands out.

Mr. Nerfect 02-17-2017 04:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Seph (Post 4929378)
Wait so having a really cool, devastating finisher makes it more indy? Guess Corbin should just use the spear or maybe a nice leg drop then.

It's not devastating, it's a flatliner with theatrics.

Mr. Nerfect 02-17-2017 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by The CyNick (Post 4929379)
Gotten to.

Swing and miss.

Mr. Nerfect 02-17-2017 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Cool King (Post 4929527)
I'm not really a fan on Ambrose's look either, If I'm honest.

He his balding too, but it's nowhere near as much as Corbin's balding but also, it kinda adds to Ambrose's character, whereas Corbin's balding really takes away from his character.

Corbin is supposed to be this intimidating lone wolf, but a man who's emotionless and heavily balding with long stringy hair and weak facial hair isn't really intimidating. If anything, it's slightly creepy. It's a "I don't want him near my kids" kind of creepy.

Ha, agreed.

Maluco 02-17-2017 05:49 AM

Lol, it adds to Ambrose character, but takes away from Corbin? I think we are really stretching here.

I understand not liking the character, but these are very minor things. If he shaves and cuts his hair, is he a main eventer?

He has definitely had his cardboard moments, but he is getting better in almost every way, every week, and is slowly finding that character.

I could easily say that I think his lack of emotion and cold demeanour add to the idea he is a lone wolf and a cold, uncaring individual.

At the end of the day, he has way more positives than negatives IMO and couple that with the fact he is improving almost weekly...He will be a world champ before the end of the year.

Wishbone 02-17-2017 02:36 PM

Similar looks can work for one character and not another. Corbin is presented as a biker bad ass. When you here those words what kind of person comes to mind? If you said Corbin you're either a liar or you've never seen a real biker in your life.

Dean on the other hand is portrayed literally as "the dude." He's supposed to look out of place. He's that wacky and crazy uncle who everyone loves but are also slightly afraid of. Now is that the best presentation for him? Well, no, in my opinion it's not, but for what it is it works.

Vastardikai 02-17-2017 03:54 PM

Wait, Corbin's supposed to be a biker?

I thought he was a wannabe school shooter who couldn't get his hands on a gun.

Wishbone 02-17-2017 04:14 PM

That joke has really proven my point about his look. Lol

KIRA 02-17-2017 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by The CyNick (Post 4928844)
You probably said the same thing the first time you saw the stunner.


Nope stunner looks legit painful end of days is a glorified flat-liner and most versions of that move just look like your giving yourself a slam and like it hurts you far more than your opponent.


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