If you think that montreal is too elaborate to be a work go look up the pilman incident specifically bischoffs long term plan

Yeah but Bischoff worked himself into a shoot lol

Did he? Pillmans long term plans are only known to him at this point. Maybe he was playing the middle or maybe he was selling it.

Legit fired Pillman and Pillman signed w/ the WWF

That was the plan

why?

Bischoff tells the story that the idea was to have pilman go over there, climb their ranks and then return as a defector. And conquering hero. The whole thing was a work. The bookerman incident, the firing, going to new york. All of it, that was the design.

How about that Daniel Bryan vs. HBK, though? What a match that would have been to see in real life!

But was Pillman not just agreeing to it to get his release and he had no intention of ever going back? That's what I always heard...

No one knows frankly.

Its def one of the all time dream matches. Along with Danielson v Angle

Oh and also I voted for hbk because he grabbed Adam Copelands cock.

He did what to the who

I THINK DESTOR IS RIGHT.

Easy choice when you've got the greatest of recent times v. one of the GOAT (HBK). Shawn wins by default in a laugher of a match-up.

"How to make Daniel Bryan lose".


Can not vote against HBK, he is pretty much the greatest of all time as a complete package. The only "bad" thing about HBK's whole career was his several year absence during the attitude era with his injury but he more then made up for it with his incredible matches after his return.


HBK may be a huge asshole backstage, but he quintessentially the complete package of a wrestler. Amazing on the mic, incredible in the ring, an icon, an amazing presence inside and outside the ring, and in some ways a pioneer for the industry with contributions still felt today.


Daniel Bryan is a great, but he is one of many (in terms of wrestling history altogether). HBK is a legend. If wrestling history was a textbook, HBK would have his own chapter, while a guy like Bryan might get a few paragraphs.


I don't think anybody can touch HBK at this point. I love Daniel Bryan and I think if he was given a longer career and perhaps other stars to work with, he could've reached much higher, but at this point, it's a no brainer to pick HBK over him.

HBK IS GOING TO HAVE A NICE WINNING STREAK. IT WILL TAKE AN AUSTIN, HOGAN, OR ROCK TO TAKE HIM OUT.

There's so much wrong with these sentences...

OK, so maybe DB wasn't one of the greatest of recent times, but that's the only concession I'll make.

No, that's not the problem. lol

So then you admit there's actually nothing wrong with my post, despite your claim to the contrary...

And then Vince found out and sent a hit man after him. As per the rumor. Idk if I believe all that.

Do you know what "by default" means?

You basically said "Daniel Bryan is the greatest wrestler of recent times" and then said HBK only wins because the competition is shit. lol

Yeah i draw the line at that point. I meam Vince has had his hands in some shady stuff...but that would ne the apex

lol "I know what I'll do. I'll kill him." seems like a bit of an over reaction to finding out about the plan. Releasing him would suffice.

I wonder if he had Jimmy Snuka do it.

I never said that about DB. I just said as great as he was, Shawn was a notch better. I certainly don't think anyone will ever mistake them as completely equal to one another career wise.

I also still don't think you know what "by default" means.

#ABTWasRight

Favorite Michaels match?

I'll go vs. Mankind at Mind Games.

Hot match.

Michaels v Angle Wrestlemania or Flair v Michaels...dunno.

Favorite danielson match was v colt cabana 2 out of 3 falls. To be fair the booking is why but the finish was just so damn smart...cant remember what card that was on

Couldn't even choose a favorite HBK match. It changes based on my mood. First Taker WM match, Flair retirement, HHH @ SummerSlam '02 and the iron man match with Bret for sentimental reasons would be up there.

Also, I actually prefer his Vengeance match with Angle over the WrestleMania one.

Favorite Daniel Bryan match is either 2 out of 3 falls against Sheamus or the Royal Rumble match against Bray Wyatt.

Oh man but his Angle matches are just bonkers

Hard to choose. But Mick and shawns style meshed. Mick has a unique style where most of his offence looks really cool but it is safe and Shawn can take his own bumps while Mick also risks life from limb.

Foley as Mankind in the original heel run was actually a tremendous athlete in that he had a lot of awkward mass to move but he was quick, fit, while understatedly massive

ROH Gut Check. The match Bryan hurts his shoulder in the first 7 minutes and wrestled 60.

Yessssssssssssss


So good

Daniel Bryan is so overrated. If it wasn't for the YES chant and team Hell No he would no way be as over or considered as good as he is.

TRUE STORY: BILLY ZANE CAME UP WITH THE YES CHANT.

Can't believe that hussy Rose left him to be with that Jack. Poor Billy Zane