lucha underground last I heard.

Currently, half way across the Rio Grande.

There's a ton of shit if you look at it logically that can be classed as outright stupid, why do people bounce off the ropes? Someone grabs their hand and "throws them", they then take off running towards the ropes, turn so their back hits the ropes and then take off running back towards the opponent, and at no point can they stop themselves despite it being all their own doing. :?:

The slingshot, the old move where wrestler grabs opponents legs, falls backwards and this somehow catapults the opponent up and over, instead of both wrestlers ending up flat on their backs, as someone falling back holding your legs is not going to send you flying across a ring.

As mentioned ambrose's middle rope gimmick that has all the speed of an arthritic turtle, yet always manages to catch out the opponent who's looking right at him.

Old School, an arm wringer is so painful the opponent dare not move to interrupt the guy tap dancing across the top rope.

Stratusfaction, the mere fact the opponent visibly lifts her up to do this just says it all.

That's just a few of the really obvious ones, if you want to get really logical about it probably 99% of what happens in a wrestling ring makes no sense.

Going with this route, why is an opponents body completely straight and rigid on a verticle suplex or piledriver (rip)?

Yup, the thought of struggling to get out of the move never occurred to them :p

Ladder matches really make me roll my eyes with the amount of shit that goes on in them, flip flopping everywhere but climbing a ladder shortly after is like climbing Everest naked. As slow as possible obviously as possible.

He had recently been in talks with WWE to possibly return soon, but it appears that won't be happening.

I hope not.

LOL I'm with ya.

Same here, they would get 2 matches out of him before he's out injured for another 12 months. Seemed to be an injury magnet in his last stint.

I will say, however, I did quite enjoy his feud with Chavo.

That stomp thing that ADR does where the opponent is in a tree of woe and they have to forcibly hold themselves up with the ropes while he appeals to the crowd with his finger circle whistle thing before stomping on their chest. So fucking stupid.

Yeah, that move was so dumb. Whenever someone would actually counter it via.... y'know.... just not holding themselves up, it was like "Finally! Now why doesn't everybody do that?"

Wait, is there a video of that somewhere?

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Here's another one that comes to mind, test's pump handle slam. How many times did he actually fucking hit that move? Seemed like 99% of the time the opponent would just slide over his back to counter it. He used that for ages before seemingly coming to the conclusion it rarely ever worked before resorting to the big boot. :shifty:



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The stratusfacation, Stevie Wonder and Ray Charles both called bullshit on this move.

You have to see this if you feel that way. This is the disintegration of working at its best example. Watch Verne lock in this roll up, tell me it doesn't look like a legit way to end a match. The video is at the right spot when you click play.

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Wow, who the fuck came up with this stupid stomp shit? You can see Kofi climbing in order to get stomped on. Sad.

THANK YOU!

That's R-Truth, asshole.

Yeah, I said black guy. Asshole.

I noticed this in the Braun vs Brock match and I think it turns up often. I don't like how Brock had Braun in the kimura and Braun was selling it like he was in a sleeper hold or something, just like slowly collapsing to the mat. It feels like two guys just going through the motions instead of selling the actual move.

Any spot that requires your oponent to to something in order for you to initiate it. Kidmans counter. Ortons line, line, duck one powerslam. Hulking up.

To the earlier the comment irish whips arent as illogical is Gerard made them out to be. Coming at it from the wrong perspective.

Whips are much lazier now but initially whips were pretty forceful. Enough that you would stagger a few steps for certain and likewise the ropes do shoot produce enough spring that you do come ouit a few steps.

So the logic is its not that i cant stop, its that its in my best interest to keep going.

When i hit the ropes i have momentum and you dont so this favors me if say im coming in with a shoulder tackle ora line or whatever. Letting me get a running start isnt a disadvantage. If i stopped i wpuld stagger and be venerable to be cut off witha blind side shot to the back.

But the actual work of it is yes i am voluntarily hitting the ropes because i like my odds.

Not saying theyre realistic but there is*some* logic.

Just like the drop down had some originally and the leap frog did as well...but over time theyve been used so absurdly that theyve lost most of the logic tey had

WHAT IF EVERYONE STOPPED USING THE IRISH WHIP?

One of those things that i think every worker should do is work for a month without touching the ropes, they can become a crutch HOWEVER never using them again would be dumb. They add excitement and are accepted by the overwhelming majority

I LIKE PEOPLE BOUNCING OFF THE ROPES, BUT MAYBE THEY COULD USE MORE BODY SLAMS INSTEAD OF WHIPS.

More "rest holds," but acting like they could actually end the match.

I would laugh my ass off if a match ended with a side headlock. Dude just passes out in it (which would actually happen if it's properly applied). People would shit all over it for the first week. Next week, side headlock, same result.

Third week, opponent is afraid of the headlock, actively tries to avoid it. This time, gets caught in a front facelock and passes out in it.

Personally, I liked it better when it was just a rope dive feint (which *sometimes* led to an actual dive to follow- it wasn't always) and not an actual offensive kick to the face it became in WWE.

Did I ever tell you guys about the WCW house show I was at in like 1999? I was in the 2nd row with some friends, and we had been yelling with the wrestlers all night, and they had been responding. It was awesome.

So Chris Benoit is wrestling Billy Kidman, and from the opening bell, I keep yelling to Benoit "DO NOT POWERBOMB KIDMAN! HE WILL FLIP OUT OF IT! DO NOT POWERBOMB HIM!".

The match goes on normally for a while, until Benoit sets Kidman up between his legs for a powerbomb. I yell out "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!".

Benoit looks directly at me and snarls before delivering a successful powerbomb that Kidman does not flip out of.

I know that spot was called for me.

That's fucking hilarious.

Heres another one that comes to mind, that you used to see quite a bit but less so these days.

The other variation of the slingshot, where a wrestler on the apron of the ring holding onto the ropes somehow gets flipped head over heels into the ring because the opponent inside the ring pushed and pulled the ropes back and forth.
:-\:wtf:

A lotta spring in those ropes, ya know.

Would take their boots to be loaded with them as well. :lol:

Lotta spring in those boots, ya know.

Like when the springs in Cesaro' s boots malfunctioned and he jumped so high and hard into the ringpost after a slingshot that he broke his teeth.

His teeth actually got shoved 4mm or so up into his gums, didn't even think that was possible without crushing the root but apparently it is.

You don't see it much anymore but the abdominal stretch always bothered me because it obviously doesn't hurt since I have never seen it submit anyone.

Not exactly on kopic but the styles clash. Low impact. Awkward set up. One of the worst move of all time.

I never got the hard-on for that move either, the opponent is only a couple of feet from the mat and there's not much impact. If done wrong it can really fuck someones neck up, but when hit properly its pretty unimpressive given the bullshit they have to go through to set it up.

Styles clash was the worst.