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Bad News Gertner 11-14-2017 09:22 PM

He's worth a billion dollars so he's doing something right

slik 11-15-2017 03:30 AM

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Swiss Ultimate 11-15-2017 07:04 PM

I don't know how I feel about that match. It wasn't exciting, but it felt "solid". Like I really like Storm and despite the audio problems and the microscopic audience (with half-hearted "this is awesome" chants) I enjoyed it like a WCW Thunder match.

I see what they're going for though and I hope they get there.

Simple Fan 11-15-2017 08:07 PM

Yeah that match sucked. Tim Storm is very sluggish and I don't know what kind of finish that was. Some of the worst transitions I've seen. Beginning of the match was very flat even for a filling out process, no real momentum either way and then when it didpick up Aldis pulled the knee injury and was back another filling out process. Then I don't think they even played on the knee injury the rest the match.

I get what they were going for and what story they were trying to tell but it wasn't executed well. Trying to present Tim Storm as a throwback to the NWA's heyday won't work. He's nowhere capable of pulling off a technical wrestling match and his comeback had no energy to it. Should have started with him squashing a nobody because that match did the NWA no favors. Actually he should be squshed in his next outing.

SlickyTrickyDamon 11-15-2017 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Bad News Gertner (Post 5042466)
He's worth a billion dollars so he's doing something right

He's about 950 million short.

#1-norm-fan 11-15-2017 08:24 PM

Kinda feels like, while everyone thought they were just trying to rush the title off of the old regime's guy, they're taking their time. Which is a good idea. Magnus isn't exactly a mega-star waiting to be made. Storm's already got the title. You can't erase his reign from the record book. Might as well try to make him look good and then wait til you have "your guy" in place to take it off of him.

*cough*Ryback

Emperor Smeat 11-15-2017 08:49 PM

Maybe if Ryback reduces his asking price since last time it was reported, he wanted around $5000 per show.

mhirn3 11-15-2017 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5042890)
Maybe if Ryback reduces his asking price since last time it was reported, he wanted around $5000 per show.

Damn. So he has to bring in 500 people extra at $10 for a show that they didn't normally have come see their show.....probably not.

Mr. Nerfect 11-15-2017 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5042890)
Maybe if Ryback reduces his asking price since last time it was reported, he wanted around $5000 per show.

If Emma is worth $2,000, Ryback is worth $20,000.

Destor 11-16-2017 01:37 PM

They need the belt on an unknown. Make their own star.

SlickyTrickyDamon 11-16-2017 01:57 PM

That's what they have now.

#BROKEN Hasney 11-16-2017 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SlickyTrickyDamon (Post 5043045)
That's what they have now.

McMahon Sheep,,,,,,,,

#1-norm-fan 11-16-2017 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Destor (Post 5043037)
They need the belt on an unknown. Make their own star.

They need eyes on the product first. Can't build your own stars if no one's watching.

Ol Dirty Dastard 11-16-2017 02:29 PM

They need CM Punk. Corgan has the Chi Town connection. Wish Punk.never got involved w MMA cuz his next fight will be a waste and he will need to lick his wounds for another 5 years before he realized wrestling was his bread and butter.

#BROKEN Hasney 11-16-2017 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 5043051)
They need eyes on the product first. Can't build your own stars if no one's watching.

I think this was a move to say to any existing fans that's he's not trying to build a new TNA like promotion and he's in for the long haul. Championship Wrestling From Hollywood is probably the 4th most watched US promotion with their new deal, so partnering with them while they get their own shit sorted is a good move.

Destor 11-16-2017 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 5043051)
They need eyes on the product first. Can't build your own stars if no one's watching.

And you do that by building up a marketable guy. Feed people thay people are interested in. Either indy darlings or recent cast offs.

#1-norm-fan 11-16-2017 05:42 PM

I agree. But putting the title on someone and THEN trying to build him up is the backwards way of doing it.

#1-norm-fan 11-16-2017 05:43 PM

It's the main reason why WWE's titles have meant shit for the past decade plus.

#1-norm-fan 11-16-2017 05:49 PM

If someone's an unknown right now it's for one of two reasons. They aren't good or they aren't ready. Either way, putting your world title on them would be counterproductive.

Destor 11-16-2017 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 5043142)
If someone's an unknown right now it's for one of two reasons. They aren't good or they aren't ready. Either way, putting your world title on them would be counterproductive.

This thought process essentially assumes the fed is omniscient

#1-norm-fan 11-16-2017 08:28 PM

What? How? In no way does it take omniscience to not put the title on a guy until he's been built and gotten over. It's about as far from assuming the fed is omniscient at you can get.

Emperor Smeat 11-16-2017 10:39 PM

Next NWA title match was announced to be Nick Aldis vs. Tim Storm again.

NWA also currently taking bookings from indies for future NWA title matches.

Mr. Nerfect 11-18-2017 03:56 AM

I think you've both got points. On one hand, I completely get where fan is coming from. People have been conditioned to expect the journey, and it's possible to make the case that it's the cart before the horse. But Destor's got a point in saying that this is just how we've been conditioned by the WWE. There's something charming about them just having this guy who is the guy. That used to be how things were done.

I'm not sure if Tim Storm is that guy. I don't know how many people would be willing to book the NWA World Champion or a 55 year old champion. But he was champion when Corgan took over and they're taking baby steps with it. I dunno, I'm not super-invested but I'm not turned off entirely either. I don't really want them to go with Magnus though. Nothing against him, I just don't see him that guy I really want to go out of my way to watch. I hope Storm beats him again and that sets off Magnus, who turns on Storm and beats him down after the match. Keep them separate for a while and have Storm push for the match. Meanwhile he beats those guys that Destor alluded to.

Bad News Gertner 11-18-2017 10:23 AM

He looks like Arnold Skaaland on the gas

#BROKEN Hasney 11-21-2017 06:46 AM

Tim Storm is going to CZW CAGE OF DEATH with the title.

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Simple Fan 11-21-2017 01:45 PM

He and Aldis were also at House of Hardcore and Tommy Dreamer challenged Storm before Aldis cane out and said he was first and that Storm knew that finish was bullshit.

Mr. Nerfect 11-21-2017 06:24 PM

Tommy Dreamer is a younger man with more experience. It's actually a really good match...in theory. In execution, I imagine it will be abysmal.

#BROKEN Hasney 11-21-2017 09:14 PM

I think it'll be neither for the CZW match. They don't have an iPPV deal even these days, but the name is roughly known at least.

Think a Dreamer match will happen at House of Hardcore. They've got that Twitch streaming deal now brother brother, so some good exposure to see it for free.

Mr. Nerfect 11-24-2017 06:54 PM

Oh yeah, House of Hardcore seems appropriate for the Dreamer match.

Simple Fan 11-24-2017 08:10 PM

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Mr. Nerfect 11-25-2017 10:47 PM

Very sweet.

Tom Guycott 11-29-2017 01:08 AM

Something about Tim bothered me, and I couldn't figure out what it is until now.

He reminds me of Mr. Dream. If you don't know who I mean, I'm talking about the last boxer in NES Punch-Out!! post Tyson. The later versions of that game scrubbed the most famous boxer in the world short of Muhammad Ali, and put in a very generic looking white dude. It was still *technically* Mike Tyson in movement and function, but they completely altered the palates and bio.

Mr. Nerfect 11-29-2017 07:16 AM

He reminds me of Samoa Joe for some reason. Something about how he looks in profile, I think.

Tom Guycott 11-29-2017 07:30 AM

I actually was going to say that. He does kinda look like a whitewashed Joe; it's more the facial features (especially the nose) than build, but I felt the Mr. Dream comparison was more apt. He has one of those dubiously ethnic looks that, had he wrestled back in the 50's, he would have been gimmick'd as some sort of Native American in one territory, a Polish powerhouse in another, and possibly an extra large Jew in a third if none of the places overlapped or unless one of those got him super over everywhere... yet still just a random, generic looking white guy at the same time.

Maluco 11-29-2017 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Noid (Post 5050496)
He reminds me of Samoa Joe for some reason. Something about how he looks in profile, I think.

I think it is the movement, hunched at shoulders and then the round face

Mr. Nerfect 11-29-2017 05:36 PM

Yeah, I think you might be right about that. Good for the guy. I haven't had to watch his matches yet, so I have nothing but good will towards him right now, haha. I like his presentation as champion.

Droford 12-09-2017 08:44 AM

I'm watching the Tim Storm vs Nick Aldis match that was on Championship Wrestling from Hollywood

Droford 12-09-2017 08:47 AM

And..my satellite just went out. Fuck

Droford 12-09-2017 08:59 AM

That match was awful

Emperor Smeat 12-10-2017 08:56 PM

Nick Aldis defeated Tim Storm to become the new NWA champ at yesterday's CZW event. Crowd hated it because of the bait-and-switch done since it was originally promoted as Tim Storm vs a CZW wrestler to be named at the event. Also hated Aldis as the new champ.


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