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Emperor Smeat 11-27-2017 03:56 PM

No. He should have retired after the streak was killed off by Lesnar or after the HBK special guest ref match at Mania.

Once the streak was over, Taker's purpose for Mania was pretty much done. Same for the sendoff done for the "End of an Era" match to leave Mania on a high note.

Fignuts 11-27-2017 03:59 PM

His work with Austin was always good.

WrestleMania 17 and 18 against HHH and Flair respectively, were really good.

The ladder match on raw against Jeff Hardy.

Black Widow 11-27-2017 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sixx (Post 5049019)
He's the wrestling equivalent of the band KISS.

Must make the current roster the local bar band.

Anybody Thrilla 11-27-2017 04:06 PM

I did enjoy Booger Red more than Deadman. There, I said it.

hb2k 11-27-2017 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 5049058)
His work with Austin was always good.

I never thought they clicked, as much as they wrestled each other, I have a hard time remembering one that I consider above average...

Evil Vito 11-27-2017 04:16 PM

Loved the Taker/Edge feud

slik 11-27-2017 04:19 PM

Taker vs Batista was really good IMO

slik 11-27-2017 04:20 PM

Kane should get a new gimmick where he thinks he is both Taker and Kane and wear a singlet that is half-taker/half-kane

No pyro tho b/c pyro was cut

Ol Dirty Dastard 11-27-2017 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by hb2k (Post 5049064)
I never thought they clicked, as much as they wrestled each other, I have a hard time remembering one that I consider above average...

They had a couple above average that I've seen.... but nowhere NEAR the amount they should have given how much they worked together.

Keep in mind though, when they hooked up they were both broken down. In fact I don't know if I can remember a point where Taker wasn't broken down lol.

Anybody Thrilla 11-27-2017 05:06 PM

Right. Hence me not being that into him.

mike adamle 11-27-2017 05:42 PM

I'm hopeful he decides to wrestle one more, since I have floor tickets for Mania. I wanna see that 20 minute entrance live. Not sure who I'd wanna see him face though. Maybe a rematch with Roman Reigns. I'd love to see him vs. Cena at Mania but I'm not sure how you'd get there. Him vs. AJ Styles is probably the only other one I really want to see.

Helmsphere 11-27-2017 05:49 PM

Only if it's to put over Tatanka

mike adamle 11-27-2017 05:58 PM

Would also like to see another Undertaker-Kurt Angle match, would be sick if they did it at Mania.

Lock Jaw 11-27-2017 06:22 PM

Only if he agrees to face me, Lock Jaw

KIRA 11-27-2017 06:42 PM

Why does Taker want to destroy everything we hold dear about him?

Shisen Kopf 11-27-2017 06:49 PM

Biker Taker has never lost at Rasslemania. There's still a streak

Black Widow 11-27-2017 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KIRA (Post 5049133)
Why does Taker want to destroy everything we hold dear about him?

Didn't see wrestlers from the 60s/70s needing to show in the 80s/90s.

Cause the roster wasn't absolute garbage.

ClockShot 11-27-2017 07:10 PM

Simple answer: No.

KIRA 11-27-2017 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Black Widow (Post 5049146)
Didn't see wrestlers from the 60s/70s needing to show in the 80s/90s.

Cause the roster wasn't absolute garbage.

Gonna disagree slightly the roster is talented as hell but they have the personalties of driftwood. If Southpaw Wrestling is any indicator the blandness we see in the ring is more the result of writing teams.

OverTaker 11-27-2017 07:37 PM

Still got some tombstones left in him.

Lock Jaw 11-27-2017 07:49 PM

Still got some *DONG*s left in him.

OverTaker 11-27-2017 07:55 PM

DONG GONG RIGHT!

Helmsphere 11-27-2017 11:49 PM

Whoa, you need to

http://www.tpwwforums.com/signaturep...pic16757_1.gif

OverTaker 11-28-2017 12:21 AM

I'd rather blow my load on Stephanie McMahons face, but ok!

Tom Guycott 11-28-2017 12:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 5049052)
Alright, that was good too, but what's that...7 matches that I enjoyed him in over twenty five years or so? Even when those matches were good, I was never really interested in the entire program usually. I respect who he is and what he's done, but he's not exactly my cup of tea.

He's no SCOTT NORTON, that's for sure.

Went ahead and fix'd that for you.

Mr. JL 11-28-2017 01:13 AM

Honestly, I want to see The Undertaker wrestle again.

For the simple fact that that I want him to go out on a great, memorable match. The last great match he had was with CM Punk; the rest Triple H x 2, Lesnar, Wyatt, McMahon & Reigns felt like nothing special for his legacy.

In an ideal world, both him and Shawn Michaels should have retired after their first WrestleMania match because that match was fucking AMAZING and in the MAIN EVENT at WRESTLE FUCKING MANIA!!!

AJ Styles versus The Undertaker at this year's WrestleMania is the best chance for a monumental (Great) match worthy of The Undertaker's retirement.

P.S. I still cannot believe that the WWE did not capitalize on a Sting versus The Undertaker match when they had the opportunity.

Mr. Nerfect 11-28-2017 04:06 AM

I voted no, but I've never been a big Taker fan. I can't think of an opponent I'd like to see him face that I wouldn't prefer someone else wrestle. Just let him go into the Hall of Fame and do the entrance one last time at WrestleMania when he headlines the class in the place he lost his streak.

DONG

TSI 11-28-2017 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sixx (Post 5049019)
He's the wrestling equivalent of the band KISS.

This. Would you really want to see kiss at this point? Its not the show you would want at this stage.

Sixx 11-28-2017 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TSI (Post 5049755)
This. Would you really want to see kiss at this point? Its not the show you would want at this stage.

Yeah, it's pretty much like watching my dad in spandex and make-up times 4. No, thanks.

Black Widow 11-28-2017 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KIRA (Post 5049172)
Gonna disagree slightly the roster is talented as hell but they have the personalties of driftwood. If Southpaw Wrestling is any indicator the blandness we see in the ring is more the result of writing teams.

I watched 2 episodes thought it was corny.

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Originally Posted by Sixx (Post 5049757)
Yeah, it's pretty much like watching my dad in spandex and make-up times 4. No, thanks.

Too bad crowd reaction outweighs this small forums opinions.

Sixx 11-28-2017 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Black Widow (Post 5049843)
I watched 2 episodes thought it was corny.

Too bad crowd reaction outweighs this small forums opinions.

The question was "Do YOU want..." not "Do you think the CROWD wants..."

And of course people that pay to go to PPVs are gonna cheer. Guy is a legend and has a legendary (even though I find it boring as fuck) entrance. But that is it.

Anybody Thrilla 11-28-2017 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Guycott (Post 5049673)
Went ahead and fix'd that for you.

Take Emma out of one more of my posts and see where our relationship goes.

Black Widow 11-28-2017 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sixx (Post 5049845)
The question was "Do YOU want..." not "Do you think the CROWD wants..."

And of course people that pay to go to PPVs are gonna cheer. Guy is a legend and has a legendary (even though I find it boring as fuck) entrance. But that is it.

Whatever!

I'm sure you got plenty of boring fucks on your list of favs.

Sixx 11-28-2017 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Black Widow (Post 5050008)
Whatever!

I'm sure you got plenty of boring fucks on your list of favs.

At least they wrestle longer then it takes them to get to the ring.

TSI 11-28-2017 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sixx (Post 5050012)
At least they wrestle longer then it takes them to get to the ring.

:rofl:

Mr. Nerfect 11-29-2017 06:04 AM

One of my more controversial opinions on wrestling is that I actually wonder how much Undertaker has hurt the business. Inside it, everybody respects Taker, and this isn't actually meant as a knock on him. The dude did break his body for our entertainment and was involved in some classics. I'm not doubting that.

What I do doubt is how much widespread appeal there actually is in the guy. He did draw early in his career, but beyond that, Taker has actually performed quite badly when it comes to garnering PPV buys -- a trend that has followed him, except for a few notable occasions -- into even his run as an active legend. HBK vs. Taker didn't do too well at WrestleMania XXVI.

There's also the issue of the talent he has gone out of his way to try and get one over. It's not as bad as, say, Triple H, but he's one of the worse offenders for a good period of time there. 2000-2002 were pretty dark times. And then when you get into his later career, I wonder how many people were actually turned off by the gimmick and a guy that old still being presented as a major attraction. You can't measure the money you don't make, but I do wonder how many people think it's kind of hokey the guy stuck around in a protected spot for as long as he did. Was it really the best for wrestling, as rewarding as it may have been for The Undertaker or fans of his (of which I consider Vince McMahon one of the biggest).

Just some food for thought. I'm sure many will disagree with me. I know Destor ranks him quite highly. I just wonder if it ticked over to a point where you're only appealing to a certain type of fan. Which is what wrestling is right now, and he's certainly a bigger star than a bunch of non-stars. But maybe a world where The Undertaker's streak ends much earlier than it did in ours is actually a much healthier one?

TSI 11-29-2017 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noid (Post 5050491)
One of my more controversial opinions on wrestling is that I actually wonder how much Undertaker has hurt the business. Inside it, everybody respects Taker, and this isn't actually meant as a knock on him. The dude did break his body for our entertainment and was involved in some classics. I'm not doubting that.

What I do doubt is how much widespread appeal there actually is in the guy. He did draw early in his career, but beyond that, Taker has actually performed quite badly when it comes to garnering PPV buys -- a trend that has followed him, except for a few notable occasions -- into even his run as an active legend. HBK vs. Taker didn't do too well at WrestleMania XXVI.

There's also the issue of the talent he has gone out of his way to try and get one over. It's not as bad as, say, Triple H, but he's one of the worse offenders for a good period of time there. 2000-2002 were pretty dark times. And then when you get into his later career, I wonder how many people were actually turned off by the gimmick and a guy that old still being presented as a major attraction. You can't measure the money you don't make, but I do wonder how many people think it's kind of hokey the guy stuck around in a protected spot for as long as he did. Was it really the best for wrestling, as rewarding as it may have been for The Undertaker or fans of his (of which I consider Vince McMahon one of the biggest).

Just some food for thought. I'm sure many will disagree with me. I know Destor ranks him quite highly. I just wonder if it ticked over to a point where you're only appealing to a certain type of fan. Which is what wrestling is right now, and he's certainly a bigger star than a bunch of non-stars. But maybe a world where The Undertaker's streak ends much earlier than it did in ours is actually a much healthier one?

Yeah, I get this. I apperciate the Undertaker and all, but He's never been the guy Ive tuned in to see or bought tickets to see. Ive never been mad he was there, but It didnt make or break a show to me.

Ol Dirty Dastard 11-29-2017 11:40 AM

Wish i wasnt lazy but Billy Corgan was on Rogans podcast and he spoke about a brand being more than the dollars it can make at a given point in time but more about how enduring it is. And he was talking about music not wrestling. Still think it could ring true with both taker and the wwe.

TSI 11-29-2017 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Dastardly Dale Newstead (Post 5050607)
Wish i wasnt lazy but Billy Corgan was on Rogans podcast and he spoke about a brand being more than the dollars it can make at a given point in time but more about how enduring it is. And he was talking about music not wrestling. Still think it could ring true with both taker and the wwe.

It was a good podcast. He sounds like he knows what hes doing. I agree with what your saying, but I dont think It applies anymore for Taker. Hes Brand Will take more of a hit at this point by keep wrestling, especially since 1, He doesnt have anything to prove at this point. His Legacy is what it is. and 2, Theres no way he can match expectations with his body fucked off like it is.

Ol Dirty Dastard 11-29-2017 12:10 PM

I meant more about his previous accomplishments as opposed to now. He needs to stay out of the ring.


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