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xrodmuc316 02-02-2020 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Ultra Mantis (Post 5318721)
Does it impact your enjoyment of a match knowing how much a wrestler is getting paid? Are the guys on the biggest contracts the only ones you want to watch? Is alleged 700k a year Riddick Moss better than Tomohiro Ishii by any logic?
NOOOOOOO! The point was how is best defined. It was a nonsense response to prove that it is hard narrow it down because what constitutes best. IF, and it's a BIG IF, but IF one were to make the argument that highest paid equals the best, that would mean Brock Lesnar.

Mr. Nerfect 02-02-2020 10:25 PM
Being paid can be an indicator, if not necessarily the best or most accurate one, of someone's worth. Brock isn't getting paid $12 million because he sucks.

Jordan 02-03-2020 09:32 AM
I would say Okada in a landslide. Others worth talking about are Ospeay, Naito, Jericho & Omega.

Ol Dirty Dastard 02-04-2020 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Destor (Post 5318705)
Being better isnt judged by how much you make. Its how much people spend on you. Thats how you know youre over.
IMO this is a far better metric the XRods.

xrodmuc316 02-04-2020 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by The Dastardly One (Post 5319113)
IMO this is a far better metric the XRods.
SMH

Supreme Olajuwon 02-04-2020 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by xrodmuc316 (Post 5319143)
SMH
Ah yes, Stephanie McMahon Helmsley. By your metric of who makes the most money, Stephanie would probably be considered the best wrestler in the world.

But there is a separate thread for female wrestlers so you probably should’ve posted this in there.

Fignuts 02-04-2020 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by The Dastardly One (Post 5319113)
IMO this is a far better metric the XRods.
https://i.imgur.com/oEKAHzn.png

Verbose Minch 02-04-2020 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Seph (Post 5318718)
How many tickets and how much merch is Brock moving? Because ticket sales are dwindling, network numbers are dwindling, RAW has the weaker ratings of the 2 big shows, and the last numbers I could find don't have Brock cracking the top 20 (couldn't find a list showing past 20) in WWE merchandise sales.
Brock doesn't appear week to week, I don't think it's fair to pin ratings on him. Same with merch given his stuff sucks shit.

Shouldn't Lynch and Rollins be to blame? They're supposed to be the leaders

Sepholio 02-04-2020 06:36 PM
Oh, they are all to blame, but people always give credit to the champ/"top draw" when the ratings/sales are doing good so they deserve just as much credit when everything is tanking.

And tbf basically all WWE merch sucks shit.

Bad News Gertner 02-04-2020 06:39 PM
The brand draws , not the individual wrestler.

Verbose Minch 02-04-2020 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Seph (Post 5319203)
Oh, they are all to blame, but people always give credit to the champ/"top draw" when the ratings/sales are doing good so they deserve just as much credit when everything is tanking.

And tbf basically all WWE merch sucks shit.
Okay fair, just wanted to clarify

99% of it does, yeah. That Lynch one with the Japanese shit on it is probably the only one I'd buy, island) and I don't even like her

Sepholio 02-04-2020 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Iceman King Gertner (Post 5319204)
The brand draws , not the individual wrestler.
Since when do we not talk about the drawing power of individual wrestlers?

Sepholio 02-04-2020 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Verbose Minch (Post 5319248)
Okay fair, just wanted to clarify

99% of it does, yeah. That Lynch one with the Japanese shit on it is probably the only one I'd buy, island) and I don't even like her
I haven't gotten any WWE merch in years. The last one I probably bought was a football jersey style Tazz shirt nearly 20 years ago. I do have a couple bad ass AEW shirts though because they have a few decent ones to choose from.

Seanny One Ball 02-04-2020 09:27 PM
I had a Smackdown Hotel shirt that my mum got me for doing well at school. Also that sweet Aggression album.

Sepholio 02-04-2020 09:45 PM
Yea those old WWE albums were the boobs

Seanny One Ball 02-04-2020 10:04 PM
I remember that fucknut from the Wrestling With Regret YouTube channel slagged that Aggression album off big time and I got pretty pissed off.
Then he dissed Corny and I unsubscribed.

What a jabroni.

Sepholio 02-05-2020 03:50 AM
I miss WWE having awesome mixes done by real bands for entrance music. Like when Finger Eleven did Slow Chemical for Kane. And the Our Lady Peace theme for Benoit was incredible.

Seanny One Ball 02-05-2020 04:02 AM
Just found out that Kurt Angle's theme came from The Patriot originally.
I like it when I watch old matches and notice stuff like that. Val Venis and Rick Martell shared one too.

Mr. Nerfect 02-05-2020 05:37 AM
Shawn Stasiak is only 50 this year. Still a chance for him to become the second youngest AEW World Champion ever.

Supreme Olajuwon 02-05-2020 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Seanny One Ball (Post 5319312)
Just found out that Kurt Angle's theme came from The Patriot originally.
I like it when I watch old matches and notice stuff like that. Val Venis and Rick Martell shared one too.
I remember a cavalcade of jobbers in WCW using what eventually became Goldberg’s music.

Seanny One Ball 02-05-2020 11:38 AM
Jobbers that he then squashed in 30 seconds while their old/his new music played.


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