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RP 10-09-2020 09:12 PM

Somebody is gonna be sucking Lars Sullivan's dick. That's for sure!

Emperor Smeat 10-09-2020 09:12 PM

:| at the SD Women's title match ending via DQ.

The amount of DQs and no contests done by WWE this year has to be a new record for a single year by now.

They've gotten creatively bankrupt when it comes to the amount of times they've failed to deliver a real ending to their big matches on TV. Even NXT is slowly starting to get into that bad habit. Almost no reason to be invested in their big matches anymore when they fail most of the time to deliver with them.

slik 10-09-2020 09:13 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Fiend is in <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SmackDown?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SmackDown</a> but hasn’t ever competed on <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SmackDown?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SmackDown</a> ?</p>&mdash; DavKind (@DavKind76) <a href="https://twitter.com/DavKind76/status/1314735372379852803?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 10, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

xrodmuc316 10-09-2020 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5380396)
Murphy needs to stay the fuck away from Seth. He’s not dynamic enough for that sort of spot. He can be a body somewhere, but he needs some life. He’d be a great fit for NXT.

Murphy is Kenny Omega without the goofy faces.

Emperor Smeat 10-09-2020 09:28 PM

SD tag title match was pretty good even if WWE ended up giving away the result by having New Day make their surprise return as a group and challenge for the belts.

:lol: at SD losing their tag champs now.

Evil Vito 10-09-2020 09:30 PM

Well there’s New Day split up, but not really because Woods and Kofi clearly are gonna have to be around to defend/drop the SmackDown belts.

xrodmuc316 10-09-2020 09:31 PM

So whoever is running Raw is a fucking idiot, let's just NOT draft Big E even though he would come with Kofi and Woods, cause that makes any fucking sense...

Emperor Smeat 10-09-2020 09:31 PM

RAW legit picked more of their own guys than they did with SD guys for tonight's Draft show.

Even with their infamous history of bad drafting, the NY Jets and Cleveland Browns would have done a better job with WWE's Draft than team Red Brand did tonight.

slik 10-09-2020 09:31 PM

Damn at breaking up New Day

Triple A 10-09-2020 09:32 PM

breaking up Heavy Machinery also

Evil Vito 10-09-2020 09:35 PM

Be funny if the Street Profits get drafted to SmackDown now and they and New Day just casually trade belts.

xrodmuc316 10-09-2020 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5380406)
RAW legit picked more of their own guys than they did with SD guys for tonight's Draft show.

Even with their infamous history of bad drafting, the NY Jets and Cleveland Browns would have done a better job with WWE's Draft than team Red Brand did tonight.

This is exactly why WWE is so bad, is there nobody in that writing room that asked "why are we having a draft if most people are going to stay on the same show"?

Or "why wouldn't Raw also want Big E if they are drafting New Day"?

Just go back to the fucking tumblers with the draft picks being "random". Yes they aren't really random, but at least it gives them a logical out as to why only Otis got drafted to Smackdown and not Tucker.

Emperor Smeat 10-09-2020 09:37 PM

Not sure Otis knows how a lawsuit or courts actually work.

Poor fellow, he's probably losing his MitB contract and that sweet looking MitB lunchbox very soon.

Evil Vito 10-09-2020 09:41 PM

“We at Fox want to keep Otis”

”What about Tucker, they can be drafted together”

”Nah, fuck Tucker”

There’s really no logic to any of this. Still not as bad as Alexa and Nikki being drafted to the same show in separate picks last year.

xrodmuc316 10-09-2020 09:43 PM

Undrafted

Dana Brooke (could have been picked with Mandy)
Humberto Carrillo
Drew Gulak
Tucker (could have been drafted with Otis)
Mickie James
Lucha House Party (Kalisto, Gran Metalik and Lince Dorado)
Murphy
Shorty G

They should all ask for their release since WWE thinks so little of them.

xrodmuc316 10-09-2020 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Conspiracy Victim Vito (Post 5380414)
“We at Fox want to keep Otis”

”What about Tucker, they can be drafted together”

”Nah, fuck Tucker”

There’s really no logic to any of this. Still not as bad as Alexa and Nikki being drafted to the same show in separate picks last year.

LOL that was bad.

Still the worst ever was Raw drafting Strowman, but not the other 3 Wyatt members, because why would you want to get 4 for 1 when you can just get 1?

slik 10-09-2020 09:46 PM

So the people changing brands are:

TO SD:
Seth Rollins
Bianca Belair
Rey Mysterio
Dominik Mysterio

To RAW:
Miz & Morrison
Xavier & Kofi
AJ Styles
Naomi

slik 10-09-2020 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xrodmuc316 (Post 5380415)
Undrafted

Dana Brooke

Dana was drafted to RAW in the final batch tonight

Emperor Smeat 10-09-2020 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Conspiracy Victim Vito (Post 5380414)
“We at Fox want to keep Otis”

”What about Tucker, they can be drafted together”

”Nah, fuck Tucker”

There’s really no logic to any of this. Still not as bad as Alexa and Nikki being drafted to the same show in separate picks last year.

Yeah they really need to do some serious tweaks for the next draft since the current format is way too comical than it should be.

Like do a sports expansion style draft where each brand can protect just a few guys but everyone else is fair game and not allow the ability to pick people from their own brand. Add in NXT and 205 Live to deepen the draft pool and undrafted people staying on their brands and you get two nights of shows full of big surprises and brands with actual big shakeups done.

Could even do some draft and post-draft trades so its not mostly just the same people on a brand but now on a different show.

slik 10-09-2020 09:56 PM

KO doing what he can to carry Bray in this match

slik 10-09-2020 09:59 PM

I know he has a good entrance and good promos but I'm sorry, Bray just no-selling everything everyone does to him is not interesting.

Emperor Smeat 10-09-2020 10:03 PM

Fiend vs. Owens was pretty good.

This week's Draft episode was also pretty good overall. RAW being as bad as last year's Draft at drafting was worth a bunch of laughs.

Only real sour points was the SD Women's title match and most of the actual Draft picks being duds in terms of real interest and lack of big surprises. New Day splitting up was the only real surprise from the picks made tonight.

xrodmuc316 10-09-2020 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5380418)
Dana was drafted to RAW in the final batch tonight

Must have been too annoyed by the drafting of 2/3rds of New Day to have heard that.

slik 10-09-2020 10:05 PM

List of people who've been able to get good matches out of Bray Wyatt so far:

Daniel Bryan

Emperor Smeat 10-09-2020 10:19 PM

Even though its not really comparable, I'd add Cena to that list only because of how good their Firefly Fun House cinematic match was at Mania 36.

Pre-FF match I wouldn't add Cena since those matches he had against Bray were either bad or huge momentum killers for Bray.

Vastardikai 10-09-2020 10:22 PM

I guess Apollo will finally be joining the New Day.

Vastardikai 10-09-2020 10:25 PM

This is from over 3 years ago, btw.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vastardikai (Post 4952361)
I would do an out of the box one: Apollo Crews to Raw for Big E.

New Day cat upset at first like "You are trading all of us for just one guy?"

Angle replies "No. Just Big E. Apollo is a good kid. He has a lot of integrity. And he has the intensity and intelligence to be the next big star on Monday Night Raw."

In essence, the next few weeks write themselves as the remaining New Day act as though Crews was traded to them. They try to get him to loosen up and show some personality.

Big E, on the other hand, starts off feuding with Creepy McWolfshirt as they start the slow build towards him becoming the next #2 or #3 guy (behind Reigns and likely Cass.) and maybe even the top guy on Smackdown once Cena a nd Orton retire.


Black Widow 10-09-2020 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5380407)
Damn at breaking up New Day

Great.

Glad i was actually watching to see it happen.:rofl:

slik 10-09-2020 11:00 PM

https://i.postimg.cc/Vkt2k0KJ/xg5Ys9ez.jpg

GD 10-10-2020 12:56 AM

Remember when Bobby Lashley was drafted to RAW and he had to relinquish the ECW Championship because it was brand exclusive?

XL 10-10-2020 02:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vastardikai (Post 5380431)
This is from over 3 years ago, btw.

I swapped Big E for Apollo on one of the WWE games a few years back. Def gonna happen.

Mr. Nerfect 10-10-2020 04:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5380399)
:| at the SD Women's title match ending via DQ.

The amount of DQs and no contests done by WWE this year has to be a new record for a single year by now.

They've gotten creatively bankrupt when it comes to the amount of times they've failed to deliver a real ending to their big matches on TV. Even NXT is slowly starting to get into that bad habit. Almost no reason to be invested in their big matches anymore when they fail most of the time to deliver with them.

:roll:

DQ is a perfectly valid finish. Using it too much is a problem, but not ever using it is too. Way too many people on the internet feel like they're just waiting to complain about "non-finishes."

Mr. Nerfect 10-10-2020 04:27 AM

Was pretty easy to call Big E and Kofi & Woods being split up. Thought it would be Big E drafted away from them though.

Emperor Smeat 10-10-2020 04:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5380478)
:roll:

DQ is a perfectly valid finish. Using it too much is a problem, but not ever using it is too. Way too many people on the internet feel like they're just waiting to complain about "non-finishes."

WWE goes way overboard with that and no contests for finishes these days.

Bayley's last 2 high profile title matches both ended via DQ finish and WWE does several non-finishes to their matches almost weekly.

Maybe if you actually watched these shows regularly, you'd understand why this has become very tiring to constantly watch happen in WWE.

Evil Vito 10-10-2020 11:15 AM

Talking Smack draft:

-Humberto Carrillo remains on Raw
-Murphy moves to SD
-Drew Gulak moves to Raw
-Kalisto remains on SD (but the rest of Lucha House Party went undrafted)
-Tucker moves to Raw, Heavy Machinery is officially split up

slik 10-10-2020 12:53 PM

RIP Heavy Machinery

Droford 10-10-2020 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vastardikai (Post 5380429)
I guess Apollo will finally be joining the New Day.

we'll get 3 months of new day and Apollo vs the hurt business before he shockingly turns on em

Droford 10-10-2020 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xrodmuc316 (Post 5380383)
LOL why the fuck would Raw draft Ricochet in the 3rd round when they never use him lol

Needed someone for hurt business to bully after Retribution dies off

XL 10-11-2020 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5380478)
:roll:

DQ is a perfectly valid finish. Using it too much is a problem, but not ever using it is too. Way too many people on the internet feel like they're just waiting to complain about "non-finishes."

WWE use it in an attempt to drum up interest in a match with a conclusive ending but it doesn’t work when they do it repeatedly, and they do it at the end of a 15-20 minute match. By that point we’ve seen the match in full sans the ending so I have no interest in seeing the match even with an actual conclusion.

Example: Orton v Keith Lee

XL 10-11-2020 04:35 PM

I’m not really a fan of the full draft concept. It forces the brands to re draft their own guys and that is always going to feel lacklustre. The way they’ve handled it this time might be the worst effort ever. Splitting tags that could have been drafted together, moving all components of a never-ending storyline over to the other brand, meh. The whole point is to create new, interesting match ups not move a storyline wholesale to another show. My interest in Seth on SD went through the floor knowing that the Murphy/Mysterios storyline is just going to continue.


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