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Seanny One Ball 05-15-2023 03:35 AM

Tom should be the one but he’s a climber. His story is already Shakespearean.

Seanny One Ball 05-15-2023 03:56 AM

That was great.

I love the real-time stuff. It felt like an Aaron Sorkin piece but with better dialogue. Some of the best writing ever.

Seanny One Ball 05-15-2023 04:01 AM

Siobhan still cares. That’s where her flaw is. She actually gives a fuck about America.

Seanny One Ball 05-15-2023 04:02 AM

One of the best ever episodes. Acting was so strong it felt real. Beautiful.

Ol Dirty Dastard 05-15-2023 07:21 AM

Yea to call that anything less than an unmitigated triumph would be a crime against good taste.

Once more, not cheap surprises. Everyone stayed true to who they were. Yet, it was no less fucking bonkers.

Ol Dirty Dastard 05-15-2023 07:24 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">When your sister pisses you off and you decide to destroy democracy <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SuccessionHBO?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SuccessionHBO</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Succession?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Succession</a> <a href="https://t.co/diqUhknOvP">pic.twitter.com/diqUhknOvP</a></p>&mdash; Ross Keith (@r_keith_) <a href="https://twitter.com/r_keith_/status/1657958177772650496?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 15, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Seanny One Ball 05-15-2023 07:27 AM

When you make big decisions you need a guy called Greg to Coke you up.

Ol Dirty Dastard 05-15-2023 07:34 AM

Just be careful tho cuz you may get wasabi in your eye.

Ol Dirty Dastard 05-15-2023 08:07 AM

chased with mildly lemon-flavored Le Croix

Seanny One Ball 05-15-2023 08:31 AM

That particular scene brought it home for me. Rich people suck.

Ol Dirty Dastard 05-15-2023 09:10 AM

lol the preview for next week feels like the climax of Roman's villain origin story.

Ol Dirty Dastard 05-15-2023 09:10 AM

Kieran Culkin has been on fire all season.

Triple A 05-15-2023 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seanny One Ball (Post 5614567)
Siobhan still cares. That’s where her flaw is. She actually gives a fuck about America.

She always seemed like the most evil/selfish of all the siblings to me... Others are also evil but seem to have more "feelings" sometimes and don't seem as sociopathic...

Ol Dirty Dastard 05-15-2023 05:56 PM

Their mother is the real villain

Ol Dirty Dastard 05-15-2023 05:56 PM

Queen of the harpies

Seanny One Ball 05-19-2023 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triple A (Post 5614635)
She always seemed like the most evil/selfish of all the siblings to me... Others are also evil but seem to have more "feelings" sometimes and don't seem as sociopathic...

Her and Kendall are the most actively self destructive in terms of their business dealings when they should know better given the coaching they have had, but that’s probably because nobody respects Roman enough to take him seriously due to his caustic personality.
Shiv definitely cares more about the status quo than her brothers, Kendall is out there trying to build things up only to flip the script on a whim every single time he gets close to it.
Part of me rates Roman as secretly “most like his dad” as a businessman due to his willingness to embrace any outcome that favours their position but Shiv definitely wants to be seen that way the most.

All three are seriously fucked up in terms of creating their own obstacles. I think that’s why I like Tom and Greg so much. They are dilettantes in the Amorality game compared to the Roys.

Ol Dirty Dastard 05-19-2023 11:42 AM

Roman's machinations last episodes reflected his dad more than anything his siblings have ever done. So did firing Joy and Jerry in a fit of rage. Obviously, Logan would typically have been more strategic about the firings but if it was a situation where his ire was raised to the degree of Roman's, he'd have shitcanned both on the spot. And, of course, Roman hasn't earned the power and respect of his father, so he seems like much more of a spoiled punk just going around and firing people at the drop of a hat.

Romulus's fatal flaw will prove to be his perversions--which seem to be a result of Logan's physical and psychological abuse. Really, Logan's callous child-rearing techniques and his big, big shoes cultivated all the flaws holding back his children.

Seanny One Ball 05-19-2023 12:57 PM

Logan Roy dying off-screen was so good… I couldn’t figure it out at the time but now I see it as “He’s out of the way now” combined with “We can’t ever seem to get close to him”.
That was well played anyway, it dropped all four siblings right back into their natural positions, even Connor.

Ol Dirty Dastard 05-22-2023 12:13 AM

Big Jimmy Cromwell. What a beauty.

Ol Dirty Dastard 05-22-2023 08:20 AM

"Those were some good hard takes."

Ol Dirty Dastard 05-22-2023 11:06 AM

Baby Ro Ro still has it what it takes to be a good CEO but he was always destined to go down in flames in this scenario.

Ol Dirty Dastard 05-22-2023 11:07 AM

Especially when Ewan already lit the fire. Fucking impossible for someone as green as Roman to follow.

Ol Dirty Dastard 05-25-2023 04:07 PM

Catfood Ozymandeus.

Seanny One Ball 05-26-2023 06:20 PM

I think the line was “She was my Kerry” or something to that effect… classic classic shit man. That actress playing Kerry does “emotionally unstable” brilliantly. I actually almost felt bad.

Succession is going to end in disaster for the Roys, a disaster that earns or costs them hundreds of millions but takes their egos for everything.

Kieran Culkin was fucking incredible in that episode. That really was the best of the acting, Strong just nailed his delivery so well that it might overshadow it despite not being as excellent. Culkin threw me there, that is also down to some top class writing and direct though. The whole concept of this show should be applauded for how freshly it approaches a tired subject.

Ol Dirty Dastard 05-26-2023 07:27 PM

Most subjects are tired. All that's left is fresh approaches, and the writers of the show have those in spades.

Culkin channeling that level of grief through his physical and verbal acting was really something. The way he shrank and moaned was harrowing.

Seanny One Ball 05-28-2023 10:09 AM

Yeah, and him trending on Tik Tok afterwards was pretty freakin’ accurate

Ol Dirty Dastard 05-28-2023 11:09 AM

And also Roman would be the one laughing at someone who went viral on TikTok for the exact same thing. Yet I still feel terrible for him. Goddamn TV.

Seanny One Ball 05-28-2023 12:31 PM

L to the OG

Ol Dirty Dastard 05-28-2023 05:23 PM

The best part about L to the OG is Kendall’s earnestness. He is of the utmost belief that his rap about his weird abusive dad is hard as fuck. And that’s why I love Kendall.

Ol Dirty Dastard 05-29-2023 12:09 AM

I wouldn't have had it end any other way.

Seanny One Ball 05-29-2023 04:52 PM

That was a great ending, I was glad to see the siblings compulsion to self destruct came to its natural conclusion with a few surprises. The dialogue and scene setting was tremendous, made even more enjoyable with top form performances from everybody involved.

Succession has been another one of those amazing television series that ranks with the very finest.

I’m glad Tom won in the end. Tom is the best.

Seanny One Ball 05-29-2023 04:52 PM

Oh God he’s never going to sleep again…

Ol Dirty Dastard 05-29-2023 05:07 PM

As an engaged viewer who was having fun with different ideas for outcomes, I wanted Kendall to transform into a monster like his dad (but worse) and take over. I also knew any such prediction likely wouldn't come to fruition.

Regardless, the outcome was way better than any cute bullshit idea I had about Kendall. Wouldn't have been right for it to go any other way than what they did and I am happy they remained disciplined about sticking to the clear and present trajectory we were always on.


Also, I had a feeling when Tom worked during Logan's funeral (hearkening back to Kendall NOT working during Logan's Bday in the first ep) combined with Shiv selling Mattsen on a puppet CEO that he'd made the case for himself.

This show is def an all-timer for me.

Ol Dirty Dastard 05-29-2023 07:14 PM

Me and my buddy always call Kendall, Biff Loman

Seanny One Ball 05-30-2023 11:01 AM

If there’s one reason not to have glass walls in your office - it’s that finale.

Ol Dirty Dastard 05-30-2023 11:24 AM

lol I loved how they were the kids screeching outside of dad's office to get his attention. But daddy wasn't there to come out and yell "silence!"

Seanny One Ball 05-30-2023 04:28 PM

I feel very satisfied with it. I’m also glad I gave it a second chance, I watched most of it in the last year after I tried it and decided it was too dry.

It is definitely not too dry.

Ol Dirty Dastard 05-30-2023 05:06 PM

Yeah I'm glad I was in the headspace to enjoy it. I'm not always that lucky for shows like this.

Ol Dirty Dastard 05-31-2023 10:15 AM

Cunt is as cunt does.

Seanny One Ball 05-31-2023 01:45 PM

I’M THE ELDEST BOY


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