WELL FUCKING SAID

I don't think that pass was a catch, personally.

There were a couple calls that were missed for both sides.

<TABLE class=yspwhitebg cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=ysptblthbody1 align=right><TD class=yspdetailttl align=left height=18>Texas</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>Comp</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>Att</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>Yds</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>Pct</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>Y/A</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>Sack</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>YdsL</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>TD</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>Int </TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1 align=right><TD align=left> V. Young</TD><TD>30</TD><TD>40</TD><TD>267</TD><TD>75.0</TD><TD>6.7</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>0</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
<TABLE class=yspwhitebg cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=ysptblthbody1 align=right><TD class=yspdetailttl align=left height=18>Texas</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>Rush</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>Yds</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>Avg</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>Lng</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>TD</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>FumL </TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1 align=right><TD align=left> V. Young</TD><TD>20</TD><TD>200</TD><TD>10.0</TD><TD>45</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>0 </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

So lets see 467 yards by himself.
3 TD's
No interceptions or fumbles.



Heisman recount please

I'LL TRADE MANNING FOR YOUNG OMGOZERS!

My gf is a UT alumna. She's going fucking nuts right now. She'll be making and getting phone calls all night.

Yup I think the sig title is being changed

I am not a college football fanatic..i dont even like Texas like that. But they made me a fan tonight, especially that dude Young. Vince Young. WILL be on ESPN classic friday. :y:

Sacrafice your girlfriend to Vincent Young's penis. If not for Vince do it for your country.

Yea... other than the (loser) Gophers, I tend to shy away from college football. But ditto... I'm a fan now. Especially of mister Young.

I want his babies. :drool:

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

I :love: You

Game is being reshown on ESPN Classic at 7pm Sat night.


yeah I think I'm gonna DVR it :love:

a 16-10 game at the half became one of the (if not the) greatest shootouts in NCAA history.

They already have a set time for it? That's fucking awesome.

I thought the game would become a shootout. I said to my dad at halftime that during the first half they were probably feeling out the defensive schemes of each other and in the second half would adjust and come out slinging.

Jesus. I can't wait for the UT OSU rematch next year if Young comes back. omgomgomgomgomgomgomgomg

Posted this in another forum, but since only like nobody here visits there, I don't think it'll be a problem.









I've had about an hour and a half to collect my thoughts... mostly because I was at a friend's house for a viewing party and then had to drive home and take a shower.

So here goes.

It was a great game that lived up to the hype. Except for the end. But that's because I'm a Trojan.

There are a lot of ways I can respond. No doubt, we will have Trojans playing the "what if" game. What if Bush hadn't tried that foolish lateral? What if that Vince Young lateral had actually been called down like it really was? What if that Texas fumble that wasn't called a fumble had been reviewed and the officials had awarded the ball back to USC like they should have? What White had made the extra foot? What if we had given the ball to Bush instead? What if we had punted instead? What if we had passed instead? What if we didn't have that idiotic facemask penalty when Texas had it at midfield and fourth down? What if we had stopped Young on 4th and 5? What if Leinart hadn't used up all 8 remaining seconds looking aimlessly then throwing to the sideline?

After a while you start stretching. And really, had the game gone the other way, Texas fans would have similar beefs. What if that pass Leinart threw where the Texas defender caught it in midair, then hit the ground, then lost it, had actually been ruled an interception like it actually was (ground cannot cause a fumble)? What if Texas hadn't missed the extra point? Or the field goal?

It goes both ways. Had Bush completed that lateral, he would have been hailed as a genius for thinking quickly on the fly. If White had completed the 4th and 2, Carroll would be hailed for being bold and going for it despite being near midfield. But we didn't make the plays. And don't forget, Texas had that fumble at the start of the game. They fumbled three or four more times afterwards.

What it call comes down to is defense. If you still don't believe defense wins championships, then this was your lesson 101. When the game was on the line, Texas' D came up big. Ours did not. They stopped White. We could not stop Young. Heck, you look at our whole game, and it was the defense that proved to be the weak link. Some horrendous missed coverages, and blown tackles galore. Texas had several plays that should have gone for only three or four yards, but ended up going for 20 or 30. We simply couldn't tackle.

And it didn't hurt that they had Vince Young, who was Leinart and Bush in one package tonight.

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It hurts. I was stunned. I really thought we could have won. Should have won. Would have won. And looking back, yeah, we could have and we should have. But we didn't. It hurts to say it, but Texas outplayed us. At the end of the day, I have no excuse but to say they outplayed us. They were the better team tonight. And congratulations for that.

I think it was ECC who, at the end of last year's NBA Finals, made the argument that Detroit was the better team despite losing. I headed a counterargument that said if you lose in the big game[s], then there's no excuse. Well, after tonight, I can kind of see his point of view a little better, but I honestly believe we SHOULD have won that game. I do feel that while both sides got some questionable calls, Texas benefitted more. And the NBA analogy uses a seven game series, while tonight was only one game. It's much more convincing to win four games out of seven than to win one. Maybe it's a sense of denial. But as a die-hard Trojan fan and a die-hard Trojan student, I really thought we would win... even at the end, with 19 seconds left.

It ain't over till it's over, or till the fat lady sings.

But then it was over, and just like that, the streaks were gone. 34 games, now history, as is the AP #1 ranking streak and a slew of others.

But you know what? The immature fan will make the excuses and the blame game. As easy as it would be to use all those excuses I pointed out above to say we got "screwed" or "they got lucky" or whatever, the fact remains that they came back from a 12 point deficit and won the big game on the big night.

So to put it plainly: we got beat. So a begrudging tip of the cap to Texas for winning the 2005-06 NCAA Football National championship.

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Next year is a "rebuilding" year for 'SC. Leinart is gone. Bush and White are most likely gone. We lose a good part of our offensive line in all likelihood, so our offense will be raw. I don't know if we can quickly get back to the absolute elite next year. It will probably take another year, although the last time we were in this situation, a guy named Matt Leinart stepped up and began one of the greatest college careers in history.

Texas, on the other hand, now assumes the mantle that 'SC has ridden for three years. Vince Young, in all likelihood, is coming back (unless he really turns his back on his school; he's already said he'll be back, though not officially). Their offense AND defense returns intact. And next year, they will get the media title of "greatest team ever." As an 'SC fan, my personal solace might be in taking joy in watching Texas possibly falter. Hopefully, now that the pressure and historic labels go to them, the'll be the ones to lose in the big one, so they can experience the pain we Trojans are going through right now.

The media's fickle. Three hours ago, it was Reggie Bush this and that, and Vince was the up and comer. Now... who's Reggie Bush? It's all Vince Young. And suddenly, Vince is the guy who should leave now, be #1 in the draft, and the Trojans are suddenly forgotten. Texas is in the limelight now.

Texas has won 20 in a row. If they make it back to the big dance next year, they'll have won 32 or 33 in a row. Something about a 30something game winning streak on the line at the national championship game that hasn't been great for teams... just ask Miami.

But you know what? Texas earned it tonight. As much as I do not want to say it (particularly because Texas the state absolutely sucks), Texas is king. But now the pressure's all on you. Lets see how you handle it, and lets see if you can accomplish what we did.

And maybe in a couple of years, we'll be back.

FIGHT ON! <!--IBF.ATTACHMENT_245783-->




And a couple of notes:

- I'll be gracious if you're gracious. If you're a Longhorn and try to rub it in my face arrogantly, acting like you annihilated us, then you'll receively equally harsh treatment. I've got arguments piled up like crazy.

- Right now, my national title game prediction is indeed Texas vs Ohio State. Penn State will be good next year and could knock OSU from the top of the Big 10, but we'll see. Right now, that's my call.

- Maybe this persuades either Bush or Lendale to stay? It'd sure help out Booty next year. <!--emo&:D-->:D<!--endemo-->

- If Texas was in any other state besides Texas, I wouldn't be so incredibly pissed. <!--emo&:p-->:p

well said cork. :y:

It was pretty evident that your coach lost all faith in his defense when he chose to go for 4th and 2 at midfield instead of pinning the Longhorns inside the 20 with a minute and half left. Leinart all but actully said that his defense sucked, if you watch the interviews afterward.

I hate Texas as a state but I like UT for some reason maybe just Vince Young

or the beatdown they put on CU woooo

Seriously... the state of Texas sucks. Still. :p

I don't blame Carroll for going for it on 4th and 2. I would have made the same call. Our defense wasn't getting it done. Even if we had punted, I think Vince would have marched the team 80 or 90 yards down. It wasn't a matter of if they could score in the 4th, but when. I even remarked at the 1:03 mark that I'd prefer them to score now rather than later, if that was the case, so we get more time leftover.

The only "questioning" is whether it should have gone to White up the middle. Normally, that's the obvious choice, except everyone and his mother was expecting that because it was obvious... because White is your moneymaker in these situations.

That was the game right there IMO. I called it with my friends. You could just feel it.

So yeah. *sigh* :( This is gonna take a few days to rub off. Good thing I'm at home so I don't have to listen to ESPN suck Vince Young's penis.

So, like 5mins left, USC up 12, I couldn't do it... closed my eyes for a moment and bingo... right to sleep... I missed the end... woke up and saw Texas celebrating and I'm like WTF?

good for them.

I want Vince Young.

Joey Slugs is an idiot..

You know the Swishahouse crew is lovin this shit

What the hell did I do?

Well, one thing is you claimed USC was gonna dominate, then after you were proved wrong, you've proceded to ride Vince Youngs testicals harder than his Rose Bowl jock strap..

You annoyed me..

Oh. boo hoo. I'm sssssssssoooooooooo sorry. Asshole.

I think 80% of people watching thought USC was going to win big. And it's not like they proved me wrong like this was some sort of trivia question.

I do believe I said "I'm guessing USC will win by..."

Like I said, my gf is a UT grad and I was pulling for them to win, even though I did think before the game that it would be a blowout.

You act like no one can ever be amazing by a game that they "predicted" wrong.

Fuck off.

Not really the score you predicted that bothers me, more of the

So you were pulling for a team, but saying the other was gonna dominate, only to be "amazed" by the preformance of the team you were secretly pulling for?? All the while saying it wasn't gonna be a good game??

Cause that's how you're coming off..

lol Who cares? I don't think he was like "USC WILL KILL TEXAS WATCH!!!! I LOVE USC"

I think he was just saying he thought USC was going dominate, then they didn't and that he was really impressed by Young.

Why can't people change their opinions? I don't understand why people need to be extremely stubborn when it comes to sports, he made a prediction and was wrong. Now he is giving praise to the game and a player.

I also made a prediction and was wrong (about the kicking game)..

I just find it funny that he never mentioned pulling for Texas until the game was over..

Refs get it right, USC wins. I'm not bitter, really doesn't matter to me, it's nice to see Carrol win, but I'm not a "fan".

That being said, the refs blew a bunch of calls.

I don't see how the refs cost USC the game. The only thing they screwed up on was that one call with Vince's knee being down other than that I really don't see what else happened? I saw another missed call where a Texas played picked it off and had control but dropped it when his back hit the ground, so USC should have lost the ball there but didn't. The calls went both ways, saying Texas only won becuase of calls in their favor is hilarious.

Refs had nothing to do with Vince Young rushing for a 12 yard TD on 4th and 5 with 30 seconds left..that's what cost USC the game.

Stima, chill... I'm not saying Texas got all the calls, but simple math, that TD should have been called back, maybe they would have scored, maybe not, maybe 30seconds more off the clock, maybe 2-3mins? You don't know, but plain and simple that TD shouldn't have been a TD.

Another one was the fumble by Bush, if you watch it was actually a fwd lateral, so it should have been dead, not a fumble. USC would have kept the ball, again, maybe they score, maybe they don't, but would have been more time off the clock.

The Refs (both ways) just seemed to have their heads up their ass.

There were several times this NFL season where the refs cost the Saints games.. Some examples:

-Rams taking the ball from Ernie Conwell and running it back in the final minutes, while Conwell was ON HIS F'N back holding up the ball to show the reception

-Falcon defender clearly going off the back of his line to block a game winning field goal

There are others.. Thing is, if a team plays better the whole game it's shouldn't come down to one call..

How can it be considered a foward laterall when the other team recorded it? If a QB is over the line of scrimmage and throws a INT, he's still an INT isn't it? It's also debatable wether or not that ball went foward or not.

And I don't need to "chill" I think it's dumb how you say USC would win if the calls where right in your first post, then your 2nd post is full of "Ifs"

IF that INT got called right, Texas would have had the ball and would have stopped USC from scoring, Texas could have scored again IF that call was right. IF Texas had the ball more time could have come off the clock too. I'm not flipping out here, it's just hilarious how 2 calls that went Texas's way automaticlly gave them the win, USC got calls too. Texas basically handed USC this game in the 1st quater and they couldn't do anything with it too. USC did not deserve to win.

He never said he was pulling for USC either though. Maybe he wasn't a fan of either and just got into the game while watching it? I don't see what the big deal is anyways, so he's not a huge Texas fan - he's not allowed to root for one of the two teams in the National Championship? You are kinda making something out of nothing here IMO

I'm pretty sure it isn't, if the QB crosses the line and throw the ball, it's a "forward laterall" and the play is dead.

There's a difference between fumbling and have it go fwd and a laterall or throwing motion.

Plain and simple the Refs sucked last night, not just for USC that is true. You'd just like to see better calls in a big game.

Krispy, I agree there are some NFL crews that are horrible, at least they allow challenges, although someone had a good point the other day, why limit the challenges, still have a penalty so someone doesn't abuse it as a time-out, but if a ref blows 5 calls, shouldn't they be able to correct all 5?

I dunno, I was always an anti-replay person, allow the "humaness" of the game... but now, is it right to decide a game or even a championship on a bad call? dunno...

I think Krispy is still pissed about USC beating out LSU for the title.

Krispy. I WAS pulling for UT (I just thought SC would win), that's the reason for my "Holy Shit" comment towards the end of the game. Just because I didn't say I was 4 months ago means it's all bullshit? If I was in any way rooting on SC, don't you think I would bitched about the blown TD call and the fact that they should of punted on 4th down that late in the game?

Holy shit man, you need to get over yourself. Next time a big game like this comes around... I'll shoot you a PM just so you know who I'm rooting for.

BTW: I'm taking the Bears as NFC Champs. I'll be sure to remind you.


:y: for stima's back-up while I was gone.

It's actually pretty well documented that I hate LSU.. Yes, I am a SEC fan, so I'll pull for them outside the SEC but have a deep hatred for them when play any other SEC team..