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Stickman 04-24-2006 01:01 AM

It's amazing that the price of oil is so high yet the top dogs of the oil companies are making billions of dollars. You'd think, after all these years, after all the advancement of technology that we wouldn't need oil anymore. But no, not the case. I'm not a big conspiracy thinking kind of guy, but this makes me wonder.

Xero 04-24-2006 01:06 AM

Wow, this is the most off topic we've ever been. Forget going from Bret Hart's carrer to Goldberg's streak, now we're going from almost watching TNA to talking about oil.

Kane Knight 04-24-2006 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Stickman
It's amazing that the price of oil is so high yet the top dogs of the oil companies are making billions of dollars. You'd think, after all these years, after all the advancement of technology that we wouldn't need oil anymore. But no, not the case. I'm not a big conspiracy thinking kind of guy, but this makes me wonder.

They've spent billions of dollars casting dispersions on alternative fuel sources (Including vegetable oil, which the original engine was designed to run on), so it's not really a conspiracy theory. It's pretty real. Hydrogen fuel was viable when I was in high school, but they're still casting dispersions on it.

The price of oil is so high, ironically, because of supply issues. I say ironic, because these supply issues are more or less illusory at this point. Gas was starting to go down and the executives were starting to lose money, so they started crying supply issues. This is what happens when you run a major resource with a cartel.

Stickman 04-24-2006 11:15 AM

Then you add in that Alaska has a shit load of oil, and throw in that in Alberta, there's supposedly enough oil for the world to run on for 20 years. Yeah, supply is scarce.

Kane Knight 04-24-2006 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Stickman
Then you add in that Alaska has a shit load of oil, and throw in that in Alberta, there's supposedly enough oil for the world to run on for 20 years. Yeah, supply is scarce.

Of course, our oil is more expensive to refine, but it's available.

Frankly, I hope the continued "supply scare" scares people right out of their SUVs and into hybrids and other vehicles not reliant on fossil fuels. Maybe if we get people off of oil, it'll be a little easier to not go over th e"tipping point" at which our climate's changes will be irreversible.

The One 04-24-2006 01:50 PM

When you guys talk about oil you see it in to narrow a light. Oil isn't just what makes our cars go, it's the foundation of the energy world. It's not a huge conspiracy to keep us dependent on oil, it's the fact that up til this point in time we havn't found a way to get the same or more power in a less harmful/easier way. Plus, the exchange between energy sources has historically been brutal. When we switched from firewood to coal and from coal to oil both times it was laced with more abusive laboring and *big shock* wealth for those who had the source of our energy. This time might be one of the smoothest transitions, if for no other reason then the Oil Industry desperatly wants to not use oil all the time. Do you know that BP (second largest oil company in the world behind Exxon Mobile) is the world's largest supplier of solar and wind power in the world.

Now I personally think anyone in an SUV or a needlessly big ass truck should be kicked in the nuts. I am not so sure I like Hybrid cars, they are a good idea, but irrnoically the polution that is created from the making of the car batterie (which needs replacing much more frequently) is actually WORSE then the polution it would have spewed being a regular car. It's a good idea, but it needs more tunning. As for this whole big bad "supply scare"; I think it's complete bullshit. There is a limited amount of oil on this planet, we are using 80 million barrels of oil every single day. A day. That's a lot of oil to be pumping out of the ground. Is it scary to see the end of oil in our sights? Yeah it is. It IS scary, but it isn't some corperate machine creating thay myth, it's a fact.

Oil isn't just what we run our cars off of, hell you could completely do away with cars and that would only effect a small portion of what we use oil for. And when I say small I am talking less then 10%. Look around the room your in...is a light on? Your computer is on. TV? Heater/AC? Clock? All of that is using oil. Bitch about oil prices all you want, the fact is the lack of oil is a much larger problem then just how expensive gas might get.

And if you think ANYONE is scared more then Oil execs, your dead wrong. Think of it this way, the world's largest Oil companies are doing more to find non-Oil sources of energy then any other company in the world. Trust me, when Oil runs dry, they run out of supply, then they got nothing. Which would blow our economy right out the window. If you added up how much money the NBA, NFL, NHL, MLB, every single golf course in the world, every single movie on this planet made this year, then multiplied it by 2...you STILL don't have how much money BP made last year alone, and they were even 1 billion dollars short from what they expected. That's a lot of money to suddenly NOT be floating around. That's a lot of money for Oil companies NOT to be getting. Oil Companies want more desperatly then any other organization on this planet to find a cheaper/easier/more effective/safer source of energy because if they do they can continue to hold on to the power and continue to gain the wealth of being the energy company.

Xero 04-24-2006 01:52 PM

Yeah, didn't watch TNA. No indeed. :shifty:

The One 04-24-2006 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Xero Limit 126
Yeah, didn't watch TNA. No indeed. :shifty:

No where near talking about TNA anymore...get with the times. ;)

Kane Knight 04-24-2006 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The One
When you guys talk about oil you see it in to narrow a light. Oil isn't just what makes our cars go, it's the foundation of the energy world. It's not a huge conspiracy to keep us dependent on oil, it's the fact that up til this point in time we havn't found a way to get the same or more power in a less harmful/easier way. Plus, the exchange between energy sources has historically been brutal. When we switched from firewood to coal and from coal to oil both times it was laced with more abusive laboring and *big shock* wealth for those who had the source of our energy. This time might be one of the smoothest transitions, if for no other reason then the Oil Industry desperatly wants to not use oil all the time. Do you know that BP (second largest oil company in the world behind Exxon Mobile) is the world's largest supplier of solar and wind power in the world.

Now I personally think anyone in an SUV or a needlessly big ass truck should be kicked in the nuts. I am not so sure I like Hybrid cars, they are a good idea, but irrnoically the polution that is created from the making of the car batterie (which needs replacing much more frequently) is actually WORSE then the polution it would have spewed being a regular car. It's a good idea, but it needs more tunning. As for this whole big bad "supply scare"; I think it's complete bullshit. There is a limited amount of oil on this planet, we are using 80 million barrels of oil every single day. A day. That's a lot of oil to be pumping out of the ground. Is it scary to see the end of oil in our sights? Yeah it is. It IS scary, but it isn't some corperate machine creating thay myth, it's a fact.

Oil isn't just what we run our cars off of, hell you could completely do away with cars and that would only effect a small portion of what we use oil for. And when I say small I am talking less then 10%. Look around the room your in...is a light on? Your computer is on. TV? Heater/AC? Clock? All of that is using oil. Bitch about oil prices all you want, the fact is the lack of oil is a much larger problem then just how expensive gas might get.

And if you think ANYONE is scared more then Oil execs, your dead wrong. Think of it this way, the world's largest Oil companies are doing more to find non-Oil sources of energy then any other company in the world. Trust me, when Oil runs dry, they run out of supply, then they got nothing. Which would blow our economy right out the window. If you added up how much money the NBA, NFL, NHL, MLB, every single golf course in the world, every single movie on this planet made this year, then multiplied it by 2...you STILL don't have how much money BP made last year alone, and they were even 1 billion dollars short from what they expected. That's a lot of money to suddenly NOT be floating around. That's a lot of money for Oil companies NOT to be getting. Oil Companies want more desperatly then any other organization on this planet to find a cheaper/easier/more effective/safer source of energy because if they do they can continue to hold on to the power and continue to gain the wealth of being the energy company.

I know you're taking the piss, but come on. :rofl:

The One 04-24-2006 01:59 PM

Actually I am dead serious.

Kane Knight 04-24-2006 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by The One
Actually I am dead serious.

Right. I believe you.

:rofl:

The One 04-24-2006 02:05 PM

If you want to think I am joking, you can. That is however what I believe, it is based off of facts. The energy business is something I take great interest in, and if you have counter thoughts, please share...but I swear I am being serious.

Kane Knight 04-24-2006 02:41 PM

:rofl:

Sorry, but when the oil lobbyists are pushing against energy reform, when there are viable fuel alternatives (And not just for the auto industry, but let's just assume that the "less than 10 %" was the only place we could cut oil right now...Wouldn't it be better than doing nothing? Oh wait, if we don't stop using oil all at once, then BAH GAWD NOTHING WILL HAPPEN! IT WON'T MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE AT ALL!!!!!!oneoneoneoneoneone), the fact that the oil industry has HIRED scientists to discredit alternative fuels sources...

Yeah. OMG. I'm gonna take you seriously, Stephen.


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