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Azriel 06-20-2006 10:41 PM

Did I miss something?

St. Jimmy 06-20-2006 10:41 PM

Test in ECW could be really good.

crash99 06-20-2006 10:42 PM

I think this should be a good match.

Azriel 06-20-2006 10:43 PM

What about Test? I was checking on the Yankees score

Boondock Saint 06-20-2006 10:45 PM

They had one of those Test is coming to ECW promo vids.

The Taker 06-20-2006 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by legend
No way is it possible to be as bad as it was last week.

wanna bet???

Azriel 06-20-2006 10:47 PM

Good match so far.

Azriel 06-20-2006 10:48 PM

I think Lita almost had a falling out there

Savio 06-20-2006 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Azriel
How come Heyman is never referenced as like the owner of ECW? He's always addresed as a spokesman. makes you wonder then, who is considered the owner of ECW?

Teddy Long; Holla Holla Holla!

Volchok 06-20-2006 10:49 PM

Damn I missed the Test promo video thingy.

McLegend 06-20-2006 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Taker
wanna bet???

It's not nearly as bad as last week

owenbrown 06-20-2006 10:55 PM

Excuse me, while I go throw up because this ECW is a shell of its former self because of shitty WWE bookers and Vince McMahon who cannot let Paul Heyman write it by himself. :nono: :rant: :mad: :foc: :wtf:

6to1 06-20-2006 10:57 PM

yea this is alot better then last week, kelly even had a little better story

Boondock Saint 06-20-2006 10:57 PM

Yeah I'd say tonight is a definite improvement. Nothing spectacular, but there was a better flow to it, it looked better, was more entertaining. Again not great but it was a step-up.

crash99 06-20-2006 10:59 PM

Looks like RVD's losing the belt on Sunday, as he has gotton the upper hand MOnday and now again tonight.

Azriel 06-20-2006 11:00 PM

That was a pretty sweet match indeed. not bad for 1 hour.

Azriel 06-20-2006 11:01 PM

Yeah, RVD is going to lose Sunday. that was pretty much a given and Edge will be another transitional champion.

loopydate 06-20-2006 11:02 PM

I love Taz and all, but I really don't like him as the color commentator. Makes the show feel way too much like SmackDown. Let Joey call it himself or bring in Gertner or Cyrus for color. Taz is too...restrained or something. He sounds like a WWE announcer, not an ECW announcer.

Just one of many things wrong witht he product, but that's the one that's bugging me at the moment.

And did Cena need to actually be there tonight? He was obviously going to get the squealing pop. Why not have the challenge made over the phone or something? Or why couldn't he make it on RAW? They seriously need to keep him off of ECW. Yes, he's been more entertaining lately, but every time he shows up on ECW, he reminds me that I'm not really watching ECW.

They've got a deep enough roster that's getting deeper with all the debuts/hype videos tonight (Test, Shelly, another vampire tease). I think they've got enough people now where they don't need the WWE rub.

Azriel 06-20-2006 11:02 PM

Anyway, TONS better than last week. Certainly got me hyped for Vengance. Goodnight everybody

Savio 06-20-2006 11:05 PM

Loopy can finally get new pictures.

Azriel 06-20-2006 11:07 PM

One more point before I go. Definitely agree with you loopy about Taz. He isn't much of a "color" guy anyway. He's too agreeable with Joey. isn't the purpose of the color guy is that he's supposed to oppose the PBP guy? It's great seeing Taz there and all, but they need someone else there.

crash99 06-20-2006 11:08 PM

Definetley a much better show than last week, but I wouldn't call it good on it's own. As a lot of people are saying it still feels like just another WWE show. While the new ECW probably won't ever be or feel like the old ECW, it still doesn't mean it should be like every other WWE show. They need to stop with the Raw invasion, and let the show form its own identity on its own. Hopefully once Vengeance is over, it will stop, and the show can just be ECW. They have talent, and more talent debuting and coming in, and I just wish Paul Heyman would be give the confidence to run the show on it's own.

Anyway, much better than last week, and hopefully it will keep getting better.

Crimson 06-20-2006 11:10 PM

Well after the ppv...there won't be anymore RAW crossovers so we should get some better shows. We pretty much know RVD will lose the title so maybe on next week's show they will have some little tourny thing for a new championship.

I agree with loopy, I think Taz should get his ass back in shape and wrestle again and get in a different commentator.

And does anyone see any of the 3 ECW guys winning on the ppv? (Sabu,RVD, Angle). I can't see how the WWE would make all of them lose making ECW look weak, but then again it's hard to picture one of them winning seeing as Orton and Cena got the short end on the last ppv.

loopydate 06-20-2006 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Savior
Loopy can finally get new pictures.

I did a little Dance Of Joy when that promo hit. Maybe I'll actually be more motivated to promo more often.

And did anyone else mark out for the "Point & Click" at the end of the video? Or am I just a huge mark for myself?

What Would Kevin Do? 06-20-2006 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crimson

I agree with loopy, I think Taz should get his ass back in shape and wrestle again and get in a different commentator.


It's not a matter of being in shape. It's a matter of a him having a bad neck.

Innovator 06-20-2006 11:19 PM

I got a hardy chuckle out of it

The Icon of Elisim 06-20-2006 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Azriel
How come Heyman is never referenced as like the owner of ECW? He's always addresed as a spokesman. makes you wonder then, who is considered the owner of ECW?

They constantly talk about how ECW is owned by Vince

loopydate 06-20-2006 11:23 PM

Yeah. Taz is in no shape to wrestle. That's why his match with Lawler was so short.

But they could be using him as a badass manager. Bring back Team Taz, and fill it with OVW guys. The original TT was House of Hardcore graduates (like Doring and Chetti, iirc), so why not revamp it to introduce guys like Punk or Seth Skyfire?

Innovator 06-20-2006 11:35 PM

Punk don't need no team

Savio 06-20-2006 11:36 PM

I'm surprised they put the point/click in. Technically loopy you could take cap from tonights show I think I saw some non caption pics in that montage.

Crimson 06-20-2006 11:40 PM

Oh i forgot about his neck. Well he'll be commentating for a while then. He should just gradually turn to a heelish commentator.

Schoenauer 06-20-2006 11:51 PM

This show is slowly improving, but it should be better once this whole ECW vs. WWE stuff ends.

NeanderCarl 06-21-2006 12:17 AM

Has C.W. Anderson even been seen on camera yet? Where is this guy??

loopydate 06-21-2006 01:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Savior
I'm surprised they put the point/click in. Technically loopy you could take cap from tonights show I think I saw some non caption pics in that montage.

I was thinking the same thing, actually. There may only be a couple, but any is better than none.

Corkscrewed 06-21-2006 02:00 AM

lol, only 2 pages. I guess lots of people just gave up last week, but this week's show was definitely better. Not old ECW (prolly never will be), but at least it sets a lot of things up.

Batsu 06-21-2006 12:48 PM

This was a much better show this week. Less talking, more action; that was a definite improvement.

I had no idea Tony Mamaluke kicked that much ass. And "OMG SABU USED GRAPPLING HOLDS!!!!!1"

So Trinity is still "Trinity".

Finally, a point to "Kelly". Wonder who that was who carried her off TV.

Big Show vs. Dreamer = Meh. But... in a way that kind of reminded me of how Dreamer would take ass kickings, and get up, wanting more. It seemed like they're going that route with this, though...

LOVING the "Sandman shits on 'WWE'-style gimmicks" thing they have going. I almost expected to see Sandman showing up to cane that alien that was on RAW.

John Cena. In a way, the recent turn of his character is becoming interesting. Though, when his matches actually start, they suck. It's kind of like watching buildups to Hogan matches. In any case, after this next PPV, unless Cena goes to ECW, I don't want to see him on that show much more.

Edge...if anyone reminds me of an "ECW" heel, it's Edge.

Test in ECW? Well, let's see if he gets to be the "asswipe" role that Edge has usurped in his absence.

RVD's gonna drop that WWE belt to Edge, it's pretty certain. Probably through a run-in of some sort. Considering how RVD is mostly billed as ECW World Champion and all of that, and RVD's win is continually trashed on RAW.


Problems:

They still need to stop taping this at "WWE" crowds. The crowd sucked ass, even though there were visibly a lot of ECW fans in the audience.

Tazz as color commentator still seems in SmackDown mode. Which may not be good for the show. Joey Styles is gold though. His line of "steaming, stinking pile of sports-entertainment" was classic.

Innovator 06-21-2006 01:01 PM

The guy who carried Kelly off was Deep South guy Mike Knox

Champion of Europa 06-21-2006 03:43 PM

RVD's match vs. Edge at Vengeance is for the WWE Title. They never said the ECW title was on the line. No matter what goes down on Sunday, RVD is still ECW champ.

Lara Emily 06-22-2006 03:57 AM

I like what they did production wise to make the SD arena look smaller and more ECWlike it's not perfect and doesn't beat actual smaller venues but still its better than what I had feared.

I love what they are doing with the Sandman (his new music isn't even all that bad). Never been a big fan of his in ring work but he has that perfect ECW intensity so having him come in do his thing kill some comic jobber, is highly entertaining. He also honestly looks like he's in the best shape of his life.

Mr. Nerfect 06-22-2006 05:11 AM

I think Test would have been better on SmackDown! as a member of Booker's nice little stable of heels (Booker T, Sharmell, Finlay, William Regal & Test), but if Paul Heyman wants him.

I think ECW would be much better with a second hour. I know a lot of people argue that RAW has produced some of its best quality stuff with only one hour, but in modern times, one hour shows feel too condensed.

They don't get enough time to develop angles. The stupid stuff seems even stupider because there is only a smaller batch of content around it. Mike Knox didn't even get to cut a promo. A promo by the guy would have been fantastic, just to let us know who he is and why he's there. It has to be dragged out with the one week thing. It's not compelling enough to bring us back for a second week by itself, so you might as well get it as over as possible in one go.

A lot of the ECW guys are yet to debut, are yet to get sufficient air-time, or are yet to get anything really going for them at all. Justin Credible, Al Snow, Stevie Richards, Balls Mahoney, Little Guido and C.W. Anderson have done nothing of note. If they can't put everything on TV, they should tape extra matches to air on ECW.com.

ECW feels so minute at the moment.


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