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Chavo Classic 12-21-2007 08:43 AM

Would it bother you if you went round to Stone Cold's house, and he didn't have any beer in the fridge and offered you some tea instead? Would you cry hypocrisy because hey, I though you were a tough SOB who drank beer everyday and kicked ass? Why did you lie to me? What about your gimmick?

Not that I'm defending Punk. If he does turn out to shoot up or crack open a can, then he deserves a beating. But I don't think he is that person, judging by the massive ink across his middle and the various shoot-interviews where he maintains his lifestyle. But we can't prove a dam thing, so it's pointless.

Mr. Nerfect 12-21-2007 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave Youell (Post 1974531)
That was def pepsi he was drinking then, they even replayed him saluting the crowd the following week for the recap

He’d be an absolute moron to preach the straight edge lifestyle then drink beer on live tv

Exactly. I mean, I don't pretend to know the guy, but I think a lot of claim that he's a violator of his own beliefs is unwarranted, stupid and often unlikely.

Corkscrewed 12-21-2007 12:04 PM

skipped the replies, but I say no, because otherwise, CM Punk would actually be getting pushed (he's gotten the most lackluster "push" of any "top champ" I've seen in a while, because it's not going in either direction).

Kane Knight 12-21-2007 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Alienoid06 (Post 1974652)
Exactly. I mean, I don't pretend to know the guy, but I think a lot of claim that he's a violator of his own beliefs is unwarranted, stupid and often unlikely.

I dunno. If I saw no one else say it, I think I'd still believe Rob Harvey. Since he's said it, I just don't find it unlikely. I'm not saying it's impossible, but when I look for some reason Rob might be making it up, I really can't think of one, and he hasn't really given us a lot of reason to think he's a liar. Any, really.

Kane Knight 12-21-2007 01:16 PM

And as a side note, since the "Beer Bash" bit from Raw was brought up, I paid attention to that primarily because of the "report" which included "and even if he was drinking a Miller Lite, does that really count?"

Because I thought that and some of the other notions brought up in said thread were kinda funny.

No, we've seen screenshots. It was soda, which doesn't change the stupidity of asking if it counts if you drink a beer that's only 4% ABV instead of 8 or 9 % ABV. Oh, and the "But what could Punk do? He had no choice" argument is a kinda funny one, too. The guy could refuse medical care based on his beliefs, but not a beer if Austin tossed him one....:wtf:

Anyway, those remain funny, reality notwithstanding, because they were more or less hypotheticals when the controversy hit.

Stickman 12-21-2007 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Chavo (Post 1974543)
Would it bother you if you went round to Stone Cold's house, and he didn't have any beer in the fridge and offered you some tea instead? Would you cry hypocrisy because hey, I though you were a tough SOB who drank beer everyday and kicked ass? Why did you lie to me? What about your gimmick?

Not that I'm defending Punk. If he does turn out to shoot up or crack open a can, then he deserves a beating. But I don't think he is that person, judging by the massive ink across his middle and the various shoot-interviews where he maintains his lifestyle. But we can't prove a dam thing, so it's pointless.



Could you imagine going to Stone Cold's house and drinking a brew with him without him pouring it all down his face and shirt?

Chavo Classic 12-21-2007 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Stickman (Post 1974822)
Could you imagine going to Stone Cold's house and drinking a brew with him without him pouring it all down his face and shirt?

He'd be a pretty lousy host, is what he'd be!

Chavo Classic 12-21-2007 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Kane Knight (Post 1974754)
Oh, and the "But what could Punk do? He had no choice" argument is a kinda funny one, too. The guy could refuse medical care based on his beliefs, but not a beer if Austin tossed him one....:wtf:

I think some of the fanboys meant something along the lines of Punk loves this business so much, would he risk making Stone Cold look stupid by turning down a Beer. As another face, it's his obligation to go along with the celebrations. Would he sacrafice his own personal beliefs to avoid soiling a great wrestling moment...

Which got me thinking... how do you think Punk felt towards the angle when Raven tied him up and poured Beer on him? He must have at least got a mouthful of the stuff, and his skin might have absorbed some.

Do you think he was reluctant? Was it his idea?

Kane Knight 12-21-2007 03:44 PM

Right now, I'm mostly wondering how much beer your skin absorbed...:wtf:

Chavo Classic 12-21-2007 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Kane Knight (Post 1974918)
Right now, I'm mostly wondering how much beer your skin absorbed...:wtf:

I wonder if you sat in a bath of beer, how long it'd take to get drunk?

Kane Knight 12-21-2007 04:37 PM

You'd die first.

Assuming your intent was to sit there until you got drunk.

The Lone Wolf 01-14-2008 06:55 PM

i think that it is more related to him being the most over person in the WWE but thats just me.

Kane Knight 01-14-2008 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by The Lone Wolf (Post 2001342)
i think that it is more related to him being the most over person in the WWE but thats just me.

Which explains why Cena was pushed and Christian was depushed, and so on.


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