TPWW Forums - Triple H? That's not cool...

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Originally Posted by Noid (Post 2186822)

But what Carlito did took balls. I agree with what he says about Triple H. It's a nice little rebut from Triple H's statements about "some people" not working hard enough.

If you worked at a job where no matter how hard you worked, you would never get to the top would you have any real interest in busting your ass? Is it professional? No. Its it the way most of America thinks? Yeah.

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Originally Posted by DarthTedious (Post 2187208)

There is nobody, and has been nobody, that HHH cannot outwork.

When he wants to.

That's a pretty firm caveat there. I seriously doubt that there is anybody that HHH couldn't outwork if he put his mind to it. It's part of HHH's business smarts that he doesn't always give a 100% effort if his opponent isn't worth it. People point to 2003 as proof of his lack of workrate... but look at his opponents. Scott Steiner. There's a man who doesn't deserve a CHANCE to work, and it's nothing short of a waste of time to expend effort making someone like that look good. Booker T? It's not like the man is ever going to be more over than he was. His program with Nash was Kliq playtime. You don't work your hardest at playtime. Goldberg? Jesus Christ, the man had been put over by the Rock AND Chris Jericho earlier in the year, and went on to prove that without his little streak security blanket, the man is nothing.

Look at '99-'00. Your biggest solid workers at the time were HHH and Foley for fuck's sake. Don't whine to me about the Rock either. The Rock's natural charisma far overshines the fact the he was one of the lesser main event workers of the Attitude Era, definitely falling behind Austin, Foley, Taker, and HHH. Granted, a mediocre Rock is still in the top 10% of workers, but HHH and Foley could work circles around him today, let alone 8-10 years ago.

Bottom line: HHH can work with crap and make it look like gold, however, HHH has the sense to realize that maybe you don't always want to make crap look like gold.

That logic is the most retarded thing I've heard all day.

Let me highlight this so it stands out:
That logic is exactly why the company is in the shithole it is.

When you have a guy who decides not to make others look good and has the ability to get away with it, its insanely determental to the company. Am I saying that Booker T, Steiner, Goldberg, RVD, etc were going to be mega stars? No. But why does everyone have to be? Its the idioic fallacy of the IWC, if you're not a megastar, you're garbage. Just like in any other workplace you have 'cowboys' and 'indians' Booker and Goldberg could have absolutely been solid main eventers, not mega draws, but solid main eventers. Steiner fucked himself, but the influence of HHH has cut down a lot of guys who could have been into nothing. Dispute that? Well explain how mid carders on that are on Raw go to SD and become main event guys. I don't mean shit like Khali either. See Booker, Eddie, etc.

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Originally Posted by Kane Knight (Post 2187378)

Hell, if Foley had taken the "Not everyone deserves to be made to look good" approach, none of these poor sods would be fapping to Trips, anyway.

Glad someone acknowledged the man who put Trips on the map as a main eventer

I still struggle to figure out how some of you can say how great a worker he is, when meanwhile he was never the best of his era. Talk all you want about title reigns and being in the ME and star quality matches, but really he's never been the best wrestler of his era, he's been known for cutting down guys that could have been greater stars and hasn't had a GREAT (note the word) feud with ANYONE in quite awhile.