For the UK fights, just avoid said topic

If anything spoilerish is talked about before the air date, then lay the hammer

Why should North American fans not be able to come discuss the PPV as it is airing for us?? I mean, the whole reason it would be spoiled is because UK fans would have watched it and discussed it while it was happening?? Why should yank fans not have the same privilege??

That's not fair at all..

I know that in the wrestling forum no regards are paid to the UK posters when it comes to PPVs/shows whatever. Likewise if they get a show first, it's free game. Once it's aired it's hardly a spoiler. You'll notice the UK'ers don't go into the discussion threads until after they've had a chance to see the show.

I don't see why MMA should be treated differently...

my 2¢

That's kinda fucked up that no one cares about the UK fans.. A simple second thread would eliminate all that, and they could discuss shows as they were happening..

Your whole "Once it's aired it's hardly a spoiler" part is bullshit.. The last fight night was held in the UK.. I came to the MMA thread to discuss the fights as they were being shown in the US.. The mainevent was spoiled for me as the opening music was coming out of my tv (gay gladiator FTW).. It's not my problem what they do in the wrestling forum.. What we do here, is.. I completely agree that if you don't want to be spoiled, you should stay away from certain sites.. But the thing is, there are going to be dozens of different discussions going on here at any given time.. Hundreds if you count the entire board.. I watched the Lesnar/Couture fight like midnight saturday night, but had I come to TPWW first, to say, check on the threads I had posted that day and seen "BROCK FUCT RANDY UP" from the mainpage, I would've been pissed..

There will be a discussion thread for certain PPV's, then a spoilers thread, the day of..

When the next UK UFC show happens, I'll prolly make a UK spoilers thread, then a US spoilers thread, and merge them after the show has been aired in the US..

Also, with prowrestling, you are talking about DAYS before shows that already aired in the US, air in the UK.. Here we are talking about hours..

Results should never be placed in titles. Other than that whatever. Once it's aired it's free game for those who have seen it. By your train of thought, when does a fight become free game? If I was waiting until the replay to catch the show and someone made a thread about "so and so won" would this be an issue because I haven't been able to see it yet?

Doubtful.

Thats a pretty good point I suppose.Still bet you don't my ass in this forum until I've seen the show I've come here to discuss.

Dest is right. As someone from England, I can tell you as long as I have been posting here, I have been having to deal with everything I am yet to see get talked about. Did you know we used to get Raw on a Friday? There is only ever 24 hours max difference in air times either way with UFC, so I wouldn't worry too much about this.

Oh, and you can differenciate between the UFC 92 discussion thread and the ppv thread, as the discussion thread shouldn't be stickied. Just stcky the live shit.

We get everything at exactly the same time as you when it is in the states, now BTW. Thats Wrestling and MMA. Not TUF though. But that's obvious

That's my whole point though.. After it has aired, both in the UK and North America, then it's fair game.. They still advertise the events as LIVE weather they are here or the UK.. It's just those few hours of overlapped that's gonna be the problem..

Will do..

Also this bothers me. I think you should run this forum to the "standerd" set all over the rest of the forum. You're not the MMA police. the only thing you should be doing is making sure TPWW's MMA forum reflects what all the other forums do.

LOL @ us discussing TPWW politics.

If I had been mod in the wrestling forum, I would have had similar rules, though..

As we've mentioned, RAW used to come on 5 full days in the UK after it aired in the US.. Here we are talking about 5 hours.. Gonna be alot easier to regulate spoilers and whatnot..

Bottom line is, I like having a place to discuss MMA.. I also like discussing shows as they happen when the opportunity is there.. As do UK fans, it would seem.. I just don't see why we all can't do that, without ruining it for the other portion.. I think we have a pretty good idea of how this will work now, so I really don't understand all the protest..

Mostly because you're giving this new forum it's own set of rules. No other forum on TPWW is like this so in turn this one shouldn't be either. That's basically my gripe.

MY ARGUMENT: That aint the way we do things here.

But in Krispy's defence (Yeah, that's right :shifty:) MMA is not the same as Wrestling, nor is a casual discussion arena, where the poster has no real desires as to not wanting to read specific things that happened, since he won't be able to see them repeated. I don't think trying to come up with a way to try and help those who like to post on TPWW in their free time, not get exposed to a sports event that they are yet to see due to time differences a bad thing.

It takes me 20 seconds to post on here

Sometimes, even less....

And it takes 3 hours to watch a UFC PPV.

Des, I really don't give a fuck.. I am trying to make it fair for everyone.. As far as you are concerned there should be no rules about spoilers just because there aren't in the wrestling forum?? WTF are the spoiler tags for then??

Still, I really don't see how you (and Rob) seem to have a problem with a few rules to make everyones stay here alittle better.. Should I instead, just say that all posts containing spoilers should have to use spoiler tags??

That would be like 10000000x more complicated than just saying that spoilers go into threads marked as such..

I just really don't see why you should or would have a problem with this at all and I'm really tired of trying to figure it out..

In a way I kind of get what Rob is saying. With the Brock fight, right after Brock won (like probably within 5 minutes) ESPN had "Breaking News: Brock Lesnar defeats Randy Couture for the Title" flashing across the bottom of the screen on the Sports Center show that night.

That's the point he is making. It's a sport, so it's going to be talked about right after it finishes.

I don't really care anymore tbh. Do whatever makes you feel good.

Yes, I would distance myself away from things like that, had I not seen the fight.. The same way I would distance myself from a THREAD MARKED SPOILER..

I completely see what you are saying but look at it this way, if I Tivo'd the Saints game I wouldn't go to ESPN.com before I watched it, by anymeans.. But, I do like to chat about MMA while it is coming on my TV.. It's almost like now, do to the situation with UFC doing shows in the UK, and the timeframe which this happens, y'all want the UK fans to be able to watch it "LIVE" and chat about it here, while North American fans aren't supposed to do the same, for the exact same show, cause they shouldn't be online before they watched it anyway..

:wtf:

UK fans get to watch it LIVE and discuss it on here, while yank fans are stupid for wanting to do the same thing because the UK fans already watched it a discussed it online??

I really don't see how that's fair..

MMA RANT THREAD

But you can't distance yourself from a MMA forum for 3 hours?

Bollocks to it. I'm doing what I want. And I ain't doing it to be a dick. I already know the TUF finals and I could easy post them if I wanted to be a cock about it. Sporting events happen and then are instantly talked about. You want to watch it on delay then go out of your way to avoid having the show ruined for you. If you can't do that then I have to sympathy for you or anyone else.

I don't go by nazi rules. You don't like what I'm saying then get me banned. I'm at the end of my wits with this site anyway.

24 hour ban. Get ready to ban me for good then.

And now I will be doing this for my own amusement. I might keep this forum spoiler free. And maybe I'll spam the entire board with spoilers.

Why don't you distance yourself from MMA for 6 hours then??

You know why, cause you want to discuss the event as it is coming on your tv.. How hard is it to understand that we might want the same fucking thing??

You are not only coming across and hypocritaland selfish, but now spiteful..

You guys are seriously ridiculous with this shit..

Bottom line, just keep spoilers in threads mark as such or mark them yourselves using the spoiler tags..

End of...

End of? So what if we decide we won't stick to the nazi rules?


And you aren't coming up like a baby at all really are you? I shouldn't discuss something live just incase it might spoil something for someone who is stupid enough to come on an MMA forum instead of keeping away from it for 2 hours? Every other MMA forum doesn't go by the spoiler rule so what makes this one so special?

Everyone I post at does..

You want to go by the standard TPWW rule for spoilers here?? Then mark every spoiler until the day following a PPV.. Not only would that be a bigger pain in the ass than what I am asking, but it would also make the discussion threads harder to read and cluttered..

I really don't think you are understanding what I originally said.. Just post all spoilers in the marked discussion thread until an event has been shown in the UK and the US.. How is that hard for you?? How is allowing posters to openly post spoilers without having to use the spoiler tags a "Nazi rule"?? It's actually asking less than the rest of the forum does.. It is also following your line of thinking in that, don't go into places where things can be spoiled for you, I'm just saying we should mark said places..

Also, call my a baby all you want to, but you are the one throwing a f'n temper tantrum over a simple request..

I still don't get what your gripe is here..

Also, if you purposefully spoil an event by posting spoilers in non spoiler threads, there will be punishment..

Not only would that be petty of you, but quite the asshole thing to do.. Specially, when all I want to do is come on and discuss an event while it is on tv.. The same thing you want to do that could potentially "spoil" the same event for me..

We want the right to discuss events while they are happening just as much as y'all do.. We should not be refused that right just because you want to be an asshole.. I'm looking for a way where everyone can have fun and discuss MMA events without finding out the outcome before it airs..

Really? Start buttering up the arab now then. My last day here will be the very next UK show that airs on Spike. I think the next two maybe on PPV. I'll probably just spoil TUF out of spite before then.

I'll be starting my own MMA board very soon. Anyone who choses not to be a crybaby bitch is more than welcome. I'm sure CyNick will be one of the first to sign up since he got sick of the same shit I have on this entire forum and he ain't British.

wow

When did you turn into an asshole??

I have never been to an MMA forum that didn't mark specific threads for spoilers and whatnot..

Sorry I asked that you not ruin 3 shows a year for the majority of us..

I have to know....

What is the shit you deal with Rob?

I've tried to PM Rob Harvey about this to figure out a neutral ground but I don't think he wants any part of it.. I've also asked him to maybe give his suggestions as to how this forum should be run but again, he merely says that he, and you Fabien (don't really know why he brought you into it), will spoil fights all you want and there's nothing I can do about it..

I have no idea what is going on here..

lol

as long as it's not as shitty as sherdog I'll be happy.

Well, you did piss me off a few weeks ago Krisp, so I posted the UFC results intentionally so you would see them, since I saw you were online. Just for kicks really.

Hence, my inclusion in that, I guess.